NBA Draft Thread 2011

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Anyone else hearing about a Jonny Flynn for Toney Douglas and cash trade?
Click to expand...
Yup, Isola is reporting it as a possibility.
 
Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Anyone else hearing about a Jonny Flynn for Toney Douglas and cash trade?
Click to expand...
Yup, Isola is reporting it as a possibility.
 
Phoenix Suns could go big in Thursday's NBA draft 

When it comes to the Suns' draft situation for Thursday night, it is easier to address what won't happen:

- They won't end the night without a draft choice.

- They won't trade Vince Carter's contract, opting instead to buy him out for $4 million in the coming days.

- They probably won't use one of their trade exceptions to take on extra payroll, which could compromise flexibility expected in 2012.

- They surely are not pushing to trade center Marcin Gortat to Minnesota, a rumor that got so out of hand that Gortat received a call to assure him it was not happening.

There is a strong possibility that the Suns will keep their No. 13 overall pick and choose from a group of decent power forwards expected to be there.

There are other position possibilities, but the Suns need front-line help, and the available crop could include long-armed defensive dynamo Bismack Biyombo of Congo, Kansas tough guy Markieff Morris, developing Texas 20-year-old Tristan Thompson and Morehead State rebounding fiend Kenneth Faried.

The Suns also could consider a guard. They might decide to continue the seven-year search for a point guard Steve Nash successor if BYU's Jimmer Fredette (if he gets past Utah at No. 12) or Connecticut's Kemba Walker are available. Or they could go for a potential scorer at shooting guard such as Washington State's Klay Thompson or Colorado's Alec Burks, who is working out in Phoenix on Monday. The Suns are wondering if he could be a combo guard at 6 feet 6.

In a filmed conversation for Fredette's YouTube channel, he said the Suns told him they want a forward or a point guard. His agent, Chris Emens, also said "there's a high degree of probability that their draft pick will come out of that workout," referring to Fredette's workout Monday in Phoenix with Thompson, Markieff and Marcus Morris and Florida State defensive-minded small forward Chris Singleton.

The Suns also could try to add a pick. They dealt their 2011 second-round pick in the Hakim Warrick sign-and-trade deal last year with Chicago.

"We are in constant conversation all day, every day with virtually every team in the league, trying to see if there's anything we need to get an additional pick or if there are other ways to improve our team," Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby said. "Like most of the conversations in the NBA, they usually don't come to fruition. We're trying to take everyone's temperature."

Since 2004, the Suns have traded or sold five first-round picks. Of the three first-round picks they kept, Alando Tucker and Earl Clark are gone and Robin Lopez no longer is considered unavailable on the trade market. This 13th pick would be their highest selection they kept since drafting Amar'e Stoudemire ninth in 2002.

"At some point, we have to get younger," Babby said. "We want to begin with the draft to infuse younger players into our team."

The draft has been criticized for being weak, particularly after four potential top-10 picks (North Carolina's Harrison Barnes, Baylor's Perry Jones, Ohio State's Jared Sullinger and Kentucky's Terrence Jones) elected to return to school, in part because of the threat of a NBA lockout starting July 1.

Suns General Manager Lance Blanks still believes there is parity in the draft. Adding a draft pick can only slightly improve the Suns, necessitating other moves to make them better next season while positioning for a bigger opportunity to improve next year.

"The 13th pick, we're excited to have it," Blanks said. "We feel like we can get a good player there and someone who will have the potential to help us, whether it's in the near term or long term."
Link

Sorry allen.
laugh.gif
Of course it's the Heat too.
The numbers on Reggie Jackson

The Heat are reportedly targeting Boston College point guard Reggie Jackson with the 31st pick in the 2011 draft. With Mike Bibby and Mario Chalmers both hitting free agency this summer, the Heat potentially have a large void at the point guard slot heading into next season.

What do we know about Jackson?

He's a 21-year-old hyper-efficient point guard who left Chestnut Hill after his junior year, in which he was selected first-team All-ACC. Recently, he shut down all his workouts after he underwent a minor knee procedure on May 17. He has great size for a point guard (6-foot-3, 208 pounds and a 7-foot wingspan). For reference, he is longer fingertip-to-fingertip than Dwyane Wade, John Wall, Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook.

First, his traditional per-game averages last season at Boston College: 18.2 points, 4.5 assists, 4.3 rebounds, 1.1 steals, and 2.4 turnovers; 50.3 field goal percentage, 42.0 3-point field goal percentage, 79.6 free throw percentage.

When looking at prospects, it's important to look beyond point totals, where Jackson excels, and focus on efficiency since they won't see nearly as many shots in the pro game. And Jackson shines there as well. The Heat need a guy who can spot up from downtown and capitalize on the few scoring opportunities he receives. Jackson scored 55.6 percent on 2s and, as listed above, shot considerably above average from beyond the arc and at the foul line.

If the Heat want an efficient point guard, Jackson's their guy. Jackson led the ACC in true shooting percentage (61.8 percent) which is a metric that incorporates 3-point shooting as well as free throw shooting. The last time a point guard led the ACC in true shooting percentage? Denver Nuggets starting point guard Ty Lawson in 2008-09 when he posted a 65.9 true shooting percentage for North Carolina. Ranking second that season was Jeff Teague, a combo guard from Wake Forest, who had his breakout performance in the playoffs this season for the Atlanta Hawks.

The 3-point shooting from Jackson is a recent development. During his first two years at Boston College, Jackson shot just 28.4 percent from downtown, which posed as a major drawback for his prospects as a future NBA player. But last season, he drilled 42 percent of his 169 3-pointers during his junior year. Statistically speaking, 3-point shooting in college has a stronger correlation to NBA 3-point shooting than regular field goal percentage.

Looking at his Synergy numbers, Jackson nailed 40 percent of his 88 catch-and-shoot jumpers, a shot he'll need to get used to if he plans on playing in Miami. Among the 45 players in the ACC who put up at least 50 such shots, Jackson's conversion rate ranked 18th. For reference, Chalmers shot 43 percent on his catch-and-shoot jumpers for Kansas during his NCAA championship season.

The Heat are a unique team in that they don't need a distributor at point guard so much as they need a knockdown shooter. Take the case of Mike Bibby this past season. The veteran point guard watched his assists per 36 minutes rate drop from 4.3 in Atlanta to 3.4 in a Miami uniform. Chalmers also experienced a similar dip in his assist numbers this season just by virtue of playing alongside two other ball distributors in Wade and LeBron James. If the Heat select a point guard, he'll be asked to hit shots more than create them for others.

With this in mind, Jackson's assist numbers at Boston College may seem underwhelming at 4.5 per game, but keep in mind that (A) NCAA games are shorter and (B) generally speaking, college players can't shoot a lick. Jackson actually ranked third in the ACC in the assist-per-game category. He also outranked fellow point guards Brandon Knight, Kyrie Irving and Jimmer Fredette in assist-to-turnover ratio.

Statistically, Jackson should hold great value for whoever selects him in the late first round or early second round. If the Heat can snag him at 31st, they may have found their backup point guard next season without spending a dollar in free agency.

Link
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Phoenix Suns could go big in Thursday's NBA draft 

When it comes to the Suns' draft situation for Thursday night, it is easier to address what won't happen:

- They won't end the night without a draft choice.

- They won't trade Vince Carter's contract, opting instead to buy him out for $4 million in the coming days.

- They probably won't use one of their trade exceptions to take on extra payroll, which could compromise flexibility expected in 2012.

- They surely are not pushing to trade center Marcin Gortat to Minnesota, a rumor that got so out of hand that Gortat received a call to assure him it was not happening.

There is a strong possibility that the Suns will keep their No. 13 overall pick and choose from a group of decent power forwards expected to be there.

There are other position possibilities, but the Suns need front-line help, and the available crop could include long-armed defensive dynamo Bismack Biyombo of Congo, Kansas tough guy Markieff Morris, developing Texas 20-year-old Tristan Thompson and Morehead State rebounding fiend Kenneth Faried.

The Suns also could consider a guard. They might decide to continue the seven-year search for a point guard Steve Nash successor if BYU's Jimmer Fredette (if he gets past Utah at No. 12) or Connecticut's Kemba Walker are available. Or they could go for a potential scorer at shooting guard such as Washington State's Klay Thompson or Colorado's Alec Burks, who is working out in Phoenix on Monday. The Suns are wondering if he could be a combo guard at 6 feet 6.

In a filmed conversation for Fredette's YouTube channel, he said the Suns told him they want a forward or a point guard. His agent, Chris Emens, also said "there's a high degree of probability that their draft pick will come out of that workout," referring to Fredette's workout Monday in Phoenix with Thompson, Markieff and Marcus Morris and Florida State defensive-minded small forward Chris Singleton.

The Suns also could try to add a pick. They dealt their 2011 second-round pick in the Hakim Warrick sign-and-trade deal last year with Chicago.

"We are in constant conversation all day, every day with virtually every team in the league, trying to see if there's anything we need to get an additional pick or if there are other ways to improve our team," Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby said. "Like most of the conversations in the NBA, they usually don't come to fruition. We're trying to take everyone's temperature."

Since 2004, the Suns have traded or sold five first-round picks. Of the three first-round picks they kept, Alando Tucker and Earl Clark are gone and Robin Lopez no longer is considered unavailable on the trade market. This 13th pick would be their highest selection they kept since drafting Amar'e Stoudemire ninth in 2002.

"At some point, we have to get younger," Babby said. "We want to begin with the draft to infuse younger players into our team."

The draft has been criticized for being weak, particularly after four potential top-10 picks (North Carolina's Harrison Barnes, Baylor's Perry Jones, Ohio State's Jared Sullinger and Kentucky's Terrence Jones) elected to return to school, in part because of the threat of a NBA lockout starting July 1.

Suns General Manager Lance Blanks still believes there is parity in the draft. Adding a draft pick can only slightly improve the Suns, necessitating other moves to make them better next season while positioning for a bigger opportunity to improve next year.

"The 13th pick, we're excited to have it," Blanks said. "We feel like we can get a good player there and someone who will have the potential to help us, whether it's in the near term or long term."
Link

Sorry allen.
laugh.gif
Of course it's the Heat too.
The numbers on Reggie Jackson

The Heat are reportedly targeting Boston College point guard Reggie Jackson with the 31st pick in the 2011 draft. With Mike Bibby and Mario Chalmers both hitting free agency this summer, the Heat potentially have a large void at the point guard slot heading into next season.

What do we know about Jackson?

He's a 21-year-old hyper-efficient point guard who left Chestnut Hill after his junior year, in which he was selected first-team All-ACC. Recently, he shut down all his workouts after he underwent a minor knee procedure on May 17. He has great size for a point guard (6-foot-3, 208 pounds and a 7-foot wingspan). For reference, he is longer fingertip-to-fingertip than Dwyane Wade, John Wall, Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook.

First, his traditional per-game averages last season at Boston College: 18.2 points, 4.5 assists, 4.3 rebounds, 1.1 steals, and 2.4 turnovers; 50.3 field goal percentage, 42.0 3-point field goal percentage, 79.6 free throw percentage.

When looking at prospects, it's important to look beyond point totals, where Jackson excels, and focus on efficiency since they won't see nearly as many shots in the pro game. And Jackson shines there as well. The Heat need a guy who can spot up from downtown and capitalize on the few scoring opportunities he receives. Jackson scored 55.6 percent on 2s and, as listed above, shot considerably above average from beyond the arc and at the foul line.

If the Heat want an efficient point guard, Jackson's their guy. Jackson led the ACC in true shooting percentage (61.8 percent) which is a metric that incorporates 3-point shooting as well as free throw shooting. The last time a point guard led the ACC in true shooting percentage? Denver Nuggets starting point guard Ty Lawson in 2008-09 when he posted a 65.9 true shooting percentage for North Carolina. Ranking second that season was Jeff Teague, a combo guard from Wake Forest, who had his breakout performance in the playoffs this season for the Atlanta Hawks.

The 3-point shooting from Jackson is a recent development. During his first two years at Boston College, Jackson shot just 28.4 percent from downtown, which posed as a major drawback for his prospects as a future NBA player. But last season, he drilled 42 percent of his 169 3-pointers during his junior year. Statistically speaking, 3-point shooting in college has a stronger correlation to NBA 3-point shooting than regular field goal percentage.

Looking at his Synergy numbers, Jackson nailed 40 percent of his 88 catch-and-shoot jumpers, a shot he'll need to get used to if he plans on playing in Miami. Among the 45 players in the ACC who put up at least 50 such shots, Jackson's conversion rate ranked 18th. For reference, Chalmers shot 43 percent on his catch-and-shoot jumpers for Kansas during his NCAA championship season.

The Heat are a unique team in that they don't need a distributor at point guard so much as they need a knockdown shooter. Take the case of Mike Bibby this past season. The veteran point guard watched his assists per 36 minutes rate drop from 4.3 in Atlanta to 3.4 in a Miami uniform. Chalmers also experienced a similar dip in his assist numbers this season just by virtue of playing alongside two other ball distributors in Wade and LeBron James. If the Heat select a point guard, he'll be asked to hit shots more than create them for others.

With this in mind, Jackson's assist numbers at Boston College may seem underwhelming at 4.5 per game, but keep in mind that (A) NCAA games are shorter and (B) generally speaking, college players can't shoot a lick. Jackson actually ranked third in the ACC in the assist-per-game category. He also outranked fellow point guards Brandon Knight, Kyrie Irving and Jimmer Fredette in assist-to-turnover ratio.

Statistically, Jackson should hold great value for whoever selects him in the late first round or early second round. If the Heat can snag him at 31st, they may have found their backup point guard next season without spending a dollar in free agency.

Link
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Love or the number 2 for Gasol, not both. And I am not sure the wolves would have to give up much with either, I think they have a lot of cap space still.
 
Love or the number 2 for Gasol, not both. And I am not sure the wolves would have to give up much with either, I think they have a lot of cap space still.
 
Originally Posted by University of Nike

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

DevonNBA Devon Alexandre
by jose3030
Reports: The #Lakers and #TWolves both expressed interest in a Pau to Minnesota deal, but MIN not wanting to give up K.Love & No.2 pick.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

Kevin and the #2? So they'd do Kevin straight up for Pau?

If Kevin Love goes to the Lakers..............................

02e2619619a497bf8aa02ec8100bc1648ba007ff_r.gif


This would be
pimp.gif
for the Lakers K-Love and Brandon Knight!
 
Originally Posted by University of Nike

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

DevonNBA Devon Alexandre
by jose3030
Reports: The #Lakers and #TWolves both expressed interest in a Pau to Minnesota deal, but MIN not wanting to give up K.Love & No.2 pick.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

Kevin and the #2? So they'd do Kevin straight up for Pau?

If Kevin Love goes to the Lakers..............................

02e2619619a497bf8aa02ec8100bc1648ba007ff_r.gif


This would be
pimp.gif
for the Lakers K-Love and Brandon Knight!
 
Originally Posted by CAFinest23

Originally Posted by University of Nike

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Click to expand...

Kevin and the #2? So they'd do Kevin straight up for Pau?

If Kevin Love goes to the Lakers..............................

02e2619619a497bf8aa02ec8100bc1648ba007ff_r.gif
Click to expand...
This would be
pimp.gif
for the Lakers K-Love and Kyrie Irving Brandon Knight!
Click to expand...
Fixed. (if the reports are that Dan wants D-Will have validity)

And no way Pau gets traded for anything less than Love + no. 2 pick. I mean this is Kahn we're talking about here.
 
Originally Posted by CAFinest23

Originally Posted by University of Nike

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Click to expand...

Kevin and the #2? So they'd do Kevin straight up for Pau?

If Kevin Love goes to the Lakers..............................

02e2619619a497bf8aa02ec8100bc1648ba007ff_r.gif
Click to expand...
This would be
pimp.gif
for the Lakers K-Love and Kyrie Irving Brandon Knight!
Click to expand...
Fixed. (if the reports are that Dan wants D-Will have validity)

And no way Pau gets traded for anything less than Love + no. 2 pick. I mean this is Kahn we're talking about here.
 
No way they get both. Two all star caliber players under 25 for one on the tail end of his prime. 
grin.gif

I think this is brilliant on Kahn's part, at the very least you just raised the asking price for the pick with Gasol in the conversation- I actually think he does a much better job than given credit for. 
 
No way they get both. Two all star caliber players under 25 for one on the tail end of his prime. 
grin.gif

I think this is brilliant on Kahn's part, at the very least you just raised the asking price for the pick with Gasol in the conversation- I actually think he does a much better job than given credit for. 
 
No I was saying no way LA does this deal unless they get both.

If the Cavs do draft D-Will and Kyrie is sitting there for Minny, no way Kahn's guard happy !%$ doesn't take him. Then it'll be up to the highest bidder.

Also don't underestimate his thinking of the Pau/Rubio relationship.
 
No I was saying no way LA does this deal unless they get both.

If the Cavs do draft D-Will and Kyrie is sitting there for Minny, no way Kahn's guard happy !%$ doesn't take him. Then it'll be up to the highest bidder.

Also don't underestimate his thinking of the Pau/Rubio relationship.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

The ultimate sneaker enthusiast community.

NikeTalk was created as a way of giving back to both the sneaker enthusiast community and to the greater global community of which we are all a part.

NikeTalk is NOT affiliated with Nike Inc. in any way, shape, or form. All opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of Nike, Inc.

© 1999-2024 NikeTalk.com

Share this page

Back
Top Bottom