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I didn't want to reply with any personal comments, because this thread is filled with judgement. Although, it seems as if the OP doesn't really understand what he's gotten himself into.

OP is now partly responsible and involved in destroying a matrimonial bond between a man and woman; A bond where vows were exchanged.

I don't believe in a lot of things, but I do believe in Karma. What you did can't be changed or taken back, OP. Just move on from this and don't get too into it.
Sounds like a whole lotta hogwash. As explained by OP those vows and bond were meaningless to one of the ppl doing it. The part OP plays is arbitrary at best, son is an interchangeable part.

















Was the feeling mutual...did she love you? i mean she did mess with you until a week before getting married...

I truly believe she did, we've spoke since the marriage and follow each other on social media and she and her husband have two sons, we haven't seen each other side 2008 and that's probably for the best
You should probably show up one day, see if she's still down to smash and then get caught tearing it apart in the play room.
Yessir.

A lot of people are in here quoting morals and it'll come back to haunt you and whatever else. I've read the nt confessions thread, theres a bunch of pots calling the kettle black in here.

OP all you need to do is look at yourself in the mirror, list out the possible consequences and make sure you wanna do this. If yes then do it. Obviously if she's stepping out on her husband and child then she'll easily step out on you, so don't throw on the cape. Hit it once and be done with it. You give her your phone number and thats it, if yall smang take her to a hotel NOT your place. After you hit it once then let her know your uncomfortable and yadda yadda yadda and it's best if we don't see each other anymore. Since she's married you she be cautious and don't make it a regular thing because the fallout from the husband could be bad.

If she tries to get clingy and hit you up and wants more then change gyms and since she'll only have your phone number then when she texts you, send her this message:

"Sprint Error Automated Message #2317390 This Sprint user has blocked your number. If this is a mistake, please call 1-800-Sprint"

Just change "Sprint" to whatever carrier you have, the girl thinks you blocked her and you'll never see her again. Like I said before, if she gets caught up it's her fault. Her family will be better off technically if she does but thats not your role. What's better a family that is divorced but happy or a marriage full of secrets and lies?

Lol at the text. Genuinely made me smile.

She didn't give me her phone number, all I've got is her email, and she has mine. It's a shopping email.


I'm not going to get caught up, this is going to be a month long thing max. I'm transferring out to another uni next semester, so it will be impossible to meet her again unless I'm in town. She doesn't know where I live. I'm talking to other women as well, but damn she just knows how to treat a man, which threw me off, it's a complete different ball game compared to college girls.


Also I don't think I'll get beat down or anything like that, I'm not about that life I'll take the L and keep it moving. It does worry me though, not going to lie. I can handle myself but if the guy uses a weapon I probably will be in deep water.






As for the play by play, well she wanted to meet me Saturday but I didn't go. Monday she sort of ignored me, I think she was mad I didn't come in on Saturday. So I just did my routine and then left. Tuesday/today came she was different, she immediately made a B line to where I was and asked why I left without saying bye. I asked what are you doing after, made some small talk and then I said I'll see you outside, she smiled. Probably an hour passes by and she leaves. I leave bout the same time. She's waiting for me on the 2nd floor in her car.

And then it happened, I'm not going into explicit details, but the BJ was amazing.


She's white if someone asked, I think I recall seeing someone ask at least.

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No pics and son ended up ignoring real ___ advice anyway :smh:

If it wasn't for Brolic and a few others dropping wisdom, this would be a complete waste of a thread :lol:
 
Lol at the text. Genuinely made me smile.

She didn't give me her phone number, all I've got is her email, and she has mine. It's a shopping email.


I'm not going to get caught up, this is going to be a month long thing max. I'm transferring out to another uni next semester, so it will be impossible to meet her again unless I'm in town. She doesn't know where I live. I'm talking to other women as well, but damn she just knows how to treat a man, which threw me off, it's a complete different ball game compared to college girls.


Also I don't think I'll get beat down or anything like that, I'm not about that life I'll take the L and keep it moving. It does worry me though, not going to lie. I can handle myself but if the guy uses a weapon I probably will be in deep water.






As for the play by play, well she wanted to meet me Saturday but I didn't go. Monday she sort of ignored me, I think she was mad I didn't come in on Saturday. So I just did my routine and then left. Tuesday/today came she was different, she immediately made a B line to where I was and asked why I left without saying bye. I asked what are you doing after, made some small talk and then I said I'll see you outside, she smiled. Probably an hour passes by and she leaves. I leave bout the same time. She's waiting for me on the 2nd floor in her car.

And then it happened, I'm not going into explicit details, but the BJ was amazing.


She's white if someone asked, I think I recall seeing someone ask at least.



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Coming from a dude who used to live that scumbag life and knocked down quite a few married women or women in relationships, it's a move that you don't want to make. I never got caught, never knocked one up and back then didn't give a damn, but I look at how warped my mentality was back then and feel like I shaved years off of my life being reckless. I feel like for a while my spirit suffered too, if that makes sense. I was selfish and made poor decisions because I felt untouchable.

I'm not on that holier than thou soapbox. You're going to do what you want to do anyway. But if you want some real advice from someone who did it, don't. My current gf asked me a question a while back when we were just friends that is still stuck in my head. "Do you feel it was worth sharing your soul with all of those women that gave you nothing in return?" It's a real question. I never tricked, but I got used. They had what they wanted at home: a family, kids, a seemingly stable life and all I was to them was D. A work horse. At the end the woman gets to go home and fake the funk, while kissing her man with the same mouth she slurped you up with and you go home lonely, thinking you came up. Actually she came up and you helped her be the type of woman you would NEVER want to have in your home.

When you get older you don't always get wiser. I see dudes way older than me still being "players" and looking dusty and desperate as hell. But if you're lucky, one day you take a hard look in the mirror and see how stupid you were and make some changes. Hopefully you won't waste too much of your time before you get there OP. Use that energy on yourself and let a quality woman get caught up in your gravitational pull instead of chasing the same sluts that are always gonna be available to any man with decent convo, looks and a stroke.

Great post :nthat:
 
Bruh I've been here.... Hell I actually did and super regretted it down the line. My chick was separated with 2 kids at like 27. I actually started falling for shorty and it was all bad.

Trust me man STAY AWAY..... It took me down a pretty dark road I would never do it again.
 
Adults like sex. It's not my fault I don't subscribe to an archaic concept such as monogamy.

Married women like to flirt. Some of them like to have sex with dudes (plural). Do you know how horny 30-40 year old women get? It's unfair to even question your carnal thoughts.

She explained her situation and asked if you wanted to proceed. She put the ball in your court.

It's just teh sex, bro. Take it when you can get it. Just make sure there is an understanding that the relationship is nothing more.
 
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what 21 yr old doesnt want to bang a hot milf from the gym?

at my age and mind now im telling you no

if i look at it from the 21 yr old self, diff story

im just bein honest

you got diff opinions in this thread life is about lessons, you make your own choices in life
 
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what 21 yr old doesnt want to bang a hot milf from the gym?

at my age and mind now im telling you no

if i look at it from the 21 yr old self, diff story

im just bein honest

you got diff opinions in this thread life is about lessons, you make your own choices in life

I'm with you. I'm saying no, I wouldn't do it. But at the same time i'm advocating being a 21 yr old and doing 21 yr old things, learning from your own choices and experiences, not ours.
 
Sorry to say but I got a BJ from her in backseat of her car.

I'm weak willed sorry, I regretted it right after, she kept saying how she never does this and that she liked me the day she saw me renew my gym subscription.




There's the update.

it seems like you've slightly cracked open that box of pandora...its up to you to close it or fully open it up,,,,


Honestly this would be enough to drive me over the edge. Especially since none of the chicks i've ever taken seriously enough to be wifey have ever wopped me off that quickly. To find out she gave it up to some young musty ***** that quick. Man. That would be on her though, maybe him depending on how infuriated i'd be.
 
Adults like sex. It's not my fault I don't subscribe to an archaic concept such as monogamy.

Married women like to flirt. Some of them like to have sex with dudes (plural). Do you know how horny 30-40 year old women get? It's unfair to even question your carnal thoughts.

She explained her situation and asked if you wanted to proceed. She put the ball in your court.

It's just teh sex, bro. Take it when you can get it. Just make sure there is an understanding that the relationship is nothing more.

To quote the wise Latarian Milton. Its fun to do bad things.
 
i have a feeling that the dudes that are telling op to go along with it either grew up fatherless or had a similar thing happen to them.

the thing is you DO know better op, you're just weak
Your feelings are incorrect. Then again I can't be 100% certain about the latter so as far as I know if it did I'd be ignorant to that fact so it couldn't sway my current opinion.
A blinkin said it best...

You may not get murked... You may not get caught up...

But think about your view on women moving forward...

But even if he didn't do anything with her, his view on women would already be ruined no?

I'm almost in the exact same situation as the OP right now, except she isn't married :lol:


So when you do finally settle down and fall in love, ready to start a family. How would you feel that your Wife/Mother of your kids just domed up a 21 year old?
I'd feel she's a treacherous *****. If a 21 year old got her to do that then **** why would I want to be around a woman of such low caliber? Thinking so lowly of me? No trust. No loyalty.

Yall dudes need to start approaching life much more pragmatically instead of these Jerry Springer scenarios. Why is it that on Cheaters the cheater gets checked but y'all dudes living that husband gonna hunt you down nonsense? If she cheating on you the woman aint worth you risking your freedom.
Coming from a dude who used to live that scumbag life and knocked down quite a few married women or women in relationships, it's a move that you don't want to make. I never got caught, never knocked one up and back then didn't give a damn, but I look at how warped my mentality was back then and feel like I shaved years off of my life being reckless. I feel like for a while my spirit suffered too, if that makes sense. I was selfish and made poor decisions because I felt untouchable.

I'm not on that holier than thou soapbox. You're going to do what you want to do anyway. But if you want some real advice from someone who did it, don't. My current gf asked me a question a while back when we were just friends that is still stuck in my head. "Do you feel it was worth sharing your soul with all of those women that gave you nothing in return?" It's a real question. I never tricked, but I got used. They had what they wanted at home: a family, kids, a seemingly stable life and all I was to them was D. A work horse. At the end the woman gets to go home and fake the funk, while kissing her man with the same mouth she slurped you up with and you go home lonely, thinking you came up. Actually she came up and you helped her be the type of woman you would NEVER want to have in your home.

When you get older you don't always get wiser. I see dudes way older than me still being "players" and looking dusty and desperate as hell. But if you're lucky, one day you take a hard look in the mirror and see how stupid you were and make some changes. Hopefully you won't waste too much of your time before you get there OP. Use that energy on yourself and let a quality woman get caught up in your gravitational pull instead of chasing the same sluts that are always gonna be available to any man with decent convo, looks and a stroke.
I mean, ignoring the issue of a soul existing, I guess it would suck for you if you got nothing in return for messing with these chicks. I, however, see sex as a mutual transaction of intimacy. Something was gained, something was shared imo.

Your reaction seems a bit grass is greener on the other side. That's why I won't simply say if you can't be used you're useless. I'm sure some of those women were thinking after the fact they're stuck with these kids and bum *** bf/husband while all she was to you was some P that was an easy lay.

If you know yourself and are willing to do for you there wouldn't be so much regret when you do these things. Fam, just cuz you're alone don't mean you lonely. If you out there seeking sex with random women no matter their situation looking for companionship when beforehand you know it's fleeting and temporary then you'd need to seek some therapy to work out those issues. That's bigger than just getting a nut with a fine chick that's married.
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If was and still is the hardest day in my life. I truly loved that girl, still do till this day, ive done wrong in this life but I learned from that situation
Did you think of speaking up when the "does anybody object to this union part" happened? Did she look at you when it was asked? :lol:
 
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Coming from a dude who used to live that scumbag life and knocked down quite a few married women or women in relationships, it's a move that you don't want to make. I never got caught, never knocked one up and back then didn't give a damn, but I look at how warped my mentality was back then and feel like I shaved years off of my life being reckless. I feel like for a while my spirit suffered too, if that makes sense. I was selfish and made poor decisions because I felt untouchable.

I'm not on that holier than thou soapbox. You're going to do what you want to do anyway. But if you want some real advice from someone who did it, don't. My current gf asked me a question a while back when we were just friends that is still stuck in my head. "Do you feel it was worth sharing your soul with all of those women that gave you nothing in return?" It's a real question. I never tricked, but I got used. They had what they wanted at home: a family, kids, a seemingly stable life and all I was to them was D. A work horse. At the end the woman gets to go home and fake the funk, while kissing her man with the same mouth she slurped you up with and you go home lonely, thinking you came up. Actually she came up and you helped her be the type of woman you would NEVER want to have in your home.

When you get older you don't always get wiser. I see dudes way older than me still being "players" and looking dusty and desperate as hell. But if you're lucky, one day you take a hard look in the mirror and see how stupid you were and make some changes. Hopefully you won't waste too much of your time before you get there OP. Use that energy on yourself and let a quality woman get caught up in your gravitational pull instead of chasing the same sluts that are always gonna be available to any man with decent convo, looks and a stroke.

Top 10 best replies I've ever read on this forum. :pimp:

I never understood the satisfaction of being single and knocking down as many chicks as possible as if it was some sort of competition...like i see how it can be fun for a bit, but for the long run?...approaching your 30's and beyond that?....what's the gratification in that?...time ticks away, you get older and unless you are very well off financially in your later years, chances are you'll end up alone, or just simply won't know how to commit after a lifetime of never committing to anyone.

You getting P =/= winning...but that's the way a lot of dudes view life...as this empty selfish adventure where is all me, me, me, me....but don't see the irony that YES you are being used to provide a service, no different than that of an escort, you provide no emotional attachment, just a piece of meat a chick can ride on and get a nut off and then go on her way to what she really cherishes....the husband is getting used, probably in a much worst way, only difference is he doesn't know he's losing, but you do and somehow take pride in it.

Tell me, what's passed the luxury of that first smash?...that initial "omg is new P feeling!!"
 
Top 10 best replies I've ever read on this forum. :pimp:

I never understood the satisfaction of being single and knocking down as many chicks as possible as if it was some sort of competition...like i see how it can be fun for a bit, but for the long run?...approaching your 30's and beyond that?....what's the gratification in that?...time ticks away, you get older and unless you are very well off financially in your later years, chances are you'll end up alone, or just simply won't know how to commit after a lifetime of never committing to anyone.

You getting P =/= winning...but that's the way a lot of dudes view life...as this empty selfish adventure where is all me, me, me, me....but don't see the irony that YES you are being used to provide a service, no different than that of an escort, you provide no emotional attachment, just a piece of meat a chick can ride on and get a nut off and then go on her way to what she really cherishes....the husband is getting used, probably in a much worst way, only difference is he doesn't know he's losing, but you do and somehow take pride in it.

Tell me, what's passed the luxury of that first smash?...that initial "omg is new P feeling!!"
meeting different people...

I think people are all the way one way or the other...

You're either solely committed to one woman...

Or you holla'n at chicks in the club... Knock them down... Then never call agaian...

I think there's a common middle ground that most married AND single people fail to see...

You can have jump offs... But keeping a couple down chicks that you can spend time with, talk to, and are willing to share with.... THAT'S The middle ground people fail to realize...

May not last more than a few years... May last many years... But in the end, I think married people skew the view of single, and single skew the view of relationships...

I say find you a couple or few chicks that are cool, you like spending time with, and willing to open up to...

I call them "corner chicks"... Not quite fully committed... But above JO status.
 
Who says you can't meet people and socialiE passed being married or committed, you don't have to engage in some sort of physical act with every woman you meet and you shouldn't become an antisocial person just because you are married/committed.
 
I really liked Brolic Scholar's post. But, I've been the dude girls cheat on their BFs with and honestly have never felt bad about it for one reason, which is, the relationships were never respectable in the first place.

IMO the problem is that people settle down and get married before they are ready. Or, on a lesser scale, jump into relationships too soon.

Perfect example, my roommate just "made it official" with a chick he's only hung out with like 5 times. They haven't even known each other for a month. This is two 26 year olds. I can't even respect this relationship. What is it based off of?

Any girl I'm committing to being in a relationship with they've been chillin with me for a good 3-6 months already and if I ask them to be in a relationship it's because I only want to be with them. I tell them upfront that we are nothing. Guess what? The good ones stick around and do everything for you and will be loyal to you because they want you. They don't just want a relationship. If they stick around for 3-6 months without a title and enjoy being with you. They really like you and are in it to be with you. Not be in a relationship.

A lot of dudes don't even know who they are dating or married to. It's scary. That's the real problem.
 
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Man... I'm talking about CONNECTING...

I'm sorry... But I don't want my wife CONNECTING with another man...

You talking just yambs... I'm saying if you are in touch with somebody emotionally too.

Again... You think I'm saying, as a single man, "marriage is too extemee... You gotta be anti social"

Not saying that kinfoe...

I'm saying... There's a mode ground between smashing new broad every week and being in a super committed marriage/relationship...

People seem to not get that...
 
If you banging as many randoms as you can just to rack up your #s I'd say something is wrong, borderline narcissistic or damn near sociopathic but if you banging a lot of women cuz you enjoy having sex with them that seems pretty natural. Can't be empty if you're actually having fun. Like how don't you guys enjoy life?

Pride aint even a factor.

Yall keep talking about this family the wife gets to go home to like that's the pinnacle of life. Maybe the other person doesn't want that. Maybe they want something different?

Being alone is not the worst thing in the world. I'll say it again; Alone =/= Lonely. I'd think a lot of yall would do well to be alone for a while cuz it seems yall got some skewed views on how other ppl live their lives and the quality of it and their happiness. I dunno maybe yall mothers coddles you too much when you cried in the crib, never let you ride it out and fall asleep.

Also I don't see anybody in this thread talking about banging randoms for the rest of their life. Who even brought that up? If you don't want to have sexual relations with a lot of women, fine, that's you but to judge other ppl for doing so when you don't even understand it seems awfully ignorant and condescending. Yall dudes don't check yourselves at all. You grow up one way, you think you're right, then you impose your views on others as if they're suppose to live up to that standard or you tried that other lifestyle failed at it or it wasn't for you and then you condemn it for the rest of your life when you find a different way that works for you. You present your views of relationships with other women in such a way as to say you're doing it right and they're doing it wrong. There's more than one form of immaturity.
 
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Man... I'm talking about CONNECTING...

I'm sorry... But I don't want my wife CONNECTING with another man...

You talking just yambs... I'm saying if you are in touch with somebody emotionally too.

Again... You think I'm saying, as a single man, "marriage is too extemee... You gotta be anti social"

Not saying that kinfoe...

I'm saying... There's a mode ground between smashing new broad every week and being in a super committed marriage/relationship...

People seem to not get that...

Connectin like what?...falling in love?...really really digging a girl and then not committing?....the point of that is?...and I'm talking about friendships when married....their are connections in friendships....I don't mind my wife making friends, male or female as long as we are open about it and trust each other...of course there are certain limitations if the friends happen to be the opposite sex, but that's a mutual understanding we both have...I'm not gonna have my wife getting a text from a male friend at odd hours or hitting the movies, that's what we have each other for....cool thing is my friends are hers and hers are mines....
 
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You're right about sex being an exchange of intimacy, but can you truly have intimacy with someone that has sworn her life and commitment to another man? Intimacy goes beyond nakedness and sex. Intimacy means sharing things that wouldn't be shared with just anyone. Intimacy is usually earned over time with trust. Ask yourself this Zik, if a woman is willing to break her commitment to someone for the quick thrill of casual sex and does so regularly, is it really intimacy? If a woman is giving the P out like handshakes and bubblegum then what's special about it? If the only qualifier for sex is attraction then I would argue that casual sex is not at all intimate.

As looking for companionship, when I wanted that, I found it. Therapy was not needed, just some soul searching and brutal honesty with myself. I definitely wasn't looking for that from married women or women in relationships. I was just in conquer mode, being reckless and selfish. While me and the woman were having our fun, I was taking a mother away from her family. What did that make me? Someone that should be congratulated? Nah, it made me a scumbag. I can't speak for you or anyone else Zik. If you feel comfortable with yourself after being that dude, then carry on, but eventually it I'll catch up to you in some way.
 
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Master Zik Master Zik

You're right about sex being an exchange of intimacy, but can you truly have intimacy with someone that has sworn her life and commitment to another man? Intimacy goes beyond nakedness and sex. Intimacy means sharing things that wouldn't be shared with just anyone. Intimacy is usually earned over time with trust. Ask yourself this Zik, if a woman is willing to break her commitment to someone for the quick thrill of casual sex and does so regularly, is it really intimacy? If a woman is giving the P out like handshakes and bubblegum then what's special about it? If the only qualifier for sex is attraction then I would argue casual sex is not at all intimate.

As looking for companionship, when I wanted that, I found it. Therapy was not needed, just some soul searching and brutal honesty with myself. I definitely wasn't looking for that from married women or women in relationships. I was just in conquer mode, being reckless and selfish. While me and the woman were having our fun, I was taking a mother away from her family. What did that make me? Someone that should be congratulated? Nah, it made me a scumbag. I can't speak for you or anyone else Zik. If you feel comfortable with yourself after being that dude, then carry on, but eventually it I'll catch up to you in some way.
Actually you can, it's called an affair. I'm sure you've seen it go down with friends or associates or at least on tv. Affairs aint just sex. You can be emotionally and physically invovled with a married woman. Word to @derryj3's story.

I'm not gonna make blanket statements or vast generalizations for these situational scenarios. Yes it is possible to have real intimacy with a women that's broken her commitment to her husband. Same way it's possible for you not to, this situation varies from married woman to married woman. We don't if she ever took that commitment seriously, we don't know how that marriage has changed over time with the average scenario as it usually plays out you only know what she tells you whether she gives up the info freely or yall comfortable enough to talk about it. It's not always a quick thrill. There's passion. Obviously OP's story is different and would lean more to it being some sort of jump off situation but that could develop in to something else.

This is what I'm saying as far as that question your friend asked you. You're choosing to see it one way. You didn't take those women from their families. You aint abduct any of those broads. She was there of her own free will. Yeah you played a part, you can take some blame but you were not some destructive force that came in and wrecked somebody else's marriage. I don't get how you can look back on events on your life and give yourself the blame. I know we can be our own worst critcis but c'mon son. You claim you were conquering and being selfish, well what was she doing? This dichotomy between men and women seems to be so one sided at times and filled with double standards. You took her away from her family? What dream world you living in? and why must this come down to being condemned or congratulated? You did what you did, did you get what you want? WEre you satisfied? Can't leave it at that? You say you weren't looking for companionship so I assumed you chose to be selfish, you liked it, you desired to do it. That's why I said earlier you gotta know who you are cuz I'm not seeing the need be disappointed in yourself. Own up to it. If your morals changed over time and you want to say you know better and you want to place some of your past deeds in the right or wrong category, cool but there's more than one way to perceive it.

Please miss me with that eventually things will catch up to you. THIS IS LIFE. If you subscribe to the concept of karma, fine, you know what you're getting in to, even more so if you adopted it later in life after getting a better understanding. This is life, it'll be filled with things you see as mistakes or errors or simply experiences you learn and build from. If you really feel some way about what you've done and the intent behind then I guess w/e is coming is inevitable. How you interpret them is how you live with it. No need to come at ppl like they'll have a bunch of regrets or there'll be worse off for what they did years ago. We all got problems.
 
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This thread getting deep now :lol: ...OP got sucked off and we all know he's gonna smash, was bound to happen soon as he kissed the broad and took it to the back seat
 
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