My Gay Friends: Please stop comparing your plight to civil rights.

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Wait, why aren't polygamists given the same rights btw? I really have never looked it up and I'm looking for a quick straight to the point answer.

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Wait, why aren't polygamists given the same rights btw? I really have never looked it up and I'm looking for a quick straight to the point answer.

 

[j4ck]

Btw isn't Anton the nter that said he could beat Bruce Lee with 3 years of training?

 

[j4ck]

Btw isn't Anton the nter that said he could beat Bruce Lee with 3 years of training?

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Meh honestly I see no issues with polygamy, it is consensual. Children and people who can't give consent is where I draw the line....that includes animals. The potential for abuse is too great.


Anyhow we'll cross that bridge when enough polygamous people decide it's an issue. People already engage in polyamorous relationships, I guess now they can make it official. Doesn't the bible support this $#%%$, surprised more people who use the bible to bash gays don't use it to promote having multiple wives and sex slaves.

Gay people can get married, it's going to make a lot of people happy, really doesn't affect me...I'm happy for them.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Meh honestly I see no issues with polygamy, it is consensual. Children and people who can't give consent is where I draw the line....that includes animals. The potential for abuse is too great.


Anyhow we'll cross that bridge when enough polygamous people decide it's an issue. People already engage in polyamorous relationships, I guess now they can make it official. Doesn't the bible support this $#%%$, surprised more people who use the bible to bash gays don't use it to promote having multiple wives and sex slaves.

Gay people can get married, it's going to make a lot of people happy, really doesn't affect me...I'm happy for them.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by j4ck

Btw isn't Anton the nter that said he could beat Bruce Lee with 3 years of training?

Come at me bro....

. Serious, 2 years of nothing but training nothing more nothing less I could take him.

Just live me a cup and I'll be ok I think dude's head comes up to be genitals.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by j4ck

Btw isn't Anton the nter that said he could beat Bruce Lee with 3 years of training?

Come at me bro....

. Serious, 2 years of nothing but training nothing more nothing less I could take him.

Just live me a cup and I'll be ok I think dude's head comes up to be genitals.

 

[noskey]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by HankMoody

I don't understand the thought process behind this.

I do.


The movements are apples and oranges, plua you can hide  you sexual orientation. However, I can not easily disguise my race,

The comparison is an insult to the legacies of King, X, Parks, etc. Completely downplays the difficulty of the struggle.

So if you could hide your race you would? If you could camouflage your race that somehow mitigates any of the injustices or prejudices your group may suffer. I'm tryna make sense of this.

The only people saying this downplays the struggle are people who have trouble with homosexuality being associated with blackness in any way. A group that has paved the way for all civil rights movements in America should be honored. MLK didn't only fight for black civil rights, he fought for all civil rights....ironically drawing inspiration and parallels to another civil rights movement.


Your ignorance is an insult to the legacies of Dr. King, X, and Parks.

Exactly. Lets expound on Dr. King's movement a little more. For those that dont know, his lead adviser and mentor was a gay man. Bayard Rustin. A black, gay man. Read up on him if you dont know. Anyone who enjoys the freedoms they have today, who arent a white Protestant male, can thank a gay man for that. Now back in the 60's gay men were also being lynched and beaten all the same. Yet today they still suffer from inequalities, and are still being beaten and lynched. No comparison, just saying that everyone's not as different as y'all think.

The gay movement today might not have the same level importance in the grand scheme as the 60's Civil Rights movement, but the LBGT groups were standing up in the 60's movement as well. The fact that gays are still being discriminated against openly is an embarrassment to this country.

 

[noskey]

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by HankMoody

I don't understand the thought process behind this.

I do.


The movements are apples and oranges, plua you can hide  you sexual orientation. However, I can not easily disguise my race,

The comparison is an insult to the legacies of King, X, Parks, etc. Completely downplays the difficulty of the struggle.

So if you could hide your race you would? If you could camouflage your race that somehow mitigates any of the injustices or prejudices your group may suffer. I'm tryna make sense of this.

The only people saying this downplays the struggle are people who have trouble with homosexuality being associated with blackness in any way. A group that has paved the way for all civil rights movements in America should be honored. MLK didn't only fight for black civil rights, he fought for all civil rights....ironically drawing inspiration and parallels to another civil rights movement.


Your ignorance is an insult to the legacies of Dr. King, X, and Parks.

Exactly. Lets expound on Dr. King's movement a little more. For those that dont know, his lead adviser and mentor was a gay man. Bayard Rustin. A black, gay man. Read up on him if you dont know. Anyone who enjoys the freedoms they have today, who arent a white Protestant male, can thank a gay man for that. Now back in the 60's gay men were also being lynched and beaten all the same. Yet today they still suffer from inequalities, and are still being beaten and lynched. No comparison, just saying that everyone's not as different as y'all think.

The gay movement today might not have the same level importance in the grand scheme as the 60's Civil Rights movement, but the LBGT groups were standing up in the 60's movement as well. The fact that gays are still being discriminated against openly is an embarrassment to this country.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Noskey

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame


I do.


The movements are apples and oranges, plua you can hide  you sexual orientation. However, I can not easily disguise my race,

The comparison is an insult to the legacies of King, X, Parks, etc. Completely downplays the difficulty of the struggle.

So if you could hide your race you would? If you could camouflage your race that somehow mitigates any of the injustices or prejudices your group may suffer. I'm tryna make sense of this.

The only people saying this downplays the struggle are people who have trouble with homosexuality being associated with blackness in any way. A group that has paved the way for all civil rights movements in America should be honored. MLK didn't only fight for black civil rights, he fought for all civil rights....ironically drawing inspiration and parallels to another civil rights movement.


Your ignorance is an insult to the legacies of Dr. King, X, and Parks.

Exactly. Lets expound on Dr. King's movement a little more. For those that dont know, his lead adviser and mentor was a gay man. Bayard Rustin. A black, gay man. Read up on him if you dont know. Anyone who enjoys the freedoms they have today, who arent a white Protestant male, can thank a gay man for that. Now back in the 60's gay men were also being lynched and beaten all the same. Yet today they still suffer from inequalities, and are still being beaten and lynched. No comparison, just saying that everyone's not as different as y'all think.

The gay movement today might not have the same level importance in the grand scheme as the 60's Civil Rights movement, but the LBGT groups were standing up in the 60's movement as well. The fact that gays are still being discriminated against openly is an embarrassment to this country.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by Noskey

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame


I do.


The movements are apples and oranges, plua you can hide  you sexual orientation. However, I can not easily disguise my race,

The comparison is an insult to the legacies of King, X, Parks, etc. Completely downplays the difficulty of the struggle.

So if you could hide your race you would? If you could camouflage your race that somehow mitigates any of the injustices or prejudices your group may suffer. I'm tryna make sense of this.

The only people saying this downplays the struggle are people who have trouble with homosexuality being associated with blackness in any way. A group that has paved the way for all civil rights movements in America should be honored. MLK didn't only fight for black civil rights, he fought for all civil rights....ironically drawing inspiration and parallels to another civil rights movement.


Your ignorance is an insult to the legacies of Dr. King, X, and Parks.

Exactly. Lets expound on Dr. King's movement a little more. For those that dont know, his lead adviser and mentor was a gay man. Bayard Rustin. A black, gay man. Read up on him if you dont know. Anyone who enjoys the freedoms they have today, who arent a white Protestant male, can thank a gay man for that. Now back in the 60's gay men were also being lynched and beaten all the same. Yet today they still suffer from inequalities, and are still being beaten and lynched. No comparison, just saying that everyone's not as different as y'all think.

The gay movement today might not have the same level importance in the grand scheme as the 60's Civil Rights movement, but the LBGT groups were standing up in the 60's movement as well. The fact that gays are still being discriminated against openly is an embarrassment to this country.

 

[Jordan8]

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Wait, why aren't polygamists given the same rights btw? I really have never looked it up and I'm looking for a quick straight to the point answer.

Because most people believed marriage was for A man and A woman. Oh and the media hasn't made it socially acceptable yet. 
I just hope to see the same passionate internet progressives when they start coming out the closet (Utah) demanding marriage rights. 

 

[Jordan8]

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Wait, why aren't polygamists given the same rights btw? I really have never looked it up and I'm looking for a quick straight to the point answer.

Because most people believed marriage was for A man and A woman. Oh and the media hasn't made it socially acceptable yet. 
I just hope to see the same passionate internet progressives when they start coming out the closet (Utah) demanding marriage rights. 

 

[iYen]

Why are people in this thread saying that gay people's struggle isn't as bad as the black struggle?
If we're strictly talking about America maybe that statement can be proven true but if we look at it from a worldview that statement is hogwash.
Let's look at the gay struggle in places like Nigeria, Uganda, or South Africa....basically anywhere besides the U.S.

@gays got it good.
As if you've felt the same injustices that blacks in the 1800s-1950s felt.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Wait, why aren't polygamists given the same rights btw? I really have never looked it up and I'm looking for a quick straight to the point answer.

Because most people believed marriage was for A man and A woman. Oh and the media hasn't made it socially acceptable yet. 
I just hope to see the same passionate internet progressives when they start coming out the closet (Utah) demanding marriage rights. 

More than one wife you say? I aint even mad

Damn the liberal media, don't let them tell you how to act and feel.  If you got hate in your heart let it out

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Wait, why aren't polygamists given the same rights btw? I really have never looked it up and I'm looking for a quick straight to the point answer.

Because most people believed marriage was for A man and A woman. Oh and the media hasn't made it socially acceptable yet. 
I just hope to see the same passionate internet progressives when they start coming out the closet (Utah) demanding marriage rights. 

More than one wife you say? I aint even mad

Damn the liberal media, don't let them tell you how to act and feel.  If you got hate in your heart let it out

 

[iYen]

Why are people in this thread saying that gay people's struggle isn't as bad as the black struggle?
If we're strictly talking about America maybe that statement can be proven true but if we look at it from a worldview that statement is hogwash.
Let's look at the gay struggle in places like Nigeria, Uganda, or South Africa....basically anywhere besides the U.S.

@gays got it good.
As if you've felt the same injustices that blacks in the 1800s-1950s felt.

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by iYen

Why are people in this thread saying that gay people's struggle isn't as bad as the black struggle?
If we're strictly talking about America maybe that statement can be proven true but if we look at it from a worldview that statement is hogwash.
Let's look at the gay struggle in places like Nigeria, Uganda, or South Africa....basically anywhere besides the U.S.

@gays got it good.
As if you've felt the same injustices that blacks in the 1800s-1950s felt.

I brought this up how gays are treated in other countries, and all I got was "but this is America though". Imbeciles

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by iYen

Why are people in this thread saying that gay people's struggle isn't as bad as the black struggle?
If we're strictly talking about America maybe that statement can be proven true but if we look at it from a worldview that statement is hogwash.
Let's look at the gay struggle in places like Nigeria, Uganda, or South Africa....basically anywhere besides the U.S.

@gays got it good.
As if you've felt the same injustices that blacks in the 1800s-1950s felt.

I brought this up how gays are treated in other countries, and all I got was "but this is America though". Imbeciles

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Wait, why aren't polygamists given the same rights btw? I really have never looked it up and I'm looking for a quick straight to the point answer.

Because most people believed marriage was for A man and A woman. Oh and the media hasn't made it socially acceptable yet. 
I just hope to see the same passionate internet progressives when they start coming out the closet (Utah) demanding marriage rights. 

You wont. Unless religious people are against it then it'll gain massive support.

Look at what happened to the holiday season. It's been stripped down because people are offended by Christmas. 

  PETTY! PETTY! PETTY!

 

[rko2004]

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by RKO2004

Originally Posted by cartune

Anton its simple lets step away from the homosexuality issue because for whatever reason alot of yall in here are blindly passionate about that one group.

Lets say Polygamists wanted to be recognized around the country with the same marriage laws as everyone else. Its a civil rights issue right?

Now can they seriously say its the same civil rights struggle as the one going on the 50s/60s?

Wait, why aren't polygamists given the same rights btw? I really have never looked it up and I'm looking for a quick straight to the point answer.

Because most people believed marriage was for A man and A woman. Oh and the media hasn't made it socially acceptable yet. 
I just hope to see the same passionate internet progressives when they start coming out the closet (Utah) demanding marriage rights. 

You wont. Unless religious people are against it then it'll gain massive support.

Look at what happened to the holiday season. It's been stripped down because people are offended by Christmas. 

  PETTY! PETTY! PETTY!

 

[superflyinchopstickninja]

Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by thegoat121886

Qualifying wrongs as better or worse is just as lame. Both are unjust; marriage equality is no less of a social ill than any other civil right. Make inroads to solve them instead of drawing comparisons or qualifications.

this.
so stop it already, kids.

agreed 100%.  also, i only read the first 2 pages, but gay people are most definitely killed over their orientation.  do you people not watch the local news?

 

[superflyinchopstickninja]

Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by thegoat121886

Qualifying wrongs as better or worse is just as lame. Both are unjust; marriage equality is no less of a social ill than any other civil right. Make inroads to solve them instead of drawing comparisons or qualifications.

this.
so stop it already, kids.

agreed 100%.  also, i only read the first 2 pages, but gay people are most definitely killed over their orientation.  do you people not watch the local news?

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by superflyinchopstickninja

Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by thegoat121886

Qualifying wrongs as better or worse is just as lame. Both are unjust; marriage equality is no less of a social ill than any other civil right. Make inroads to solve them instead of drawing comparisons or qualifications.

this.
so stop it already, kids.

agreed 100%.  also, i only read the first 2 pages, but gay people are most definitely killed over their orientation.  do you people not watch the local news?

They have a choice tho, if they don't want to be treated unfairly or get harmed they can just hide who they are.

It's their fault for being so gay all the time.