NBA Draft Thread 2011

[cafinest23]

If Kyrie is there I hope LA get him.

 

[cafinest23]

If Kyrie is there I hope LA get him.

 

[MVP]

What about Pau for #2/Beasley/Randolph or Wesley/Tolliver?

 

[MVP]

What about Pau for #2/Beasley/Randolph or Wesley/Tolliver?

 

[jpzx]

And no way Pau gets traded for anything less than Love + no. 2 pick. I mean this is Kahn we're talking about here.

Kahn makes GREAT trades. Get the @##@ out of here with that %+!$!%%!.

 

[jpzx]

And no way Pau gets traded for anything less than Love + no. 2 pick. I mean this is Kahn we're talking about here.

Kahn makes GREAT trades. Get the @##@ out of here with that %+!$!%%!.

 

[pmatic]

Stop with the Pau trades.

 

[pmatic]

Stop with the Pau trades.

 

[MVP]

Originally Posted by JPZx

And no way Pau gets traded for anything less than Love + no. 2 pick. I mean this is Kahn we're talking about here.

Kahn makes GREAT trades. Get the @##@ out of here with that %+!$!%%!.


Oh rly? What has he netted outside of a low payroll? Definitely not a winning or even competitive product on the floor. I'm sure he'll find a way to screw up again.

• June 24, 2009: Traded Randy Foye and Mike Miller to the Washington Wizards for Oleksiy Pecherov, Darius Songaila, Etan Thomas and a 2009 1st round draft pick (Ricky Rubio).
• June 24, 2009: Traded Ty Lawson to the Denver Nuggets for a 2010 1st round draft pick (Luke Babbitt).
• June 25, 2009: Selected Ricky Rubio (1st round, 5th pick), Jonny Flynn (1st round, 6th pick), Ty Lawson (1st round, 18th pick), Wayne Ellington (1st round, 28th pick), Nick Calathes (2nd round, 45th pick) and Henk Norel (2nd round, 47th pick) in the 2009 NBA Draft.
• June 25, 2009: Traded Nick Calathes to the Dallas Mavericks for a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Magnum Rolle).
• July 20, 2009: Traded Mark Madsen, Craig Smith and Sebastian Telfair to the Los Angeles Clippers for Quentin Richardson.
• July 27, 2009: Traded Etan Thomas, a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Dexter Pittman) and a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Magnum Rolle) to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Chucky Atkins and Damien Wilkins.
• August 11, 2009: Signed Ryan Hollins as a free agent.
• August 13, 2009: Traded Quentin Richardson to the Miami Heat for Mark Blount.
• September 9, 2009: Traded Bobby Brown and Darius Songaila to the New Orleans Hornets for Antonio Daniels.
• September 14, 2009: Signed Ramon Sessions as a free agent.
• September 17, 2009: Signed Sasha Pavlovic as a free agent.
• September 28, 2009: Signed Jason Hart as a free agent.
• September 28, 2009: Signed Alonzo Gee as a free agent.
• October 20, 2009: Traded a 2012 2nd round draft pick to the Dallas Mavericks for Nathan Jawai.
• December 29, 2009: Traded Jason Hart to the Phoenix Suns for Alando Tucker, cash and a future 2nd round draft pick.
• February 17, 2010: Traded Brian Cardinal to the New York Knickerbockers for Darko Milicic and cash.
• March 23, 2010: Signed Brian Cardinal as a free agent.
• April 13, 2010: Signed Greg Stiemsma as a free agent.
• June 24, 2010: Selected Wesley Johnson (1st round, 4th pick), Luke Babbitt (1st round, 16th pick), Trevor Booker (1st round, 23rd pick), Paulao Prestes (2nd round, 45th pick) and Hamady N'Diaye (2nd round, 56th pick) in the 2010 NBA Draft.
• June 24, 2010: Traded Luke Babbitt and Ryan Gomes to the Portland Trail Blazers for Martell Webster.
• June 24, 2010: Traded Trevor Booker and Hamady N'Diaye to the Washington Wizards for Lazar Hayward and Nemanja Bjelica.
• July 12, 2010: Traded cash, a 2011 2nd round draft pick and a 2014 2nd round draft pick to the Miami Heat for Michael Beasley.
• July 13, 2010: Traded Al Jefferson to the Utah Jazz for Kosta Koufos, a future 1st round draft pick and a future 1st round draft pick.
• July 21, 2010: Signed Luke Ridnour as a free agent.
• July 26, 2010: Traded Ryan Hollins, Ramon Sessions and a future 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Sebastian Telfair and Delonte West.
• August 9, 2010: Signed Anthony Tolliver as a free agent.
• September 24, 2010: Signed Maurice Ager as a free agent.
• September 24, 2010: Signed Jason Hart as a free agent.
• November 12, 2010: Signed Sundiata Gaines as a free agent.
• February 22, 2011: As part of a 3-team trade, the Minnesota Timberwolves traded Corey Brewer to the New York Knickerbockers; the Minnesota Timberwolves traded Kosta Koufos to the Denver Nuggets; the Denver Nuggets traded a 2015 2nd round draft pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves; the Denver Nuggets traded Carmelo Anthony, Renaldo Balkman, Chauncey Billups, Anthony Carter and Shelden Williams to the New York Knickerbockers; the New York Knickerbockers traded Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, cash, a 2012 2nd round draft pick, a 2013 2nd round draft pick and a 2014 1st round draft pick to the Denver Nuggets; and the New York Knickerbockers traded Eddy Curry, Anthony Randolph and cash to the Minnesota Timberwolves

 

[MVP]

Originally Posted by JPZx

And no way Pau gets traded for anything less than Love + no. 2 pick. I mean this is Kahn we're talking about here.

Kahn makes GREAT trades. Get the @##@ out of here with that %+!$!%%!.


Oh rly? What has he netted outside of a low payroll? Definitely not a winning or even competitive product on the floor. I'm sure he'll find a way to screw up again.

• June 24, 2009: Traded Randy Foye and Mike Miller to the Washington Wizards for Oleksiy Pecherov, Darius Songaila, Etan Thomas and a 2009 1st round draft pick (Ricky Rubio).
• June 24, 2009: Traded Ty Lawson to the Denver Nuggets for a 2010 1st round draft pick (Luke Babbitt).
• June 25, 2009: Selected Ricky Rubio (1st round, 5th pick), Jonny Flynn (1st round, 6th pick), Ty Lawson (1st round, 18th pick), Wayne Ellington (1st round, 28th pick), Nick Calathes (2nd round, 45th pick) and Henk Norel (2nd round, 47th pick) in the 2009 NBA Draft.
• June 25, 2009: Traded Nick Calathes to the Dallas Mavericks for a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Magnum Rolle).
• July 20, 2009: Traded Mark Madsen, Craig Smith and Sebastian Telfair to the Los Angeles Clippers for Quentin Richardson.
• July 27, 2009: Traded Etan Thomas, a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Dexter Pittman) and a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Magnum Rolle) to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Chucky Atkins and Damien Wilkins.
• August 11, 2009: Signed Ryan Hollins as a free agent.
• August 13, 2009: Traded Quentin Richardson to the Miami Heat for Mark Blount.
• September 9, 2009: Traded Bobby Brown and Darius Songaila to the New Orleans Hornets for Antonio Daniels.
• September 14, 2009: Signed Ramon Sessions as a free agent.
• September 17, 2009: Signed Sasha Pavlovic as a free agent.
• September 28, 2009: Signed Jason Hart as a free agent.
• September 28, 2009: Signed Alonzo Gee as a free agent.
• October 20, 2009: Traded a 2012 2nd round draft pick to the Dallas Mavericks for Nathan Jawai.
• December 29, 2009: Traded Jason Hart to the Phoenix Suns for Alando Tucker, cash and a future 2nd round draft pick.
• February 17, 2010: Traded Brian Cardinal to the New York Knickerbockers for Darko Milicic and cash.
• March 23, 2010: Signed Brian Cardinal as a free agent.
• April 13, 2010: Signed Greg Stiemsma as a free agent.
• June 24, 2010: Selected Wesley Johnson (1st round, 4th pick), Luke Babbitt (1st round, 16th pick), Trevor Booker (1st round, 23rd pick), Paulao Prestes (2nd round, 45th pick) and Hamady N'Diaye (2nd round, 56th pick) in the 2010 NBA Draft.
• June 24, 2010: Traded Luke Babbitt and Ryan Gomes to the Portland Trail Blazers for Martell Webster.
• June 24, 2010: Traded Trevor Booker and Hamady N'Diaye to the Washington Wizards for Lazar Hayward and Nemanja Bjelica.
• July 12, 2010: Traded cash, a 2011 2nd round draft pick and a 2014 2nd round draft pick to the Miami Heat for Michael Beasley.
• July 13, 2010: Traded Al Jefferson to the Utah Jazz for Kosta Koufos, a future 1st round draft pick and a future 1st round draft pick.
• July 21, 2010: Signed Luke Ridnour as a free agent.
• July 26, 2010: Traded Ryan Hollins, Ramon Sessions and a future 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Sebastian Telfair and Delonte West.
• August 9, 2010: Signed Anthony Tolliver as a free agent.
• September 24, 2010: Signed Maurice Ager as a free agent.
• September 24, 2010: Signed Jason Hart as a free agent.
• November 12, 2010: Signed Sundiata Gaines as a free agent.
• February 22, 2011: As part of a 3-team trade, the Minnesota Timberwolves traded Corey Brewer to the New York Knickerbockers; the Minnesota Timberwolves traded Kosta Koufos to the Denver Nuggets; the Denver Nuggets traded a 2015 2nd round draft pick to the Minnesota Timberwolves; the Denver Nuggets traded Carmelo Anthony, Renaldo Balkman, Chauncey Billups, Anthony Carter and Shelden Williams to the New York Knickerbockers; the New York Knickerbockers traded Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, cash, a 2012 2nd round draft pick, a 2013 2nd round draft pick and a 2014 1st round draft pick to the Denver Nuggets; and the New York Knickerbockers traded Eddy Curry, Anthony Randolph and cash to the Minnesota Timberwolves

 

[nicedudewithnicedreams]

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

I can't speak on Jan but a player that can defend, rebound and beeffective without having to dominant the ball like Kawhi makes sensewith Evans, Cousins and a re-signed Thornton on the team. I can't saythe say for Kemba or Jimmer.

Exactly. I've been wondering for months why everybody expects them to take a guard.

Obviously, Beno Udrih isn't the long-term answer at point guard, but I still don't see it being their biggest need. Evans, Thornton, Cousins and Kemba/Jimmer sounds fun on paper, but let's get real.

Kings fans want Jimmer or Kemba.

The Kings should have a back-up trade plan...

Poor man's Gerald Wallace just shows how weak this draft is. Smh. Stop it with the hype.

 

[nicedudewithnicedreams]

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

I can't speak on Jan but a player that can defend, rebound and beeffective without having to dominant the ball like Kawhi makes sensewith Evans, Cousins and a re-signed Thornton on the team. I can't saythe say for Kemba or Jimmer.

Exactly. I've been wondering for months why everybody expects them to take a guard.

Obviously, Beno Udrih isn't the long-term answer at point guard, but I still don't see it being their biggest need. Evans, Thornton, Cousins and Kemba/Jimmer sounds fun on paper, but let's get real.

Kings fans want Jimmer or Kemba.

The Kings should have a back-up trade plan...

Poor man's Gerald Wallace just shows how weak this draft is. Smh. Stop it with the hype.

 

[jpzx]

I would love you to read what you just posted, and name me one bad trade in there.

 

[jpzx]

I would love you to read what you just posted, and name me one bad trade in there.

 

[MVP]

I don't even think a lot of those guys are still in the league, so some of them have to be bad to lateral moves. He just seems to make a lot of moves just to make them with no end goal of really improving the team in mind.

• July 20, 2009: Traded Mark Madsen, Craig Smith and Sebastian Telfair to the Los Angeles Clippers for Quentin Richardson.
• July 27, 2009: Traded Etan Thomas, a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Dexter Pittman) and a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Magnum Rolle) to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Chucky Atkins and Damien Wilkins.
• July 26, 2010: Traded Ryan Hollins, Ramon Sessions and a future 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Sebastian Telfair and Delonte West.I mean what's the purpose of doing this? They don't get better as a team, just shed payroll.

What are the purposes of these trades besides shedding payroll? Trading players just to get them back later? Mickey Mouse operations up there in Minny.

And he better pray Rubio doesn't turn out to be a bum...

*shrugs*

 

[MVP]

I don't even think a lot of those guys are still in the league, so some of them have to be bad to lateral moves. He just seems to make a lot of moves just to make them with no end goal of really improving the team in mind.

• July 20, 2009: Traded Mark Madsen, Craig Smith and Sebastian Telfair to the Los Angeles Clippers for Quentin Richardson.
• July 27, 2009: Traded Etan Thomas, a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Dexter Pittman) and a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Magnum Rolle) to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Chucky Atkins and Damien Wilkins.
• July 26, 2010: Traded Ryan Hollins, Ramon Sessions and a future 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Sebastian Telfair and Delonte West.I mean what's the purpose of doing this? They don't get better as a team, just shed payroll.

What are the purposes of these trades besides shedding payroll? Trading players just to get them back later? Mickey Mouse operations up there in Minny.

And he better pray Rubio doesn't turn out to be a bum...

*shrugs*

 

[pmatic]

 

[pmatic]

 

[ValarMorghulis]

Kahn has made 2 good moves...
getting Mike Beasley for nothing and getting Martell Webster

Rick and Wes are still a ?'s IMO

 

[ValarMorghulis]

Kahn has made 2 good moves...
getting Mike Beasley for nothing and getting Martell Webster

Rick and Wes are still a ?'s IMO

 

[jpzx]

Originally Posted by Mamba MVP

• July 20, 2009: Traded Mark Madsen, Craig Smith and Sebastian Telfair to the Los Angeles Clippers for Quentin Richardson.
• July 27, 2009: Traded Etan Thomas, a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Dexter Pittman) and a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Magnum Rolle) to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Chucky Atkins and Damien Wilkins.
• July 26, 2010: Traded Ryan Hollins, Ramon Sessions and a future 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Sebastian Telfair and Delonte West.I mean what's the purpose of doing this? They don't get better as a team, just shed payroll.

What are the purposes of these trades besides shedding payroll? Trading players just to get them back later?

Ummm... you cannot have a shot at making good moves until you clear cap space. In 2009 when he was hired, Kahn was given the reigns to a franchise that could only be described as an absolute train wreck when it came to salaries. Besides, what could Mark Madsen, Craig Smith, Sebastian Telfair, Etan Thomas, Ryan Hollins and Ramon Sessions done for this club if they had kept them?

That's right. Nothing.

Kahn has made 2 good moves...
getting Mike Beasley for nothing and getting Martell Webster

More than just that.

Receiving Darko Milicic for Brian Cardinal.
Receiving Anthony Randolph for Corey Brewer.
Receiving Michael Beasley for two second rounders.
Receiving Martell Webster for Luke Babbitt.
Receiving Ricky Rubio for Randy Foye/Mike Miller.

Those are Kahn's five trades since he has held the Timberwolves GM position (not involving irrelevant cap space trades). And not in even ONE of those trades did the Timberwolves not come out on the better end.

You can belittle David Kahn's drafting skills all you want... but trades? He's superb when it comes to that. So to say that the Lakers can get some unfair return for giving up Pau Gasol is absolute blasphemy.

 

[jpzx]

Originally Posted by Mamba MVP

• July 20, 2009: Traded Mark Madsen, Craig Smith and Sebastian Telfair to the Los Angeles Clippers for Quentin Richardson.
• July 27, 2009: Traded Etan Thomas, a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Dexter Pittman) and a 2010 2nd round draft pick (Magnum Rolle) to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Chucky Atkins and Damien Wilkins.
• July 26, 2010: Traded Ryan Hollins, Ramon Sessions and a future 2nd round draft pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Sebastian Telfair and Delonte West.I mean what's the purpose of doing this? They don't get better as a team, just shed payroll.

What are the purposes of these trades besides shedding payroll? Trading players just to get them back later?

Ummm... you cannot have a shot at making good moves until you clear cap space. In 2009 when he was hired, Kahn was given the reigns to a franchise that could only be described as an absolute train wreck when it came to salaries. Besides, what could Mark Madsen, Craig Smith, Sebastian Telfair, Etan Thomas, Ryan Hollins and Ramon Sessions done for this club if they had kept them?

That's right. Nothing.

Kahn has made 2 good moves...
getting Mike Beasley for nothing and getting Martell Webster

More than just that.

Receiving Darko Milicic for Brian Cardinal.
Receiving Anthony Randolph for Corey Brewer.
Receiving Michael Beasley for two second rounders.
Receiving Martell Webster for Luke Babbitt.
Receiving Ricky Rubio for Randy Foye/Mike Miller.

Those are Kahn's five trades since he has held the Timberwolves GM position (not involving irrelevant cap space trades). And not in even ONE of those trades did the Timberwolves not come out on the better end.

You can belittle David Kahn's drafting skills all you want... but trades? He's superb when it comes to that. So to say that the Lakers can get some unfair return for giving up Pau Gasol is absolute blasphemy.

 

[finallyfamous]

Originally Posted by JPZx

What does JJ Hickson do for the Timberwolves?

I don't even know what Hickson does for the Cavs...

 

[finallyfamous]

Originally Posted by JPZx

What does JJ Hickson do for the Timberwolves?

I don't even know what Hickson does for the Cavs...

 

[airmaxbuckeye]

Originally Posted by FinallyFamous

Originally Posted by JPZx

What does JJ Hickson do for the Timberwolves?

I don't even know what Hickson does for the Cavs...