- 7,884
- 2,014
Warriors got a nice little bye next round. Rest kd, and don’t even let Demarcus come back till the finals. Bucks will be a nice little test, but it’ll be warriors in 6 for the 3 peat and last 3 of 4 
**NBA FINALS THREAD - RAPTORS DEFY GRAVITY**
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by HIM,
- Start date
- 11,930
- 15,885
I agree with you. Only barbershop boys argue against the negative perception of "analytics." Yeah the margin of error was exceptionally thin this series. In fact the gap was even smaller this year than last year.
I'm not making any excuses still though. I know GS has 3 all-stars even with KD out and we just have Harden and a bunch of role players but I'm not making any excuses. Talent or not, we still choked.
- 23,961
- 15,711
I see Bucks as the arguable #2, but the Rockets are better better than the Sixers and Toronto and they're definitely above the Nuggets and Portland.
Bend_The_Knee
formerly gotholesinmysocks
- 61,806
- 23,553
- 22,094
- 9,980
Disagree I think for the first time in a long time the east is better then the west at the top. Even with KD I have warriors losing to whoever comes out the east .
Rockets aren't that good. People overhyping them because of last year .
Rockets aren't that good. People overhyping them because of last year .
- 82,758
- 118,232
You missing the point. Y'all get so offended and "OMG you hate analytics"
What the Rockets do and what the Warriors and Bucks do ain't the same.
- 24,060
- 23,177
Is it not? Both the bucks and rockets have superior players.
- 11,930
- 15,885
The style of play isn't the same but the analytics is WHY they play the way they do. And the Bucks and Rockets do the exact same thing, they just have to build their offenses and execute differently because of who they have. That's literally analytics. Your word usage may just be the wrong choice.
FWIW, if I wanted to be optimistic, I think the Rockets can win playing this style, but this pedantic, iso offense needs to be sped up for sure. Our pace is way too low which leaves little margin for error. Think of the Tony Bennett UVA Cavaliers before they won this year.
The criticism and slander is warranted, there's probably just different ways to go about it IMO
- 67,763
- 78,908
#Influence.
- 23,961
- 15,711
Toronto flip-flops too often and the Sixers are good but they play below their talent level and lack depth. Bucks are solid and they can compete with anyone. Agree to disagree.
- 2,130
- 1,871
Harden's threes definitely play a big role in that higher TS%...especially since MJ and Wade were never launching up a ton and today's era is all about the three ball.
If we're talking TS% though, Harden also has the biggest dropoff from regular season to playoffs:
Harden
Reg season - 60.9%
Playoffs - 57.9%
Kobe
Reg season - 55%
Playoffs - 54.1%
Wade
Reg season - 55.4%
Playoffs - 54.9%
MJ
Reg season - 56.9%
Playoffs - 56.8%
So a 3% dropoff is a lot, especially for a player whose usage rate is so high. I could probably dive into it even more (not include his OKC stats, leave out Kobe's seasons with Shaq and Wade with LeBron) to see what those % look like but that's enough number crunching for me on a Friday night
- 82,758
- 118,232
Klay really a frat white boy when he celebrates.
If you think this style of play can work when it hasn't over and over I don't know what to say.
They're led by a player that relies on step back 3's, refs falling for his flops, no defense and he's terrible off the ball.
If you think this style of play can work when it hasn't over and over I don't know what to say.
They're led by a player that relies on step back 3's, refs falling for his flops, no defense and he's terrible off the ball.
- 151,163
- 202,578
- 2,756
- 3,195
- 22,262
- 11,072
I don't think it takes that much analytics to surround the best paint player since Shaq with 4 shooters.
- 82,758
- 118,232
The Bucks are literally an analytic dude’s fantasy
Cool, and...
I'm still talking about the Rockets style of play.
- 24,441
- 22,120
What a rewarding night
- 11,930
- 15,885
Not this specific style. I think you definitely have to tinker with it. But to completely revamp it considering the roster and cap limits seems unreasonable, which is why I mentioned pace. I think it's easy to say that but people never have a solution. I'm 100% NOT saying they need to go into next season playing the EXACT same way. But the analytics got them this close. No other team has won this many games against the KD Warriors. They've exhausted their strategy with the talent they have, but changes will need to be made.Klay really a frat white boy when he celebrates.
If you think this style of play can work when it hasn't over and over I don't know what to say.
They're led by a player that relies on step back 3's, refs falling for his flops, no defense and he's terrible off the ball.
Harden will get rightfully criticized, as all stars should, but overall he was effective and better this playoffs than last despite playing with less help and against top defenses. The Harden no defense thing needs to die. He does need to get better at playing off ball for sure.
That's just being reasonable and optimistic tho. We ******* stink.
Last edited:
- 28,106
- 9,248
moe200069
Supporter
- 24,623
- 43,661
- 16,413
- 8,760
BOOGIEEEEE
- 82,758
- 118,232
Dude plays defense every blue moon and people give him a pat on the back for that. He's still a bad and lazy defender.
- 7,339
- 12,146
I’m pulling for Milwaukee but I think Warriors pull it out again...next season is when their reign is over
Hope y’all having a good night
Hope y’all having a good night
- 22,262
- 11,072
Boogie and KD healthy and it's a wrap but we knew that in July
- 73,550
- 100,524
Hang this post in the NBA thread rafters
