New KAnye Interview.....Vol. YOU CANNOT GIVE ME ANY ADVICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ksteezy]

They are both influential but Michelle is on another level, she influences women to become something more, to educate themselves, nobody checking Kim for her smarts, lets not forget Michelle IS influential in fashion and she does it in a much better way, she wore a gown by an unknown designers gown during the inaguration....Jason Wu, making him an instant celebrity fashion designer....something Kanye and Kim are not doing, he profits off a song called "the new slaves" and the hypocrisy behind that is that HE and Kimmy also are leading that campaign,..they were nothing but high end designer **** knowing how influential they are and tricking the average joe that can't really afford stay slave to these brands to achieve those looks...weak people....but victims at this point...why not use your influence and promote up and coming designers?...put a few people on te map...Virgil doesn't count Kanye..

 

[tr1ll]

Pharrell has done everything Ye cannot. (Try me)

A solo rap single hit.

 

[freeze]

Kim helps the world how she made being a **** except able

son.............:x

 

[isnx2]

Bruh...

1) What are you mad about?? You coming for my neck with some dull **** with no supporting facts. Come with something sharp next time.

2) You took this very personal so I'm going to assume you have the money to explain what you and Kanye "get" that the rest of us peasents don't.

3) If a person is truly creative and is making a quality product no one will be able to contain or stop you in this day and age especially someone of his magnitude.

Queens kill me with online banter. If you were face to face with Pac you'd embrace the fetal position.

Don't play ya self and everyone else in this thread.

U lose.
Ballet in baltimore to gangsta rap on the west coast.
Pac was just another black man with no self control.
Nobody feared him.
LOL

For u to infer i took these broke ppl opinions personal is very unreasonable.
I will infer you stated a broke ppl opinion.

 

[fontaine]

Y'all need to know when someone is trolling....

 

[bilboshmangins]

Y'all need to know when someone is trolling....

Some of these cats need to let their jimmies hang low...all tight for no reason

 

[yanky]

His unreleased mtv interview from 2002 is on YouTube.

 

[illphillip]

Kanye is definitely black, clearly angry about things and his want for entrepreneurship bucks against the established white power structure.

Wants entrepreneurship but doesn't or can't start his own fashion line.

Needs to be a designer for someone else's company.

Which fits conveniently into that "white power structure" you claim he's "bucking".

Has a label distributed by Island/Def Jam. Same.

Sounds about right in a Kanye thread. Let's ignore the specifics and believe in fantasy.

Believe in what we THINK/HOPE he's trying to accomplish, as if he's really some sort of social activist.

All of which his words and actions refute.

 

[thorrocksjs]

son.............:x

Thank Steve jobs and the iPhone .Kanye said he in heaven right now

 

[PRIME]

Since Kanye has no corporate machine backing him he complains.

If he did have a corporate machine backing him, he would complain about being controlled.


Son needs to **** and go raise his kid. The strong move quiet, the weak start riots. Between himself and his new wife, son has more than enough money to get some **** popping. But he wants to complain.


He doesn't want to spend any of his own money because he knows the risk at hand. He wants to risk someone else's money and gamble someone else's already established brand name.

 

[wr]

Wants entrepreneurship but doesn't or can't start his own fashion line.

Needs to be a designer for someone else's company.

Which fits conveniently into that "white power structure" you claim he's "bucking".

Has a label distributed by Island/Def Jam. Same.

Sounds about right in a Kanye thread. Let's ignore the specifics and believe in fantasy.

Believe in what we THINK/HOPE he's trying to accomplish, as if he's really some sort of social activist.

All of which his words and actions refute.

taken out of context. you clearly did not read my following post.

But they have used his designs though. He's just trying to step into that creative director role and it's very competitive and elite.

At the end of the day, all this is planned. The rebel, the anti-corporate, anti- big business movement is in full swing and you can bet they are making money on this.

It's a catch 22 tho.

People will find out who you really are.

Look at the backlash Jay got when he tried to do the occupy shirts. People thought how could the 1% be selling the 99% merchandise for their movement against themselves??

Look at how Macklemore is touted as a indie artist success story when he had the machine behind him?
http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2013...klemore-and-the-myth-of-the-indie-artist.html

these dudes are business men at the end of the day and they work for or have deals with the same 1% they claim they are against.

 

[PRIME]

If Ye was doing this all on his own, and people were hating or something I'd say **** the haters.

But he's complaining. And he has more than enough money to do something on his own.

 

[yanky]

Since Kanye has no corporate machine backing him he complains.

If he did have a corporate machine backing him, he would complain about being controlled.


Son needs to **** and go raise his kid. The strong move quiet, the weak start riots. Between himself and his new wife, son has more than enough money to get some **** popping. But he wants to complain.


He doesn't want to spend any of his own money because he knows the risk at hand. He wants to risk someone else's money and gamble someone else's already established brand name.

Good point. Dude does have a lot of $$ an could ask Hova for some advice.

 

[wr]

Since Kanye has no corporate machine backing him he complains.

If he did have a corporate machine backing him, he would complain about being controlled.


Son needs to **** and go raise his kid. The strong move quiet, the weak start riots. Between himself and his new wife, son has more than enough money to get some **** popping. But he wants to complain.


He doesn't want to spend any of his own money because he knows the risk at hand. He wants to risk someone else's money and gamble someone else's already established brand name.

successful business ppl never spend their own money. They use other ppl money. Or as GSC would say, leverage.

When you hear about celebrities saying stuff like, "I sold my house to get this project off the ground"

It' because they are trying to make a move on their own. and the machine is not behind them.

Even if i was a multimillionaire and financed a movie out of pocket, I could spend 1 mil making the movie, and 25 million just advertising the film for 2 weeks nation wide.

 

[illphillip]

Wants entrepreneurship but doesn't or can't start his own fashion line.

Needs to be a designer for someone else's company.

Which fits conveniently into that "white power structure" you claim he's "bucking".

Has a label distributed by Island/Def Jam. Same.

Sounds about right in a Kanye thread. Let's ignore the specifics and believe in fantasy.

Believe in what we THINK/HOPE he's trying to accomplish, as if he's really some sort of social activist.

All of which his words and actions refute.

taken out of context. you clearly did not read my following post.

But they have used his designs though. He's just trying to step into that creative director role and it's very competitive and elite.

At the end of the day, all this is planned. The rebel, the anti-corporate, anti- big business movement is in full swing and you can bet they are making money on this.

It's a catch 22 tho.

People will find out who you really are.

Look at the backlash Jay got when he tried to do the occupy shirts. People thought how could the 1% be selling the 99% merchandise for their movement against themselves??

Look at how Macklemore is touted as a indie artist success story when he had the machine behind him?
http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2013...klemore-and-the-myth-of-the-indie-artist.html

these dudes are business men at the end of the day and they work for or have deals with the same 1% they claim they are against.

I read a lot of what you wrote and it supports my point exactly. Once you start typing nonsense like "Kanye knows this and he's doing this and that for this reason", your opinion is void.

Acting like you know what's going on in that man's head when he probably doesn't even. Again, let's BELIEVE in what we THINK he's trying to do and ignore the words he speaks and the actions themselves.

OK

I'm kind of over the whole Macklemore thing. I work at an independent music company. I know people personally that were involved in that project from the beginning and a LOT of what's being suggested in that article is false.

I worked at a company distributed by ADA once. Warner did NOTHING for us. NOTHING. We broke records on major radio stations ourselves. So again, I can tell you personally some of what's written there is inaccurate.

That's as independent as it gets and that's what Macklemore is. On top of that he PAYS Warner Brothers to work his records to radio now. After Thrift Shop broke independently. I know the people who worked it personally.

That is everything but a typical deal. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

So that comparison was piss poor.

 

[dankenstien88]

I find it incredibly ironic that Kanye is somehow under the impression that he can make the world a better place through overpriced fashion that caters to an extremely small demographic.

He is already a force in the music industry and music is much more powerful, influential and long lasting than leather jogging pants and $1200 shoes. If he pulled his head out of his *** for even a second he would realize this and re-direct his focus to making music that can change the world.

Clothing and fashions come and go but truly good music is eternal.

 

[wr]

I read a lot of what you wrote and it supports my point exactly. Once you start typing nonsense like "Kanye knows this and he's doing this and that for this reason", your opinion is void.

Acting like you know what's going on in that man's head when he probably doesn't even. Again, let's BELIEVE in what we THINK he's trying to do and ignore the words he speaks and the actions themselves.

OK

I'm kind of over the whole Macklemore thing. I work at an independent music company. I know people personally that were involved in that project from the beginning and a LOT of what's being suggested in that article is false.

I worked at a company distributed by ADA once. Warner did NOTHING for us. NOTHING. That's as independent as it gets and that's what Macklemore is. On top of that he PAYS Warner Brothers to work his records to radio now. After Thrift Shop broke independently. I know the people who worked it personally.

That is everything but a typical deal. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

So that comparison was piss poor.

that's news to you? okay industry insider

sounds like you have a problem with me and not what I'm saying.

you don't know everything that goes on in confidential agreements, or they wouldn't be confidential.

Just because you spent time somewhere and shot the breeze with some associates means you know the inside angle of the industry bruh.

There is no typical deal or anything in the industry anymore.

If you knew, you would know everybody in the industry right now is scrambling to readjust to the climate.

I literally just left a conference with some of your favorite producers discussing this very thing.

 

[illphillip]

Why would I have a problem with you?

All I'm talking about is what you're saying. I said nothing about you personally.

Congrats on managing to reply to me, typing quite a bit, and saying nothing at all.

I think I just said there is no typical deal. So you're just echoing my words? OK.

You know my favorite producers?

What the **** are you talking about?

I'll tell you what though, I bet "because (I) spent time somewhere and shot the breeze with some associates" means I know quite a bit more than you do.

Considering the only source of info you quoted was a website.

Look at you getting cute with your little "industry insider". I work inside the industry. Call it what you want.

 

[PRIME]

Since Kanye has no corporate machine backing him he complains.

If he did have a corporate machine backing him, he would complain about being controlled.


Son needs to **** and go raise his kid. The strong move quiet, the weak start riots. Between himself and his new wife, son has more than enough money to get some **** popping. But he wants to complain.


He doesn't want to spend any of his own money because he knows the risk at hand. He wants to risk someone else's money and gamble someone else's already established brand name.

successful business ppl never spend their own money. They use other ppl money. Or as GSC would say, leverage.

When you hear about celebrities saying stuff like, "I sold my house to get this project off the ground"

It' because they are trying to make a move on their own. and the machine is not behind them.

Even if i was a multimillionaire and financed a movie out of pocket, I could spend 1 mil making the movie, and 25 million just advertising the film for 2 weeks nation wide.

Yeah, but Kanye has NO people skills. The dude said it himself, he sits with dudes like Zuckerberg and other billionaires who try to put him on game, and he just deflects all their advice. You expect me to give you $20mil and you don't even want to hear what I have to say?

I don't get any sort of input into what MY money is going into? I should just shut up and give you money so you can do whatever you want?

The hell am I getting out of this? Damn near nothing.

Do you think anyone wants to leverage with Kanye at this point?

The dude shoots himself in the foot with every rant he goes off in.

Successful business people don't bite the hands that haven't even fed them yet.

 

[wr]

Yeah, but Kanye has NO people skills. The dude said it himself, he sits with dudes like Zuckerberg and other billionaires who try to put him on game, and he just deflects all their advice. You expect me to give you $20mil and you don't even want to hear what I have to say?

I don't get any sort of input into what MY money is going into? I should just shut up and give you money so you can do whatever you want?

The hell am I getting out of this? Damn near nothing.

Do you think anyone wants to leverage with Kanye at this point?

The dude shoots himself in the foot with every rant he goes off in.

Successful business people don't bite the hands that haven't even fed them yet.

i agree.

which is why i think he is gonna be remembered more for these interviews and outburst over any thing he creates.

 

[bilboshmangins]

Dudes are out here quoting gold street capital....

 

[tawainehel]

A solo rap single hit.

I see you and rasie you the clipse over the GOOD music roster.

 

[00david00]

You know, sitting back and observing this thread and the other one and I gotta say, most of the hate/praise hes getting seem a little misguided.

+ Kanye is a jerk. Don't deny it.

+ Classicism exists for entertainers and especially black entertainers. Is it hard to break into other creative industries and be taken seriously? Absolutely, so his speeches about being frustrated at the lack of opportunity is warranted. From what I can gather, his recent media frenzy of complaining is him trying to explain that as a black male with money, you still aren't free from high class forms of snobbery. I don't understand why people wave his talks off like he's "crazy." I will say that his language and explanations aren't crystal clear, but he isn't speaking a different language or something. All he's saying is "I have the means to do something in a different creative outlet, how come there's someone telling me no i can't do this? Why can't I?"

+ Objectively speaking, who said that you have to be all the way humble and you can't grab your charles dickens when you do something truly innovative? Now like I said earlier, Kanye is a jerk and I think he pats himself too hard on the back too hard, but I think there's something to note that even if Kanye dialed his egoism back when he became a celebrity and he just had 1/16th ego of what he has now, the public would still dislike him. The point is, I think that the convention of "being nice because I'm in a great financial place" is an ok convention to break...to a point.

+ As he is now with his over-complicated speeches, public marriage, and his ego in full display I don't see him being able to ever really being able to fully break through to other areas and have the effect he wants. The way he is going about it now is by telling the public "They won't let me! There's still a different form of racism up here when you have money. " is great for us to be aware of, but I don't think it will get him where he wants.


I'm still a fan of his just my two cents.





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clap it up

 

[ronsweedroom]

I read a lot of what you wrote and it supports my point exactly. Once you start typing nonsense like "Kanye knows this and he's doing this and that for this reason", your opinion is void.

Acting like you know what's going on in that man's head when he probably doesn't even. Again, let's BELIEVE in what we THINK he's trying to do and ignore the words he speaks and the actions themselves.

OK

I'm kind of over the whole Macklemore thing. I work at an independent music company. I know people personally that were involved in that project from the beginning and a LOT of what's being suggested in that article is false.

I worked at a company distributed by ADA once. Warner did NOTHING for us. NOTHING. We broke records on major radio stations ourselves. So again, I can tell you personally some of what's written there is inaccurate.

That's as independent as it gets and that's what Macklemore is. On top of that he PAYS Warner Brothers to work his records to radio now. After Thrift Shop broke independently. I know the people who worked it personally.

That is everything but a typical deal. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

So that comparison was piss poor.

You hiring?

 

[wr]

Why would I have a problem with you?

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Originally Posted by illphillip View Post

I read a lot of what you wrote and it supports my point exactly. Once you start typing nonsense like "Kanye knows this and he's doing this and that for this reason", your opinion is void.

when did the thread become about me and not Kanye