NBA Predraft Camp Orlando 2008

[juicy j 32]

DeMarcus Nelson has done well in the first parts of this game today....

Apparently Danny sprained his ankle 3 weeks ago and tweaked it again today. He went 3-10 from the field and was getting beat off the dribble playing SG.... andhe wonders why Roy didn't consult any NBA GMs or Player Personnel people like he did for Ty, Wayne, and Tyler. Bear Stern had a higher stock value than DG

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EDIT- Oh yeah I forgot to say that Wayne played like garbage. Dude air balled his first shot and was bricking most of the other ones he took.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Originally Posted by Juicy J 32

DeMarcus Nelson has done well in the first parts of this game today....

Apparently Danny sprained his ankle 3 weeks ago and tweaked it again today. He went 3-10 from the field and was getting beat off the dribble playing SG.... and he wonders why Roy didn't consult any NBA GMs or Player Personnel people like he did for Ty, Wayne, and Tyler. Bear Stern had a higher stock value than DG

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Take your %%@ back to school Danny...

 

[bballah3]

Holy !#!* this is terrible to watch.

 

[ricardo malta]

Holy !#!* this is terrible to watch.
Put me to sleep which is good cause I needed a nap anyways.

Search youtube for that deron washington put back tho. I swear Lavin and Gottlieb skeeted on each others chests when he yoked it

 

[irishvic]

When are official measurements?

 

[al3xis]

Pat playin well

 

[manamazing55]

'What is a guaranteed 2nd round contract? He want's someone to guarantee that he will be a 2nd round pick? What type of ******ed +@#+ isthat'?"


Its called wanting to get paid regardless of where you are drafted.

It has happened before though.......a team essentially promises to draft you at a certain spot in the 2nd round. Danny seems to be fine with that.

 

[al3xis]

2nd rounders are not guaranteed anything tho...

 

[manamazing55]

^
not theoretically, but they CAN be,,,

Second Round Picks
Players chosen in the second round can be signed to a variety of contracts, but almost all of them will be for the rookie minimum salary of $385,277. Thismeans that if the contract is guaranteed for the whole season, the most he can earn is $385,277. The type of contracts can vary greatly. Some of the morecommon 2nd round contracts are:


Non-Guaranteed Contract: the player is no longer paid once he is cut. If he is cut before the season starts, he doesn't get paid
Partially Guaranteed Contract: a small amount is guaranteed so that even if the player is cut before the season starts, he can still walk with some earnings.Any amount above the guaranteed amount has to be earned by remaining on the roster.
Make Good Contract: usually refers to a contract that is guaranteed if the player is on the roster on opening day.
Most second round draft picks are signed with a team option for a second year. If the player makes it through his rookie season without getting cut, the teamwill be able to decide whether they want to bring him back for another year at the 1 year veteran's minimum.

 

[wildkycat]

anyone know who scored the most points on the day?

 

[i wear sneakers]

word is lawson was doin' his thing?

and damn, danny.
just go back to school and try and get that chip.

 

[ogbobbyjohnson773]

Originally Posted by irishvic

When are official measurements?

 

[juicy j 32]

Lawson balled up yesterday. He looked like the best player on the court from the two games I watched.

I think coverage starts at 12 today on NBA TV...

 

[blackredxiiigoat]

My bad...for some reason I thought unless they withdrew their names by the start of predraft camp, they had to stay in...smh at myself...

DG should go back, and (even before yesterday) I think Ellington should too...Law could do eitheror but if he stays in, he should be fine...

 

[dyyhard]

Former NBA guard Kenny Anderson wants back in the game - as a coach

15 hours ago

KISSIMMEE, Fla. - Kenny Anderson was back on an NBA bench Wednesday, wearing a collared shirt and holding a notebook.

At 37, his playing days are over. He hopes his coaching days are just beginning. The former NBA guard and New York City high school great is an assistant coachthis week for one of the six teams at the league's pre-draft camp at the Disney complex near Orlando. Just like the players he's coaching, Anderson istrying to catch the eye of NBA coaches and executives, looking to parlay this week's exposure into a job at the next level.

"I love being on the sideline," Anderson said. "I'm playing through them. I've got to calm down every now and then and remember thatI'm in coaching now. I love it."

Anderson was the coach of a CBA franchise in Atlanta this past season, plus works with an elite AAU team in South Florida, where he now resides. He played fornine NBA teams over a 14-year career after leaving Georgia Tech, finishing his pro days with averages of 12.6 points and 6.1 assists.

"It was my calling," Anderson said.

Being a point guard, he was a coach on the floor. He thinks that experience can translate well to the sideline.

"In time, we'll see what happens," Anderson said.

 

[blackredxiiigoat]

^^interesting...

 

[the lowa]

Day Two: This is a lot of information

By Aran Smith & Borko Popic
5/29/08

Game 1

Team Six (Blue) 75 - Team Five (White)70

Blue

Mike Taylor (17pts, 6-10fg, 3rebs) From the start, Taylor was in full attack mode, never letting up and constantly probing the defense to get to the hoop. Hisspeed and ability to change direction posed numerous problems for the opposition and he was able to convert on some very nice drives. With the game on theline, Taylor stepped up big, converting on a tough floater in the lane that ended up sealing the game. Main concerns with him are his size/position, as well asa hitch in his jumpshot that limits his ability to shoot from long range.

George Hill (14pts, 2ast, 2stl) Hill has more of laid back game than Taylor, but just as effective nonetheless. While it is hard to pinpoint a specific aspectof his game where he excels, he is very good in a number of areas. He showed nice handles, ability to get by people and even nice range that extends to the NBA3. The one thing that stands out most in his game is probably his defense, where he is very aggressive, putting a lot of pressure on the ballhandler anddisrupting the passing lanes with his nice wingspan. He is always in good position and is willing to sacrifice his body, as a result he was able to draw twovery nice charges.

Joey Dorsey (7pts, 4rebs, 3ast) Dorsey showed his usual aggressiveness defensively in the post. Offensively, he seems to have an improved game around thebasket, where he was able to catch difficult passes, and covert on some back to the basket moves.





Davon Jefferson

Davon Jefferson (7pts, 6rebs, 3ast) In the early going it seemed as if Jefferson may have made a mistake showing up this week, as he was almost non-existent.Although his performance was still not spectacular, he was able to salvage the day as he put up a decent 10 minutes together to finish the game off. Hisoffensive skill is still in need of much work, but one cannot deny his terrific frame, and explosiveness.

LR Mbah Moute (9pts, 5rebs) He seemed to have tweaked his ankle in the early going, but showed some character fighting through and still put up a decentperformance. With his length and athleticism, he is always able to alter plays defensively, and convert on hustle baskets offensively.

Sean Singletary (2pts, 2stls) Had a quiet day, and was not much of a factor on the offensive end. Defensively he is very aggressive and he showed nicefootspeed while containing people off the dribble.

Brian Butch (10pts, 6rebs) His game is based around the perimeter and rightly so because he has very little except a nice jumpshot.

Joseph Jones (7pts, 3rebs) May have peaked after his freshman season, his inability to get up and down the floor hurts his chances of competing.

Marcelus Kemp (1-7fg, 2pts) If looks could kill... Has come in great shape, and has a nicely defined body, unfortunately those factors did not result in a goodday. He struggled shooting the ball and did little else.

Shaun Pruitt (0-5, 0pts, 7rebs) Not much was expected from Pruitt coming in, and he did little to change people's minds.

White





Richard Roby

Although they lost a close battle to Team Six, Richard Roby, Othello Hunter and Bryce Taylor were the bright spots for team five.

Bryce Taylor showed some of the assertiveness offensively that was lacking this year at Oregon. He aggressively attacked the basket getting to the line 4 timesand finished with 10 points on 3-8 shooting. He also matched up with Willie Kemp holding the Nevada standout to 2 points on 1-7 shooting.

Othello Hunter somehow found a way to have the dunk of the game despite DeVon Hardin's assault on the rims. Hunter's reverse ally oop finish was thehighlight of this game and maybe the most athletic play of the day. He was a highly effective 6-7 from the floor and finished with 13 points.

Richard Roby was once upon a time seen as a great shooter, after two dismal shooting seasons he's now seen as an above average shooter. He passed up a fewopen looks but was effective driving and getting to the line. His game high 14 points came on an effective 5-8 from the floor.

Devon Hardin had three thunderous dunks but struggled to display any touch or post skills. As impressive a physical specimen as he is, he appears to be a bigtease, a player who gives the impression that he can become a force, but lacking the focus and direction to get there.

Jeremy Pargo had to be wondering what he was doing here with his performance in Day One. He struggled to show much in the way of point guard skills and hisforte scoring wasn't happening either. He finished with four points on a dreadful 1-6 shooting performance in less than 14 minutes of action.

Ramel Bradley was equally frustrated with just 3 points and as many turnovers. The three point guard rotation along with himself, Pargo and Brazelton limitedall three to limited stats in limited minutes.

Tyrone Brazelton was the third cog in the point guard rotation. He led the bunch with four turnovers and had just 3 points on 1-4 shooting. It was frustrationall around for this group.

Kyle Hines who is more of an undersized power forward is being played at the wing position, and he;s finding it extremely difficult. His O-fer in 13 minutes ofaction is proof. He did provide 5 fouls, but didn't show much in the way of perimeter skills.

Josh Duncan made some nice passes, displaying some of the court sense and team skills lacking from DeVon Hardin's game. If you could somehow combine thesetwo players best attributes you'd easily have a lottery pick. Unfortunately, Duncan lacks the athleticism and strength meaning that he's stuck betweenpositions and likely a European level player.

Danny Green appeared to twist his ankle before the game, but it didn't have much effect on his usual mobility level. He gritted out some baskets, butoverall struggled to get by more athletic opponents. He also struggled shooting 0-4 from downtown.

John Riek did not play due to the afore mentioned leg injury. He had a tibia ligament strain and it i unclear whether he will return to camp.

Game 2

Team Two (Blue) 90 - Team One (White) 85





Richard Hendrix

Gary Forbes (17pts, 6-10fg, 3ast) Forbes had his complete game on display today. Matching up with Wayne Ellington, he definitely came out with the upper hand.He was able to get into the lane, either finishing with a nifty move, or getting to the foul line. Although he was the focal point of the offense, he was stillvery unselfish, setting up teammates on numerous drive & dishes. The big question with Forbes has always been his explosiveness, but today he seemed veryquick, moving his feet well, and staying in front of the frustrated Ellington.

Richard Hendrix (12pts, 5rebs) Showed a nice touch from about 15 feet, facing up from the high post and using the glass. He was aggressive both defensively andon the offensive boards, where he can use his frame to clear space. Although the game play is guard dominated at camp, one would still like to see Hendrixdemand the ball in the post and show some moves with his back to the basket. He does have great strength and athleticism, however, there is some concern abouthis actual height.

Robert Vaden (13pts, 6-11fg) To along with a revamped body, he put a nice performance together in his first outing. Doing most of his damage in the first half,Vaden made some difficult outside shots, showing a tremendous range. Coming off screens and in spot up situations, Vaden is an assassin because he can get hisfeet set, and convert on a high percentage of his shots. Where he struggles is when people get physical with him and force him to put the ball on the floor.His is not comfortable handling the ball and often gets out of control when making moves to get to the basket.

Patrick Ewing (14pts, 5-7fg) With Ewing Sr. in attendance, the younger Ewing put in a decent game. He was able to convert on a number of open jumpers andshowed some nice athleticism, but his overall skill set has glaring holes and he does not have a natural position on the floor.

Drew Neitzel (9pts) He was able to combine his shooting touch with some jerky moves to get to the basket. He is definitely undersized, and is more of a scorerthan distributor, but his touch and deceptive quickness are definitely things to keep an eye on.

Longar Longar (10 pts, 5rebs) His length and athleticism are factors and he is able to get some garbage points around the hoop. Unfortunately, he is very weakand has limited basketball skill.

Deron Washington (4pts, 3rebs) His nice athleticism was on display, but not much else. His inability to do anything in a half court set continues to haunt him.

Russell Robinson (6pts) Looked very passive and the few open shots that he did take did not go down for him. He is steady, but lacks the explosiveness tocreate his own shot.

Shawn James (3pts, 4rebs) He is very long and has a fairly fluid release on his jump shot, but he is too weak and looks somewhat out of place.

David Padgett (2pts, 1-5fg) Struggled shooting the ball, was in foul trouble and turned the ball over…not the recipe for success.

White





James Gist

James Gist displayed his tremendous athleticism with a reverse jam in which he was fouled and missed, followed by a nearly identical reverse dunk in which hewas able to covert. He also showed a mid range game knocking down a number of 12-15 foot jumpers. And while he still needs to add consistency to his shot,there's some reason for optimism about his offensive game. Gist could be this year's Renaldo Balkman, a guy who came in without much hype and couldestablish himself as a highly sought after athletic specimen.

Joe Crawford was one of the big surprises of Day One. His 19 points were the high point total on the day. Crawford was able to use his quick first step to getby his man and to the rim. He also knocked down 2-3 from 3 showing the ability to pull up off the dribble from distance. Crawford appears on his way toclaiming a spot in the second round if he can keep up his quality play.

Quan Prowell has been impressive shooting from outside and running the floor. While his five points don;t stand out, he had a solid showing.

Kentrell Gransberry, "The Michelin Man" is a force around the basket with solid touch and tremendous strength, Unfortunately he struggles intransition and aside from using his girth does not possess a vast array of offensive moves. He had a solid 8 points on 3-6 shooting.

Mark Tyndale was a bright spot. He didn't stand out statistically with just 9 points but had one excellent drive and two handed flush over Sasha Kaun. Hislength gives him an edge defensively and on the boards.





Gary Forbes defends Wayne Ellington

Wayne Ellington was one of the day's big disappointments. He scored a couple buckets late to salvage his stats to a degree but in reality he was thoroughlyoutplayed by Gary Forbes who appears to have strength, size and experience over Ellington. Ellington hit just 1-5 from three and his six turnovers and 3-10shooting were too much for his teammates to overcome. Ellington has first round potential, but based on his showing after the first day, it's not likely tobe this year.

Ronald Steele is another guy who really has no business being here. To not play the past season and show up and hope to climb into the first or even secondround just appears to be trying to take the easy way out. Why not return to Alabama and show the ability to stay healthy and return to his underclassman,pre-injury form. Steele has shown some solid play making ability and vision that he had early in his Alabama career, however his inability to stay in front ofopponents (Drew Neitzel) or get by opponents just isn't back to where it needs to be. On the positive side he racked up 6 assists to just 1 turnover.

Shan Foster struggled to get on track with just 7 points on 2-7 shooting. His lack of a great handle and ability to get by opponents appears to be gettingexposed some. He's a great shooter, but still must show a more diverse offensive game.

Darnell Jackson had 8 points on 4-5 shooting, but didn't do anything to stand out. He;s a meat and potatoes type but lacks the speed and athleticismnecessary for the NBA level, especially when considering his lack of optimum size for the post position. Look for Jackson to be a tremendous power forward overseas.

Game 3

Team Four (Blue) 94 - Team Three (White) 81






Ty Lawson

Ty Lawson (10pts, 5ast, 3stl) From the moment he came on the floor he changed the tempo of the game. Pushing the ball in transition, he made some nicedecisions finding open teammates or getting to the hoop and finishing. The highlight for him may have been the fact that he completely outplayed Lester Hudson,the man he was matched up with. Not only did he get by Hudson at will of the dribble, but he held him scoreless for the longer part of the game (Lester finallybroke the seal when Lawson went to the bench). He did knock down a few jump shots, but his release continues to be all over the place, resulting ininconsistent shooting and some bad misses.

Reggie Williams (10pts, 4-6fg, 2stl) An ultra efficient shooting game, Williams more than held his own. With some crafty moves off the dribble and around thebasket, he was able to show some of the repertoire that helped him lead the nation in scoring for consecutive years. His nice ability to finish on the break aswell as set other guys up in transition are very strong aspects of his game. There have been concerns about his defense, but today, while matched up with JRGiddens, Williams was able to stay in front and force Giddens into some difficult shots.

Sonny Weems (6pts, 3-10fg) He had an off shooting day and at times forced the issue a little too much, but his potential is undoubtedly present. He has mademajor improvements to his ball handling and jump shot, and in the short time that we saw him today, these were on display. His offensive repertoire is stilldeveloping, but some nice drives to the hoop and a nice floater definitely show that he is on the right path.

Pat Calathes (10pts, 5ast) Showed some nice moves off the dribble and in transition, he was able to use his quickness to get by the defense. He seems to haveput on some weight since Portsmouth, but still looks extremely skinny. He can knock down the mid-range shot, but with his unorthodox release he seems to lackrange out to the NBA 3.

Charles Rhodes (11pts, 4-8fg) Has put on some nice muscle definition and showed good touch from about 15 feet. He looked very good running the floor and wasnot afraid to mix it up in the paint.

Keith Brumbaugh (6pts, 3rebs) Here for a second go-around, not much was seen from the JUCO hopeful. His shot may be the most awkward in camp as it has sidespin, and he shoots with his hands together, as if he lacks the strength to get it off. To his credit he is fairly active, and plays with some tenacity, butthose two alone will not get it done.

Brian Roberts (11pts, 2 ast) Has good speed in the open court and a nice 1st step that allows him to get to the right spots on the floor. His shooting form maybe the most natural at camp and his efficiency is also good (2-3 3fg, 4-9fg). The downside with him is that he is undersized and his slight frame gives himmatchup problems with the bigger guards.

Frank Elegar (8pts, 5rebs, 3ast) A decent performance, he is fairly active and aggressive. He is definitely a tweener, lacking go to game on the perimeter andon the block to do any serious damage.

Vladimir Golubovic (9pts) The only international at camp was able to score around the hoop, but his stiffness and lack of post moves make it difficult for himto bang with the more physical big men.

Sasha Kaun (4pts, 9rebs) Did not get many touches, as a result his shooting numbers cannot be taken into consideration too strongly. He hit the boards andworked hard on the defensive end, unfortunately he is finding out the hard way just how much ball dominant guards can affect the game.

Malik Hairston (8pts, 4ast) A decent stat line by the former Duck, yet his game never did much to impress. He is a solid player, but seems satisfied shootingspot ups instead of attacking the hoop.

White





Lester Hudson

The story of game three was the utter domination of Lester Hudson by Ty Lawson. Hudson looked very uncomfortable bringing the ball up against the ultra quickLawson and forget about running the offense or setting up teammates for scores, he had his hands full just getting the ball up to the front court and to ateammate. Hudson's 5 assists and 4 points came for the most part when Lawson was on the bench in the second half. Hudson's stock has taken a dip afterday 1.

James Mays was an effective 5-6 from the floor using his big wingspan and athleticism to score on a number of baskets around the hoop. He also got to the linefour times converting three.

Trent Plaisted struggled to get into the flow of the game. He's been one of the more impressive players in camp during drills, but was unable to get thetouches to make much happen in this game. He looked athletic running the floor and crashing the boards.

DeMarcus Nelson shared game high honors with James Mays with 13. His 4-11 from the floor didn't help his cause, nor did his four turnovers. He plays biggerthan his 6-3 height, but has his work cut out for himself to find a spot in the second round.

Stanley Burrell is much better on the defensive side of the ball, and that showed in this game as he shot just 1-5. He was aggressive driving and got to theline converting 5-6.

Takais Brown is a bruising bigman who played at Georgia before signing a professional deal to play in FInland. His 2-5 shooting for four points didn't domuch to draw attention to himself. He has good size and strength, but lacks the explosiveness and skill level to get a serious look in the NBA.

One thing Jiri Hubalek can do is knock down open jumpers. Any time he's left open, it's usually as good as in the net. Unfortunately he doesn'thave much game outside of spot up shooting to speak of.

JR Gidddens has been solid in scrimmages and drills but that didn't translate into the game as he struggled without anyone to set him up. He finished with7 points on 2-4 shooting. While this performance certainly didn't hurt him, it also isn't a positive and he'll need to pick up his play in the nextcouple days.

Marcus Dove had just 5 points but actually played well giving Brumbaugh a tough time with his tremendous defensive ability as well as showing some rangeknocking down two long jumpers.

Chris Daniels had 7 points and 6 boards, not bad for the soft touched center. He doesn't have much quickness or athleticism but can knock down shots withconsistency and range.

 

[typerpinoy]

Originally Posted by Al3xis

Pat playin well

i really hope he doesnt get drafted so the knicks can pick him up. pat plays a similar game to balkman in terms of D and hustle...but he is a huge step upoffensively...i know a lot of ppl are gonna say his numbers are trash but allen i know ppl like us who watch the boy play on a consistent basis know whats up.i think ewing jr would fit well into d'antoni's system

 

[the lowa]

It is the play of Gary Forbes that will be the talk of the camp. With his performance so far in Orlando and at the Portsmouth camp he will get drafted in thesecond round.

 

[goldenarmz97]

Deron Washington used their athleticism to make an impact on both ends. Washington had an especially good day, finishing two monster dunks and making an impact running the floor on a handful of occasions.
Go head FAM...

 

[datznasty]

It's on ESPNU now, just showed that Daron Washington putback from last night. He is sucking right now though. I mean horrendous. In the first 3 minutes hehad like 2 tos and missed 2 dunks and airball. Josh Duncan just hit an NBA 3.

 

[tmay407]

Originally Posted by dreClark

And I guess this means Jamont Gordon and Josh Carter are going back to school

Yea, Josh announced I think last week that he was coming back to school.

 

[stima33]

Any word on Sean Singletary?

 

[pharelfor3]

damn I wish i had Espnu. anything is better then watching college softball.

 

[al3xis]

Gary Forbes (17pts, 6-10fg, 3ast) Forbes had his complete game on display today. Matching up with Wayne Ellington, he definitely came out with the upper hand. He was able to get into the lane, either finishing with a nifty move, or getting to the foul line. Although he was the focal point of the offense, he was still very unselfish, setting up teammates on numerous drive & dishes. The big question with Forbes has always been his explosiveness, but today he seemed very quick, moving his feet well, and staying in front of the frustrated Ellington.
Yes sir.

.i know a lot of ppl are gonna say his numbers are trash but allen i know ppl like us who watch the boy play on a consistent basis know whats up. i think ewing jr would fit well into d'antoni's system
Yup....I would love him in NY.

I can't believe that write up said his skill set has 'glaring holes'...but it's from the same site that said Roy struggled against those hissize...

So basically, ZERO credibility. IMO.

I watched Pat's game and !%$*!!# draft sites won't tell you what NBA Scouts will recognize for instance..

Pat making entry passes away from the defender and on the side his teammate could go to work, cutting through after making passes and spreading the floor,Taking smaller defenders (Foster) into the paint, he can handle the ball fairly well now....and of course he brings energy and he's is extremely athletic.

He's a damn good role player in the NBA.