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Same. It was 2.70 during the super bowl for regular. Other than that it’s in the 2.50s.
luxury car brands losing marketshare to big 3 VOL. trucks
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far from it, more federal lands are being opened for development, and everything just got green lit off shore...
da US is da safety valve for OPEC as soon as there's a surge in pricing worldwide...
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I’m about to buy a truck (36 gallons) and 93 octane is around 3.30 in south Florida lol
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are hummers still the safest trucks even tho they stopped producing them?
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I think the boom in fracking is already done. Well, I know it is in North Dakota and west Texas. It’s still happening but it’s not like you’ll go out there with no experience and bring home 200k in 6 months anymore.
Idk man, I go to frac sand mines all the time. I can’t really say I’m for it. This used to be a forest now it’s a big muddy hell hole and there are a thousand other mine just down the road.
Your a truck driver? What kind of rig? Looks like a volvo
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Nah theyre big plastic toys imo wouldnt last anywhere 4x4 ing
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I think the boom in fracking is already done. Well, I know it is in North Dakota and west Texas. It’s still happening but it’s not like you’ll go out there with no experience and bring home 200k in 6 months anymore.
Idk man, I go to frac sand mines all the time. I can’t really say I’m for it. This used to be a forest now it’s a big muddy hell hole and there are a thousand other mine just down the road.
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not completely true...they essentially built on tahoe platforms.
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Your a truck driver? What kind of rig? Looks like a volvo
Yeah, tanker yanker.
I got a few that’s my Volvo with a sleeper then I drive a crusty old international daycab with a Detroit 500 in it for my backup truck which I prefer to drive most days anyways.
You a driver?
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Yessir i got my cdl 8 months ago. Currently saving some capital for a rig. Should be able to boss up around the end of the year. Im currently hauling with an end dump. Plenty of work year round so far locally. Got any advice for a young stud trying to boss up?
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whats the best whip that if someone crashes into me they gon get ****ed up while ima be chillin
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Shoot didn’t know that a while ago or maybe still .. in Alaska you don’t need a cdl to drive some rigs when working for them oil and mining companies since you ain’t even going to be on the roads
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Nice, man I always hear spend 50k on a truck and have 50k in the bank for repairs.
Obviously don’t lease a truck, you’re gonna get screwed and be out of business before you know it. I really don’t have much advice though other than learn on someone else’s dollar which you’re already doing.
I’d ask on truckers report. It’s kind of a bunch of red neck clowns over there but there is also some legit help too. That’s good you’re doing end dump though vs bumping docks, something a little more specialized will always help. That’s why I drive tankers.
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Yeah if they own the land I don’t think you need one. A lot of mechanics don’t have them but they don’t need one to drive on their property.
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I like my cars light, agile and nimble.
F getting a truck. People think having a big vehicle is going to protect you on the road. Any experienced driver knows that having a light vehicle you can react and maneuver quickly is more safe.
F getting a truck. People think having a big vehicle is going to protect you on the road. Any experienced driver knows that having a light vehicle you can react and maneuver quickly is more safe.
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I understand where you coming from but thats factually incorrect. It happens to be an American thing that folks of all races subscribe too.
I wasnt a fan before but some of these joints are very dope inside.
I understand where you coming from but thats factually incorrect. It happens to be an American thing that folks of all races subscribe too.
I wasnt a fan before but some of these joints are very dope inside.
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What? You can be as skilled and your car can move like a cat, but what about the things you cant see or be prepared for? If someone runs a red at an intersection and tbones you late at night when youre sleepy and not paying attention, you arent gonna avoid that. I rather by in an F-150 than a GT3.
That being said, I live in NYC and id never get a truck. Parking would be horrid.
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dodge ram.
sturdiest frames unless ur talkin a 2500/3500 diesel dualie or something. rams still have metal bumpers and grills as well. now if u crashed a ram into a silverado damage would be fairly equal but overall id say Ram is the sturdiest frame
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you can't fight physics when a truck hits a car da car is gonna fold like a loose leaf.
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Thinkin bout gettin a midsize SUV for my next whip. Prolly a Ford Edge or sumn like that. I been drivin boring *** sedans all my life. Time for a change 
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Not shocked. SUV's are appealing. Especially with all the SUV's and pick ups on the road.
A lot of people feel safer in SUV's and a lot of guys have little man syndrome.
A lot of people feel safer in SUV's and a lot of guys have little man syndrome.
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Domestic Luxury Trucks Now Usurping Germany’s Market Share of Premium Vehicles
By Matt Posky on February 16, 2018
We did it! Thanks to the modern obsession with larger vehicles and opulence, domestic luxury brands are taking off like a rocket. It’s going so well, in fact, that American automakers are starting to steal market share from high-end import manufacturers. Of course, this is only applicable to SUV and crossover sales.
As you know, sedan sales are losing ground to their high-riding counterparts. While this hasn’t resulted in the obliteration of the passenger car market, despite claims to the contrary, those vehicles are being massacred by wayward consumers. Sedans are becoming passé and this has allowed sport utility and crossover vehicles to amass a significant portion of the pie.
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Nowhere is this more apparent than in the luxury market. The rapid growth of the luxury truck segment has substantially increased the United States’ share of domestic models sold with an average transaction price of $60,000 or more. Apparently, the inarguably phenomenal Mercedes-Benz S-Class doesn’t have jack squat on the GMC Yukon Denali.
Suck it, cars.
Obviously, we don’t truly believe that. Even with SUV sales blasting off into the stratosphere, sedans are coming off an absolutely massive share of domestic light vehicle sales. Even if they were to decline in popularity at their current rate, it would take many years before they became an insignificant portion of the market. We don’t want to be cocky about this, either. Look what’s happened to the minivan segment.
The fact remains that Americans are abandoning family sedans and small cars for sport utility vehicles and trucks. The New York Timesestimates that, last month, two of every three new vehicles sold were classified as trucks — either SUVs, crossovers, pickups, or minivans. The trend isn’t exclusive to mainstream nameplates. Luxury brands have been scrambling to flesh out their lineups to account for the shift in preference and domestic manufacturers have done an incredible job.
GMC accounted for 11.3 percent of domestic sales for models with an average price of $60,000 or more in 2017, according to data from Edmunds. Five years earlier, the brand made up a mere 0.1 percent of those sales. Ford and Chevrolet witnessed similar, albeit more modest, increases driven by ultra-premium truck and SUV sales. However, both started with their feet a little deeper in the market.
Meanwhile, the share of the U.S. over-$60,000 club inhabited by Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, Lexus, Jaguar and Cadillac actually shrank by a considerable margin in the same timeframe. Established luxury brands are now losing ground to mainstream automakers in the premium segments. Hell, Ford will sell you a pickup that costs roughly $100,000 now. What a time to be alive!
“We are seeing it,” said Tom Libby, an industry analyst for IHS Markit. “There is movement from luxury cars to luxury trucks.”
It makes sense for automakers to push SUVs as hard as possible, too. They can charge more for them, and the profit margins are far better than that of sedans. In fact, certain cars even lose automakers money. General Motors reportedly loses around $9,000 on every Chevrolet Bolt it sells. While that’s a pretty extreme example (but weirdly common among electric cars), sedans just aren’t making the kind of fast cash that trucks are.
General Motors outlined its plan to produce even more pricey Denali variants for GMC at a recent investor conference. The company highlighted data indicating that the Denali line had an average sale price of $56,000, which is far more than the average transaction price for any of the German luxury brands that aren’t Porsche.
“This thing is a money machine,” said GM president Dan Ammann.
He’s not wrong. Domestic automakers make tens of thousands of dollars on a single well-optioned truck or SUV, and they’re going to milk them for every dime. Ford only started production on the fourth generation of the Expedition, along with the Lincoln Navigator, in September of last year. It has decided to build 25 percent more this year than originally planned.
At the same time, luxury sedan volume is shrinking. These models held roughly 7.5 percent of the total domestic market in in 2013, but that number slipped to 5.4 in 2017. But manufacturers can load up a fairly basic truck with all the trimmings and it suddenly becomes irresistible. Currently, over half of all F-Series sales come from Lariat, King Ranch and Raptor models. That’s up from one-third just four years ago. Meanwhile, Denali editions now account for 29 percent of all GMC’s sales.
[Image: General Motors]
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/02/domestic-luxury-trucks/
By Matt Posky on February 16, 2018
We did it! Thanks to the modern obsession with larger vehicles and opulence, domestic luxury brands are taking off like a rocket. It’s going so well, in fact, that American automakers are starting to steal market share from high-end import manufacturers. Of course, this is only applicable to SUV and crossover sales.
As you know, sedan sales are losing ground to their high-riding counterparts. While this hasn’t resulted in the obliteration of the passenger car market, despite claims to the contrary, those vehicles are being massacred by wayward consumers. Sedans are becoming passé and this has allowed sport utility and crossover vehicles to amass a significant portion of the pie.
Advertisement
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Nowhere is this more apparent than in the luxury market. The rapid growth of the luxury truck segment has substantially increased the United States’ share of domestic models sold with an average transaction price of $60,000 or more. Apparently, the inarguably phenomenal Mercedes-Benz S-Class doesn’t have jack squat on the GMC Yukon Denali.
Suck it, cars.
Obviously, we don’t truly believe that. Even with SUV sales blasting off into the stratosphere, sedans are coming off an absolutely massive share of domestic light vehicle sales. Even if they were to decline in popularity at their current rate, it would take many years before they became an insignificant portion of the market. We don’t want to be cocky about this, either. Look what’s happened to the minivan segment.
The fact remains that Americans are abandoning family sedans and small cars for sport utility vehicles and trucks. The New York Timesestimates that, last month, two of every three new vehicles sold were classified as trucks — either SUVs, crossovers, pickups, or minivans. The trend isn’t exclusive to mainstream nameplates. Luxury brands have been scrambling to flesh out their lineups to account for the shift in preference and domestic manufacturers have done an incredible job.
GMC accounted for 11.3 percent of domestic sales for models with an average price of $60,000 or more in 2017, according to data from Edmunds. Five years earlier, the brand made up a mere 0.1 percent of those sales. Ford and Chevrolet witnessed similar, albeit more modest, increases driven by ultra-premium truck and SUV sales. However, both started with their feet a little deeper in the market.
Meanwhile, the share of the U.S. over-$60,000 club inhabited by Porsche, Mercedes-Benz, Lexus, Jaguar and Cadillac actually shrank by a considerable margin in the same timeframe. Established luxury brands are now losing ground to mainstream automakers in the premium segments. Hell, Ford will sell you a pickup that costs roughly $100,000 now. What a time to be alive!
“We are seeing it,” said Tom Libby, an industry analyst for IHS Markit. “There is movement from luxury cars to luxury trucks.”
It makes sense for automakers to push SUVs as hard as possible, too. They can charge more for them, and the profit margins are far better than that of sedans. In fact, certain cars even lose automakers money. General Motors reportedly loses around $9,000 on every Chevrolet Bolt it sells. While that’s a pretty extreme example (but weirdly common among electric cars), sedans just aren’t making the kind of fast cash that trucks are.
General Motors outlined its plan to produce even more pricey Denali variants for GMC at a recent investor conference. The company highlighted data indicating that the Denali line had an average sale price of $56,000, which is far more than the average transaction price for any of the German luxury brands that aren’t Porsche.
“This thing is a money machine,” said GM president Dan Ammann.
He’s not wrong. Domestic automakers make tens of thousands of dollars on a single well-optioned truck or SUV, and they’re going to milk them for every dime. Ford only started production on the fourth generation of the Expedition, along with the Lincoln Navigator, in September of last year. It has decided to build 25 percent more this year than originally planned.
At the same time, luxury sedan volume is shrinking. These models held roughly 7.5 percent of the total domestic market in in 2013, but that number slipped to 5.4 in 2017. But manufacturers can load up a fairly basic truck with all the trimmings and it suddenly becomes irresistible. Currently, over half of all F-Series sales come from Lariat, King Ranch and Raptor models. That’s up from one-third just four years ago. Meanwhile, Denali editions now account for 29 percent of all GMC’s sales.
[Image: General Motors]
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2018/02/domestic-luxury-trucks/
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