NBA Off-Season News Thread: Roy extends 80/5, AI to Grizz, Chandler/Okafor swap, Marquis to C's.

dont even think Bayless needs development, he just needs time....might as well trade him now.

Havent been this hype for a basketball season in a while...cant wait.
 
Glad to see we got Moon. GREAT job by Ferry adding size this offseason while maintaining the 66 win core. It KILLED us vs LA and ORL



Wonder if this means MIA will be landing Odom
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Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Originally Posted by JONFARR

Originally Posted by Lizaker4Lizife

portland is stacked

this should be the year they break into the Top 3-4 in the West
Were they not the 4th seed in the West this last year and tied for the SECOND best record in the West?
They still wouldn't win in a match-up with three other teams in the West NOT named the Mavericks.

(Denver, San Antonio, and Lakers).
They split the season series with all three of those teams 2-2, except for San Antonio, who they were 3-1 against. The Lakers are better than theBlazers, but Portland is definitely on-par with SA and DEN. Portland won 54 games last year playing 4 rookies significant minutes. With Miller and everyone ayear older, as well as Aldridge and Roy entering their 4th year, it's not out of reach to expect this team to win 57-60 games next year. They candefinitely match up with anyone in the west outside of LA.
 
Originally Posted by EzFlash26

dont even think Bayless needs development, he just needs time....might as well trade him now.

Havent been this hype for a basketball season in a while...cant wait.

I agree with both statements.

Bayless is turning into the classic "he lost his confidence and was never really the same" type of player.
 
Originally Posted by Travis Outlaw

They split the season series with all three of those teams 2-2, except for San Antonio, who they were 3-1 against. The Lakers are better than the Blazers, but Portland is definitely on-par with SA and DEN. Portland won 54 games last year playing 4 rookies significant minutes. With Miller and everyone a year older, as well as Aldridge and Roy entering their 4th year, it's not out of reach to expect this team to win 57-60 games next year. They can definitely match up with anyone in the west outside of LA.

Man, %$%* LA. They can't even hold the Blazers jock. Team ain't foolin no one.
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I hope they know I'm kidding, but I'm sure some idiot Lakers fan will quote me.
 
I like that the Blazers got a PG instead of a bigman, but this still doesn't get them over the top. I think they still need a serviceable big though.
 
MIAMI(AP) -- Restricted free-agent forward Jamario Moon is joining the Cleveland Cavaliers.

The Miami Heat said Friday they had decided not to match the offer sheet Moon signed with Cleveland. Moon finished last season with Miami.

The Cavaliers had roughly $3.2 million of its midlevel exception to sign the 6-foot-8 Moon.

"We declined to match because we want to stay true to our plan of not adding salary to our 2010 cap, and matching it would have reduced our flexibility," Heat president Pat Riley said in a statement. "Michael Beasley will be getting significant minutes at both forward positions, and this opens up more opportunities for him to become the player we all expect him to be."

Beasley was the second overall pick in the 2008 draft.

Moon joins a Cavaliers team that has been overhauled this offseason with the additions of All-Star center Shaquille O'Neal and free agent Anthony Parker.

"Jamario is going to bring versatility and a high level of athleticism to our team," Cavaliers general manager Danny Ferry said. "He should be a very good fit to our current roster. We are very happy to have him with us."

The Heat's decision regarding Moon also gives them more flexibility this offseason. They have been courting free-agent forward Lamar Odom, and they've been linked to a potential trade involving Utah forward Carlos Boozer.

Moon and Jermaine O'Neal were acquired by the Heat from Toronto in February for Shawn Marion and Marcus Banks. Moon, regarded as a good defender, appeared in 80 games last season, with 60 starts, and averaged 7.2 points, 4.6 rebounds and 26 minutes. He led the NBA in steals-to-turnover ratio at 2.00.
 
Grizzlies shooting guard O.J. Mayo has made no secret about his desire to eventually be moved to point guard. To that end, Mayo says he spent the summer at USC working with Memphis assistant coaches Johnny Davis and Henry Bibby on point guard skills. While Mayo says he worked on every facet of his game, improving his ball handling was his top priority.

"I got there in mid-May and haven't stopped," said Mayo.

Mayo also took some time in early July to work on strength and conditioning with trainer Tim Grover and had a chance to run drills with All-Star point guards Devin Harris and Gilbert Arenas.

"Being able to pick their brains was a blessing to me," said Mayo.
On one hand I can see Juice becoming a quality PG but on the other hand I can see it being a disaster/setback.

It will take a lot for the Grizzlies to move Juice to PG though since Coach Hollins loves Conley.
 
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Paging bhz.

Memphis withdraws qualifing offer to Hakim Warrick, making him a unrestricted FA

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It doesn't surprise me. Memphis is making room on the roster to make a few more deals or signing.

Did any Portland fans hear about a possibly deal that would've seen Outlaw to Memphis for a pick? The deal would've been made supposedly if Utahdidn't match the offer for Millsap. Now, that Portland has money going towards Miller the deal still may happen. And the other day Heisley said Hak was inthe future plans. Why wouldn't we want Warrick to play for the qualifying offer for one more year? He's a bargain for his contract. So, some deal hasto be in place possibly.
On one hand I can see Juice becoming a quality PG but on the other hand I can see it being a disaster/setback.

It will take a lot for the Grizzlies to move Juice to PG though since Coach Hollins loves Conley.

I think OJ was working on his ball handling moreso for down the stretch situations. He will more than likely have the ball in his hands most of the time andhe would need to have good ball-handling skills at the least. At this point Memphis isn't moving Conley anywhere from what I've heard.
 
Originally Posted by diew its james

does this mean that steve blake coming off the bench will make bayless get less play time?

It shouldn't. Sergio is gone, and Bayless was playing behind him last year. I just want Portland to move Bayless to SG and play him behind Roy.
 
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Knicks president Donnie Walsh has had advanced discussions with Von Wafer, according to the guard's agent.


Wafer averaged 9.7 points last season, and actually played for New York's summer league team in 2008.

A source claims that the two parties are trying to arrange a visit to New York. Walsh is reportedly interested in giving Wafer a one-year deal worth the biannual exception.

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The Raptors have agreed in principle to a one-year deal with free-agent center Rasho Nesterovic, according to sources.


The contract is worth the biannual exception, roughly $1.9 million.

Via ESPN
 
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Jul 24, 2009 7:58 AM EST

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Knicks president Donnie Walsh has had advanced discussions with Von Wafer, according to the guard's agent.


Wafer averaged 9.7 points last season, and actually played for New York's summer league team in 2008.

A source claims that the two parties are trying to arrange a visit to New York. Walsh is reportedly interested in giving Wafer a one-year deal worth the biannual exception.

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The Raptors have agreed in principle to a one-year deal with free-agent center Rasho Nesterovic, according to sources.


The contract is worth the biannual exception, roughly $1.9 million.

Via ESPN

Knicks making weak moves....

Nesterovic signing pretty much means Big Ben is heading back to Motown
 
Nice signing by Portland, they finally got their PG. I really hope Iverson goes to Miami. I would love to see him and Wade in the same back-court from time totime.
 
[h2]Would Boozer and Odom help Heat?[/h2]
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D-Wade led a young squad to the playoffs last season. What could he do alongside Odom and Boozer?

Despite having no cap space, pushing up against the luxury tax and seemingly wanting to save most of their dough for next summer's free-agent run, the Miami Heat, against all odds, have become one of the offseason's most interesting teams.

Two players in particular have been linked to the Heat: Utah's Carlos Boozer and the Lakers' Lamar Odom. It's possible the Heat could add both of them, if they can use their full midlevel exception to get Odom and then trade some of their expiring contracts for Boozer.

It's also possible they could get neither of them, but what's the fun in that? This is the offseason. Let's dare to dream.

The question then becomes how much better Boozer and/or Odom would make the Heat.

Our initial instinct is to think getting one or both would help quite a bit. The Heat are basically just Dwyanehttp://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1987 Wade and a bunch of filler, right? Adding another star would theoretically move them several notches up the ladder. Adding two? That could put them in the East's upper crust.

Subject those assumptions to some deeper scrutiny, however, and the conclusion is a little different.

An incoming player affects a team by replacing another player. In Miami's case, the two weakest starting positions this past season were small forward and point guard. So, upgrades at those two positions would generate the greatest impact, because the Heat would be replacing weak players with strong ones.

Conversely, upgrading the frontcourt wouldn't help as much, because the Heat already were pretty decent there. And they project to be a lot better this coming season, at power forward in particular.

This past season, as a rookie, Michael Beasley averaged 22.4 points per 40 minutes. He played only 24 minutes a game, which limited his per-game averages, but he put up a solid 17.28 player efficiency rating in his first pro season.

That's exactly the same PER Boozer recorded. And since neither of these guys will be on the court for his defense, measuring their statistical impact is an appropriate way to compare them.

When we do that using this past season's numbers, we find that upgrading from Beasley to Boozer has no impact whatsoever. None. Zero. One might argue that Boozer likely would play better this coming season given his previous stats; I would answer that Beasley, who will start the season at just 20 years old, is highly likely to improve on his Year 1 numbers. Additionally, he's far more likely than Boozer to participate in most or all of the 82-game schedule.

As for Odom, he probably could make a bigger impact on D than Beasley, but his 16.60 PER in 2008-09 was worse than Beasley's, and since he turns 30 later this year, and has been between 16.20 and 17.31 each of the past five seasons, he doesn't figure to improve any in 2009-10.

So we reach the same conclusion: Importing Odom doesn't project to be an upgrade on Beasley. Importing either Boozer or Odom might help the depth situation, but it wouldn't improve the starting five, so it's tough for such a move to have more than a minor effect on the Heat's projected win-loss record.

Similarly, if Miami got Boozer and Odom together, there'd be little gained by the second acquisition, unless Odom moved to small forward. Admittedly, there's a glaring hole at the position, but Odom would lose much of his effectiveness by moving out to the 3 -- at this point in his career, with the way the league has gone and with his shaky long-range shooting, he basically is a pure 4.

Finally, one has to remember that trading for Boozer wouldn't be free. We don't know exactly what the Heat would give up, but it would be something, and it might weaken them enough at the other positions that it would end up being of no benefit at all. For one example, this trade I concocted gets them Boozer yet makes them a game worse, based on the model I developed.

Despite all this, there is one way the Heat could add Boozer and Odom, and still improve substantially. That would be if they traded Beasley, too. If Miami could parlay its young forward into an upgrade on the perimeter that provided Wade some quality help, that would change the picture for Miami in a much larger way.

For another example, I created this trade that's exactly like the first one, except in addition to the Boozer deal, it sends Beasley to Boston for Rajonhttp://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3026 Rondo. This is a completely hypothetical example. (Let me emphasize: This is a fictional trade concocted to demonstrate a concept.) This shows how much greater the impact would be if the Heat were to add a quality player at point guard instead of at power forward -- in this example, such a trade added seven wins to the Heat's bottom line.

In other words, a move for Boozer and Odom could help the Heat, but not in isolation. Adding a power forward would be redundant with the talent that already exists -- talent that, ironically, represents Miami's best chance to get better with the current roster.

So if the Heat aren't willing to trade Beasley or can't trade him to get back a high-quality player on the perimeter, it seems futile for them to expect a big boost from Odom and/or Boozer. Acquiring one or even both of them would change the Heat's outlook much less than one might think.


Courtesy of Ska. Nice stat(s) for Beasley.........imagine if he did get atleast 40 mins per game
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Originally Posted by diew its james

does this mean that steve blake coming off the bench will make bayless get less play time?

It shouldn't. Sergio is gone, and Bayless was playing behind him last year. I just want Portland to move Bayless to SG and play him behind Roy.
bayless would have to beat out fernandez to be the backup SG. rudy is still young and he didnt even get a chance to really show his playmakingskills..
 
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