My Gay Friends: Please stop comparing your plight to civil rights.

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Originally Posted by nawlinsjunkie

Just because black people had it worse does NOT mean that this isn't a civil rights issue...I've heard some black people in real life tell other minorities to stop complaining about injustices just because of what their ancestors went through 
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Roll your eyes to the Jews, specifically Zionists, who do this as well.
 
Originally Posted by nawlinsjunkie

Just because black people had it worse does NOT mean that this isn't a civil rights issue...I've heard some black people in real life tell other minorities to stop complaining about injustices just because of what their ancestors went through 
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Roll your eyes to the Jews, specifically Zionists, who do this as well.
 
Originally Posted by Be MetaPhysical

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Lies...AIDs was clearly engineered. You are their slave. Everything you say is against us. 

LOL I never said AIDS wasn't engineered smart one. I was simply saying that's not a conclusion to jump to whenever a microbe causes a pandemic....there's no proof of either the engineering or the monkey theory. I don't know where AIDS came from and judging by the intelligence you've displayed time and time again on NT you certainly don't
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Not surprised you would be the "type" to think it was engineered as a fact without sufficient evidence...it's what you do. Nothing I said that was crossed out if a lie, I have done bench research in molecular/microbiology (something you could never even begin to contemplate with your tiny tiny brain) and have witnessed it first hand. Not everyone is still living with the brain of a pre-historic land bird. Stick to fantasy books and what you know.


I was gonna call you something worse than a slave but I'm better than that
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You don't know where AIDs comes from. You don't know where imperialism comes from. You don't know where capitalism comes from. You've never demonstrated in any political ideology for our African people getting pushed around and DOMINATED by Europeans and Arabs and every other people who have solidarity to achieve real material gain and continue their survival. %*%@ your research. It has no value to our culture. 
The black man is unrepresented on earth and brothers like you perpetuate falseness that will continue our subordination to other men. 

I don't have a problem with you personally,  but honestly you've made yourself an open enemy to the revolution. Peace. 
This can't be real life 
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Originally Posted by Be MetaPhysical

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Lies...AIDs was clearly engineered. You are their slave. Everything you say is against us. 

LOL I never said AIDS wasn't engineered smart one. I was simply saying that's not a conclusion to jump to whenever a microbe causes a pandemic....there's no proof of either the engineering or the monkey theory. I don't know where AIDS came from and judging by the intelligence you've displayed time and time again on NT you certainly don't
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Not surprised you would be the "type" to think it was engineered as a fact without sufficient evidence...it's what you do. Nothing I said that was crossed out if a lie, I have done bench research in molecular/microbiology (something you could never even begin to contemplate with your tiny tiny brain) and have witnessed it first hand. Not everyone is still living with the brain of a pre-historic land bird. Stick to fantasy books and what you know.


I was gonna call you something worse than a slave but I'm better than that
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You don't know where AIDs comes from. You don't know where imperialism comes from. You don't know where capitalism comes from. You've never demonstrated in any political ideology for our African people getting pushed around and DOMINATED by Europeans and Arabs and every other people who have solidarity to achieve real material gain and continue their survival. %*%@ your research. It has no value to our culture. 
The black man is unrepresented on earth and brothers like you perpetuate falseness that will continue our subordination to other men. 

I don't have a problem with you personally,  but honestly you've made yourself an open enemy to the revolution. Peace. 
This can't be real life 
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Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by PleasurePhD

Originally Posted by Wr


I know what he is refering too, and the theories, but I wanted to start a discussion with him too see why he thinks that. What are his scientific facts. the supposed facts these indivuduals are bringing up mean nothing. If you have studied microbio and e. Coli you wouldnt see anything out the ordinary just a bad new strain. Not a bioweapon lol. E. Coli replicates every 20 mins I thinj maybe faster (been a while since I had to think of its replicating time) everytime is replicates it copies its own genome, and that is causes many new mutation, which in turn can make new strains, with some very bad genes. Its a crap shoot, but if you could mutate your entire genome in twenty mins imagine how many times you would randomly come out bad. The HIV theories make me laugh too. Well the ones about it being engineered. especially, theories about it being engineered from non-retro/lenti viruses.Lastly, you guy realize that these are terrible bioweapons if they were bioweapons. A bioweapon is suppose to cause larger fast human to human spread and disease to quick death. Also, usually a very resilient microbe. Not small epidemics, or slow life long diseases, were people can function normally. Ebola, that's a good weapon. Anthrax, good. Unless your goal was to wipe out a species, but what good is that? We are all #*$% sapiens so we would all die.

You're a very smart man, HIV is an AWFUL bioweapon. Most bioweapons like you said are supposed to take out "specific" populations swiftly, why would you make a bioweapon that puts other unintended targets at risk. And HIV infected man can live for a relatively long time and spread the disease to unintended populations.


The same people who think the new strains of ecoli is bioterrorism probably think new recombinant flu viruses are weapons as well. Microbes don't need our help to kill people (although over-prescription of antibiotics may hasten the evolution process by producing resistant strains). These life forms have been with us since the dawn of man and have been killing people without our help...give them some credit so to speak.


Yes, it's amazing what microscopic lifeforms can do to us, the "superior" species. I'm not as uptodate as I should be but, I'm pretty sure researchers have almost pinpointed the placement of HIV in the viral evolutionary tree and its origins. With the help of bioinformatics they have been able to discover a lot. Lol reminds me of my path bac professor she hated antibiotic soap and the idiots that would use prescribed antibiotics for everything even when they didnt have a bacterial infection. THIS is how super bugs are made, or I should say selected for.
 
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by PleasurePhD

Originally Posted by Wr


I know what he is refering too, and the theories, but I wanted to start a discussion with him too see why he thinks that. What are his scientific facts. the supposed facts these indivuduals are bringing up mean nothing. If you have studied microbio and e. Coli you wouldnt see anything out the ordinary just a bad new strain. Not a bioweapon lol. E. Coli replicates every 20 mins I thinj maybe faster (been a while since I had to think of its replicating time) everytime is replicates it copies its own genome, and that is causes many new mutation, which in turn can make new strains, with some very bad genes. Its a crap shoot, but if you could mutate your entire genome in twenty mins imagine how many times you would randomly come out bad. The HIV theories make me laugh too. Well the ones about it being engineered. especially, theories about it being engineered from non-retro/lenti viruses.Lastly, you guy realize that these are terrible bioweapons if they were bioweapons. A bioweapon is suppose to cause larger fast human to human spread and disease to quick death. Also, usually a very resilient microbe. Not small epidemics, or slow life long diseases, were people can function normally. Ebola, that's a good weapon. Anthrax, good. Unless your goal was to wipe out a species, but what good is that? We are all #*$% sapiens so we would all die.

You're a very smart man, HIV is an AWFUL bioweapon. Most bioweapons like you said are supposed to take out "specific" populations swiftly, why would you make a bioweapon that puts other unintended targets at risk. And HIV infected man can live for a relatively long time and spread the disease to unintended populations.


The same people who think the new strains of ecoli is bioterrorism probably think new recombinant flu viruses are weapons as well. Microbes don't need our help to kill people (although over-prescription of antibiotics may hasten the evolution process by producing resistant strains). These life forms have been with us since the dawn of man and have been killing people without our help...give them some credit so to speak.


Yes, it's amazing what microscopic lifeforms can do to us, the "superior" species. I'm not as uptodate as I should be but, I'm pretty sure researchers have almost pinpointed the placement of HIV in the viral evolutionary tree and its origins. With the help of bioinformatics they have been able to discover a lot. Lol reminds me of my path bac professor she hated antibiotic soap and the idiots that would use prescribed antibiotics for everything even when they didnt have a bacterial infection. THIS is how super bugs are made, or I should say selected for.
 
That's another thing I've noticed. Some ppl crying about this comparison keep referencing all of the black ppl dying for civil rights as if this is suppose to be some pissing contest. It always struck me as a daunting example of ignorance. Like gays can't get civil rights until they spend a century or two being hung from trees and hunted in society.
 
That's another thing I've noticed. Some ppl crying about this comparison keep referencing all of the black ppl dying for civil rights as if this is suppose to be some pissing contest. It always struck me as a daunting example of ignorance. Like gays can't get civil rights until they spend a century or two being hung from trees and hunted in society.
 
Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

That's another thing I've noticed. Some ppl crying about this comparison keep referencing all of the black ppl dying for civil rights as if this is suppose to be some pissing contest. It always stuck me as a daunting example of ignorance. Like gays can't get civil rights until they spend a century or two being hung from trees and hunted in society.

word, I'm sorry homosexuals started their struggle in a more progressive time in American society. Furthermore, black people in this country today have it way better than their ancestors.....does this mean black people today have no right to express grievances?
 
Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Yeah, gays have it great. They are considered an abomination by many and they often can't openly live their lifestyle without being ostracized. That sounds like a great life.
Sounds like being black. Gotta have tough skin as a minority 
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So now you're contradicting yourself.
Nah using your description I am. 
Using what I see even in southern cities like Birmingham and Atlanta and in the industry I frequent in. They got it pretty good. Especially since they can point to only 1 thing they cant do. The gays I've been around arent thinking about getting married. Its not even a big issue. 
 
Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Yeah, gays have it great. They are considered an abomination by many and they often can't openly live their lifestyle without being ostracized. That sounds like a great life.
Sounds like being black. Gotta have tough skin as a minority 
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So now you're contradicting yourself.
Nah using your description I am. 
Using what I see even in southern cities like Birmingham and Atlanta and in the industry I frequent in. They got it pretty good. Especially since they can point to only 1 thing they cant do. The gays I've been around arent thinking about getting married. Its not even a big issue. 
 
Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

That's another thing I've noticed. Some ppl crying about this comparison keep referencing all of the black ppl dying for civil rights as if this is suppose to be some pissing contest. It always stuck me as a daunting example of ignorance. Like gays can't get civil rights until they spend a century or two being hung from trees and hunted in society.

word, I'm sorry homosexuals started their struggle in a more progressive time in American society. Furthermore, black people in this country today have it way better than their ancestors.....does this mean black people today have no right to express grievances?
 
Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Originally Posted by cartune

Sounds like being black. Gotta have tough skin as a minority 
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So now you're contradicting yourself.
Nah using your description I am. 
Using what I see even in southern cities like Birmingham and Atlanta and in the industry I frequent in. They got it pretty good. Especially since they can point to only 1 thing they cant do. The gays I've been around arent thinking about getting married. Its not even a big issue. 
Personal anecdotes are sufficient to draw conclusions about an issue? Where I'm from, minority groups seem to live pretty well. By your logic, that means that they "have it good".
 
Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by So Nyuh Shi Dae

Originally Posted by cartune

Sounds like being black. Gotta have tough skin as a minority 
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So now you're contradicting yourself.
Nah using your description I am. 
Using what I see even in southern cities like Birmingham and Atlanta and in the industry I frequent in. They got it pretty good. Especially since they can point to only 1 thing they cant do. The gays I've been around arent thinking about getting married. Its not even a big issue. 
Personal anecdotes are sufficient to draw conclusions about an issue? Where I'm from, minority groups seem to live pretty well. By your logic, that means that they "have it good".
 
Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by Be MetaPhysical

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


LOL I never said AIDS wasn't engineered smart one. I was simply saying that's not a conclusion to jump to whenever a microbe causes a pandemic....there's no proof of either the engineering or the monkey theory. I don't know where AIDS came from and judging by the intelligence you've displayed time and time again on NT you certainly don't
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Not surprised you would be the "type" to think it was engineered as a fact without sufficient evidence...it's what you do. Nothing I said that was crossed out if a lie, I have done bench research in molecular/microbiology (something you could never even begin to contemplate with your tiny tiny brain) and have witnessed it first hand. Not everyone is still living with the brain of a pre-historic land bird. Stick to fantasy books and what you know.


I was gonna call you something worse than a slave but I'm better than that
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You don't know where AIDs comes from. You don't know where imperialism comes from. You don't know where capitalism comes from. You've never demonstrated in any political ideology for our African people getting pushed around and DOMINATED by Europeans and Arabs and every other people who have solidarity to achieve real material gain and continue their survival. %*%@ your research. It has no value to our culture. 
The black man is unrepresented on earth and brothers like you perpetuate falseness that will continue our subordination to other men. 

I don't have a problem with you personally,  but honestly you've made yourself an open enemy to the revolution. Peace. 
This can't be real life 
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yeah this is real life...thats why your going to your little OFWGKEA concerts with a bunch of 16 year olds.
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Asians are a colonized people as well. Another people bullied into western culture. Yet you don't talk about that...Your too busying arguing that there is no god. It's disgusting. 

Why don't you tell us what they do to homosexuals in Nigeria Anton? Maybe thats why your family migrated to America
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Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by Be MetaPhysical

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


LOL I never said AIDS wasn't engineered smart one. I was simply saying that's not a conclusion to jump to whenever a microbe causes a pandemic....there's no proof of either the engineering or the monkey theory. I don't know where AIDS came from and judging by the intelligence you've displayed time and time again on NT you certainly don't
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Not surprised you would be the "type" to think it was engineered as a fact without sufficient evidence...it's what you do. Nothing I said that was crossed out if a lie, I have done bench research in molecular/microbiology (something you could never even begin to contemplate with your tiny tiny brain) and have witnessed it first hand. Not everyone is still living with the brain of a pre-historic land bird. Stick to fantasy books and what you know.


I was gonna call you something worse than a slave but I'm better than that
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You don't know where AIDs comes from. You don't know where imperialism comes from. You don't know where capitalism comes from. You've never demonstrated in any political ideology for our African people getting pushed around and DOMINATED by Europeans and Arabs and every other people who have solidarity to achieve real material gain and continue their survival. %*%@ your research. It has no value to our culture. 
The black man is unrepresented on earth and brothers like you perpetuate falseness that will continue our subordination to other men. 

I don't have a problem with you personally,  but honestly you've made yourself an open enemy to the revolution. Peace. 
This can't be real life 
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yeah this is real life...thats why your going to your little OFWGKEA concerts with a bunch of 16 year olds.
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Asians are a colonized people as well. Another people bullied into western culture. Yet you don't talk about that...Your too busying arguing that there is no god. It's disgusting. 

Why don't you tell us what they do to homosexuals in Nigeria Anton? Maybe thats why your family migrated to America
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Anton is a walking contradiction. Calls everyone who doesnt agree with homosexuality a bigot but is intolerant of religious people. Whats the difference?
 
Anton is a walking contradiction. Calls everyone who doesnt agree with homosexuality a bigot but is intolerant of religious people. Whats the difference?
 
^^^Ironically you're too busy arguing that there is a God....amongst other things of little relevance on NT. Get outta here with your self-righteous bull. Asians are oppressed people/have been but I think Asian have done a fantastic job breaking away from the strong-hold of European imperialism. Last I checked many of the fastest growing economies in the world are in Asia. You can have debates about God or women or whatever else it is we choose to on NT and still be dedicated to doing what's right. You' keep bring it up every thread cause you're salty. You know what is disgusting, people who take offense to anyone who disagrees with their religion. People actually get killed over that %$%$ in other countries, luckily I don't live in a backward *** country ruled by the likes of you. I can be as blasphemous as I wanna be cause "God" knows, religion is one of the most bigoted institutions there is.

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^^^Ironically you're too busy arguing that there is a God....amongst other things of little relevance on NT. Get outta here with your self-righteous bull. Asians are oppressed people/have been but I think Asian have done a fantastic job breaking away from the strong-hold of European imperialism. Last I checked many of the fastest growing economies in the world are in Asia. You can have debates about God or women or whatever else it is we choose to on NT and still be dedicated to doing what's right. You' keep bring it up every thread cause you're salty. You know what is disgusting, people who take offense to anyone who disagrees with their religion. People actually get killed over that %$%$ in other countries, luckily I don't live in a backward *** country ruled by the likes of you. I can be as blasphemous as I wanna be cause "God" knows, religion is one of the most bigoted institutions there is.

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Originally Posted by cartune

Anton is a walking contradiction. Calls everyone who doesnt agree with homosexuality a bigot but is intolerant of religious people. Whats the difference?

My mother is religious, my sister, close friends are all religious...i'm not intolerant of religious people. I'm intolerant of hypocritical and immoral religious people. You can believe in the easter bunny for all I care just as long as it doesn't affect anyone.

There's no difference between me expressing my non-religiousness and you expressing YOURS. It's a free country, I have that luxury. I wouldn't deny someone a job because they were religious, i wouldn't come to your village and burn it down rape your women and kill your children because you're religious. Get it right.
 
Originally Posted by cartune

Anton is a walking contradiction. Calls everyone who doesnt agree with homosexuality a bigot but is intolerant of religious people. Whats the difference?

My mother is religious, my sister, close friends are all religious...i'm not intolerant of religious people. I'm intolerant of hypocritical and immoral religious people. You can believe in the easter bunny for all I care just as long as it doesn't affect anyone.

There's no difference between me expressing my non-religiousness and you expressing YOURS. It's a free country, I have that luxury. I wouldn't deny someone a job because they were religious, i wouldn't come to your village and burn it down rape your women and kill your children because you're religious. Get it right.
 
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