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[yankees1129]

when did the ads start?

 

[thagreatj]

just seein how my posts have changed.

 

[babyjordan0312]

Sad to say,

But Niketalk has really gone down the drain.

You can keep utilizing "The cup is half full" theory,with regards to our new changes here @ NT.

But IMO, I wish I could turn back the clock 2 years on this board.

But instead of just complaining,why don't some members and I correspond with each other and think of a new and constructive way to change this board.Or wecan just "Love it or Leave it" from the message I am getting on here.

 

[4wrestling]

testing

 

[4wrestling]

That's what I thought. Very strange.

 

[VinMillerHearn58]

How do I edit my sig?

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Click "Navigation" on the top right corner of the screen, then hit "Edit Signature" on the right side of the drop down thing.

 

[holdenmichael]

Originally Posted by BabyJordan0312


Sad to say,

But Niketalk< /u> has really gone down the drain.

You can keep utilizing "The cup is half full" theory,with regards to our new changes here @ NT.

But IMO, I wish I could turn back the clock 2 years on this board.

But instead of just complaining,why don't some members and I correspond with each other and think of a new and constructive way to change this board.Or we can just "Love it or Leave it" from the message I am getting on here.

Why can't you provide the "new and constructive" ways to change the board here? Do you even know what it is you want to see? I don'tunderstand how people can claim that NikTalk has fallen off or gone done the drain without being able to provide even one sentence's worth of support fortheir claim. I hope you understand why I see non-specific, non-constructive complaints as nothing more than whining or at best, a failure to understand thatyou don't like ANY change.

 

[babyjordan0312]

WellHoldenmichael...

To give a response as to why I feel Niketalk is not what it used to be 2 years ago...goes a little something like this.

1 - Lack of participation from key administrators such as yourself.

I feel that back when JRose5 - Bastich - Yourself (Holdenmichael) were here on a more regular basis,the board was better kept and you guys provided more regulation. Methodman appears alone now in hisefforts.
His work is appreciated and I realize only 1 man can do so much.But I would like to see you guys here on a more regular basis. TheAdmins.mentioned above, provide the "spark" I believe this board is lacking today.

2 - Advertisements

I fully understand the reasoning behind them according to previous statements made by Niketalk staff.
i.e. Regarding Costs Etc.

I also do appreciate the fact that you have given some of the money back to charaities.

But as a visitor of niketalk.I still prefer "pure content" rather than having to scroll past ads that promote stuff I'll never need or use.

Hell you guys have even had ads with soft porn/date sites..
Also to having "Fake Shoes" advertised here on NT.

How can we get on others for this (Slam Mag. / Brand Jordan) Etc. when we cannot even control it ourselves here as a smaller scaled community.

I do know now that this problem appears rectified and Ads appear to monitor I.P. addresses,so depending on your area,we will all have different ads whenviewing the same page...

But the question I now have is. Are there still high operating costs now that we are here on Yuku and are the Ads. still warrented due to this cost.

3 - Last for now.. Too Much attention to cosmetic details and layout,rather than to actual CONTENT.

I will only speak for myself on this matter,but in 2007 when I visit NT I feel I gain nothing and take nothing away from this board when I visit.It's all about giving and receiving.

There is more I will come up with,but that's it for now.

As for being CONSTRUCTIVE.

Give some time for me to answer,Rome was not built in a day..

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Yo how do you make use of the spoiler feature? don't know where it is

 

[finnns2003]

i don't like the fact that i pay for ezsupporter yet i still have to see the ads. that is pure bs. why would i pay yet still have to see these annoying adsevery page? i have a big-time problem with this new 'feature'

 

[Methodical Management]

Lack of participation from key administrators such as yourself.
This is totally, 100% unqualified on your part. If you trust me in the least, recognize that I know what goes on behind the scenes here. Thecommitment these men and women on our staff have made to the site is nothing short of spectacular. You can't walk into a department store - which existsjust to take your money - on holidays. You can log on to NikeTalk at 3am on ANY holiday and there will likely be a staff member present - and they'reVOLUNTEERING. That's taken TOTALLY for granted. I have not once, in the nearly 8 years since we started the site, heard even ONE person say "Hey,thank you guys so much for being here to keep the forum safe at 3 am on a holiday weekend." The perception is probably that it's all fun and games,that moderating the board is just like visiting only you have a ban button. You know all those posts you DON'T go in? All those replies you ignore? Allthose silly internet squabbles you avoid like the plague? That's what we HAVE to deal with every single day. We all enjoy the quality content, but thatdoesn't happen by itself. The reason the board has the atmosphere it does, the reason it's not a complete idiot snakepit, is because there are hardworking men and women on this site around the clock, 365 days a year weeding out the negativity, the fraudulent listings, the racial slurs, the personalattacks, and so on. That's not FUN.

Since you called out Holdenmichael in particular, you should know that he's one of the most dedicated, hardest working people on our staff and that hasbeen the case since he graciously accepted our invitation to join the staff. You've seen people come and go - he's been here. The quick reply box onezboard, the censored emoticon, the flashing inbox notification on the old ezboard, and all the changes announced in this post were a result ofHoldenmichael's hard work. He's no HTML guru. He took the time to go into customization forums and work with the people there to devise solutions forour community. He's done more work for this community than most of you will ever know, and the reason is because he doesn't go around looking forattention of even credit for his work. I wanted him to make this post so people would at least acknowledge all his hard work - and look what he's receivedfor his trouble: complaints! And now his commitment is being called into question? That's more than I can tolerate.

We would be lucky to have even 10 members exert half the effort of a holdenmichael. Everyone knows Dirty, everyone knows about Ska - and they should becausethose guys are AMAZING contributors to NikeTalk both as members and personalities. They're just fun to have around on the board, they're tremendousfriends to our community and we're richer for having them. It's a shame, though, that some of the other staff members don't get that type ofattention simply because they choose to take a less VISIBLE role. Every hour Holdenmichael spends tweaking a fix for us is an hour he doesn't have tosocialize on the board and, remember, not everyone's a socialite by nature anyway.

So, don't mistake visibility with activity. Of course we could use some additional help on the staff and obviously some staff members are no longer activethese days - but it's a very demanding commitment and few people have the time, energy, the commitment, the desire, or the equanimity and maturity tohandle it. The last thing we should be doing is complaining about the staff members we DO have. They sacrifice more than anyone on this board, so to say"do more work for me for free" is not the angle you want to come with.

But as a visitor of niketalk.I still prefer "pure content" rather than having to scroll past ads that promote stuff I'll never need or use.
The reality is that websites cost a great deal of money. We've already spent a lot of money out of pocket to run this site - I reallydon't know what your expectations are in this regard, but point blank: they're unfair. How much more do you expect the staff to sacrifice when youcan't even be bothered to look at or click and occasional ad to keep the community alive and donate money to worthy charities? You really need to takeanother look at your stance on this. This board costs thousands of dollars each month to keep online. Where do you expect that money to come from? Youseriously can't stand to look at ads even though they keep us online AND benefit charity?

If that's how you feel, I"m sorry, but there's nothing we can do about that. This is life. We already give thousands and thousands of hours ofour time - which is valuable, by the way. So, to suggest that we should just pay tens of thousands of dollars to host the site for you on top of everythingelse is just plain selfish.

What other site does this? What is your expectation based on? What other sneaker site donates ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of its ad revenue above the basic cost ofhosting to charity. Even charitable organizations pay their full time staff. We don't. Are you honestly asking for a bigger sacrifice than that?

3 - Last for now.. Too Much attention to cosmetic details and layout,rather than to actual CONTENT.
You know, there are really two major problems here:

1. You can hardly blame the staff members for the content of the board. The staff members try to make sure that the NEGATIVE content is purged from thecommunity: the illegal downloads, the drug use, the profanity, the slurs, the flame wars, etc. We're not the ones who post the sneaker news anymore. It's not because we can't - I have the same "contacts" I did when I broke the Air Jordan XV1 pics all those years back. The difference isthat the news flows through so much faster now that the staff is no longer needed in that capacity. This is where I get my news now, period. So to say,"Holdenmichael, I'm not laughing as much when I come on here anymore. Tell me a joke" is kind of silly. You have thousands of members on herecontributing and the experience is what all of us, collectively, make of it - both for ourselves and each other. The simple answer is that if you want betterposts, start better posts. Get involved with existing discussions and help steer them in interesting ways. If you were at a party with 20,000 other peopleand it's being kept safe and friendly, whose fault is it that you're standing in the corner moping? We all have to do our part, and heaping that allon the staff solves nothing. You have hundreds of new topics started per day - that's not going to come from the staff. All we can do is FEATURE the goodtopics - which is a great new addition to the site and helps raise awareness of interesting topics in other forums and within forums - and eliminate the badcontent, and we continue to work assiduously on both fronts. Beyond that, the quality of posts is dependent upon those actually POSTING.

2. "Quality" posts is entirely subjective and varies both across individuals and over time. The truth of the matter is that most users have afinite life cycle on NikeTalk or any other message board. You're going to see similar posts. That's just life. If you were to watch the 11o'clock news every day for your entire life, it's going to be the same thing over and over again - even though the events are different they can allfall into roughly the same categories and the more you watch, the more patterned and repetitive it seems. The same could be said of almost anything. If youshow the average person EVERY single regular season NBA game, they're going to burn out at different periods depending on just how dedicated they are asfans and how much they're able to get out of each individual game. If you've been here for a couple of years, obviously you're going to seesimilar posts pop up every hour. I've been here long enough that I can even see the users' life cycles. You see how eager people are starting out -EVERY post is new and interesting to them, something they've never experienced before, and yet those SAME posts are a source of vexation forself-proclaimed veterans. After the second year, EVERY SINGLE YEAR people say "NikeTalk isn't what it was 2 years ago." Is that becauseNikeTalk was at its best during year ONE and has gone downhill ever since? Obviously not. NikeTalk is different today, but in many ways it's light yearsahead of where we were in 1999. What actually happens is that INDIVIDUALS burn out and that changes their perceptions of the community. It really has verylittle to do with the actual content, because the content itself is cyclical as well. The same posts that fascinated you when you were a new user arefascinating to our CURRENT crop of new users. And two years from now or three years from now those new users will get tired of the posts and complain abouthow the novelty is no longer there - and they'll blame us for that as well, just as previous generations have.

We would love to have you all with us indefinitely, but the truth of the matter is that people's priorities in life change and not everyone is going to beinterested in the subjects people typically discuss on NikeTalk in 2 years. When we started out, I was a big fan of Jordan brand. I'm still a MichaelJordan fan, but their products aren't designed for people who actually saw MJ play as a Bull, much less a Tarheel. It's made for 15 year olds. Everyone has to make peace with that at some point. Some people will, and they'll find other ways to enjoy the community and they'll realize thattheir experience here is what THEY make of it - not what someone else makes FOR them - and others will feel as though they'd rather spend their time doingsomething else - and that's fine. What we have to understand, though, is that everyone is at a different point along that continuum. What's aterrible post for you is why someone else comes here. So, if you want to add content that appeals to you - the answer isn't to shatter what someone elseenjoys, but to determine what you DO enjoy and use the community as a tool to find others who share that interest. At that point, together you can create andparticipate in the types of discussions you DO enjoy on NikeTalk and use those posts to meet others who share those interests. Those resources exist. Infact, there are greater resources to that end now than ever before. You have unlimited post storage space, search tags, a working search feature, profileswhere you can write blogs and have your friends subscribe to those and your own topics with RSS, and use the social networking features to make new friends ifyou so choose. All of that is available to you - and at no small effort on our part. It's up to you to make positive use of it.

 

[finnns2003]

meth, i'm still curious to know why ezsupporter members still see ads. that was one of the 'perks' of buying ezsupporter in the first place.

 

[Methodical Management]

meth, i'm still curious to know why ezsupporter members still see ads. that was one of the 'perks' of buying ezsupporter in the first place.
We don't see any of the money from ezsupporter. That's a program ezboard was running. They have some legacy support for it, from what Iunderstand, but this is a different platform and our ads are implemented differently now - which is why they weren't available at launch. So, that'snot something that I can fix and, to be candid, it's not something I would want to fix. I was telling anyone who would listen whenever the subject ofezsupporter came up NOT to renew because those features would be superfluous on Yuku. Everyone has unlimited PMs now, everyone can post in HTML, etc.

We basically LOST money when ezsupporters viewed the site because we didn't get any credit for their views and obviously they couldn't click through -and that ultimately hurts our charities. The ads are really a small price to pay for NikeTalk. I regret that some people renewed their subscriptions, but itcertainly wasn't something we were promoting - quite the contrary. The alternative would've been to leave ezboard entirely and start fresh somewhereelse, and in that case obviously ezsupporter accounts would have no meaning at all. The difference here is that because we're with Yuku, all your accountnames, post counts, and our existing forum posts all survived the transition and we have the benefits of the Yuku platform available. So, there was really nowway the ezsupporter benefits would've survived the move regardless and I know I was clear on that point going in.

 

[finnns2003]

i see, well i do indeed regret renewing it now. there's basically no point. but thanks for the explanation

 

[ayohov]

i still cant figure out how to get my damn sig to work

 

[briannnnn]

click on navigation.
click on edit signature.

 

[ravagebx]

I'm not a big fan of the never ending thread topics. We should've just upped the limit. Back when it was "x" amount of pages before threadsdisappeared I felt like I could get to basically all the threads I had interest in.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Originally Posted by xBuddha Blessx

Yo how do you make use of the spoiler feature? don't know where it is

Really tho, I understand this question may have been over looked but how do you make use of it???

 

[briannnnn]

(spoiler) stuff you want to put inside (/spoiler)

replace parentheses with brackets.

 

[scuse7]

How do i get my picture avy to get bigger. All of them are small like my one now.

 

[gregzzy23]

Is anyone working on bringing the censored icon back or is it gonna stay the way it is now?

 

[holdenmichael]

Originally Posted by SCuse7

How do i get my picture avy to get bigger. All of them are small like my one now.

Your image looks like it's wider than it is tall so I don't believe there's anything that can be done with that. What are the originaldimensions of the image?

gregzzy23 posted:

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Is anyone working on bringing the censored icon back or is it gonna stay the way it is now?

I may test it out tonight, but it's low on my priority list.

 

[ronald0]

then what is high on the priority list?

 

[rapper slash exec]

Would there be a way to bring the reader to the first unread post in a thread?