NFL Discussion Thread - Hall of Fame Game: August 3rd

[stillin729]

I want TJ more younger and cheaper than Byrd

 

[100027]

I want TJ more younger and cheaper than Byrd

Byrd is in a different stratosphere as a player though.

Schefty said the Eagles and Pats are interested in Revis

These are the two teams that actually make sense imo.

 

[CP1708]

Branden Albert started following Tannehill, Lamar Miller, and Delmas last night.....

Welp.

 

[lyonbc1]

I want TJ more younger and cheaper than Byrd

I can't argue either way but from that review on igglesblitz it seems like they're totally different players...Byrd gets big plays and is a centerfielder type (turnovers) and Ward is more sure tackling and really stuffs the run game...the greedy side of me would like both since they'd complement one another but then we'd totally jack the cap situation all up But I wouldn't want Byrd for the 9mill they were saying, only if his price comes down from that bc he's not good enough to command that much money

 

[100027]

I can't argue either way but from that review on igglesblitz it seems like they're totally different players...Byrd gets big plays and is a centerfielder type (turnovers) and Ward is more sure tackling and really stuffs the run game...the greedy side of me would like both since they'd complement one another but then we'd totally jack the cap situation all up

But I wouldn't want Byrd for the 9mill they were saying, only if his price comes down from that bc he's not good enough to command that much money

Byrd is the closest thing to an Earl Thomas outside of Earl Thomas.

Ward is your classic big-hit, run stuffing SS who is suspect in coverage.

 

[buc em]

Ward is a younger Goldson.

 

[trueprada]

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[stillin729]

I like Byrd I'm just not sure I wanna break the bank for him; he plays faster than he is which scares me

I think I still have nightmares about Nhamdi

 

[100027]

Ward is a younger Goldson.

I would have said Whitner.  

I like Byrd I'm just not sure I wanna break the bank for him; he plays faster than he is which scares me

I think I still have nightmares about Nhamdi

 

[lyonbc1]

Not sure if this was posted but a really good breakdown of Revis last season: http://presnapreads.com/2014/02/26/darrelle-revis-the-numbers-the-tape-the-verdict-2014/

Cliffs: he's still a beast

 

[Hahahaha]

What do you mean Revis spent a year Nnamdiing? Revis had a good year, not sure if you're saying otherwise.


Giants signed Peyton Hillis for two years, I hope it was for free


Herm Edwards just said watch out for Revis going to SF

 

[100027]

Not sure if this was posted but a really good breakdown of Revis last season: http://presnapreads.com/2014/02/26/darrelle-revis-the-numbers-the-tape-the-verdict-2014/

Cliffs: he's still a beast

I read this.  It definitely serves to correct the narrative that Revis was wasted under Schiano or w/e.

That said, the reason I brought up Nnamdi is that it can be dangerous when teams don't have to throw at him because the CB next to him is weak and it's easy to look at other WRs.  Tampa was definitely in need of a #2 and #3 corner all year and about an average defense against the pass overall.

 

[100027]

Herm Edwards just said watch out for Revis going to SF

I considered being scared about this, do NOT want to see Revis there.  But I can't see them shelling out that money for a multi-year deal with Kaep and Aldon coming up.

 

[buc em]

What other corners are available besides Verner, Tillman and Finnegan?

 

[keel252]

if Revis ends up in Frisco

 

[Hahahaha]

Herm Edwards just said watch out for Revis going to SF

I considered being scared about this, do NOT want to see Revis there.  But I can't see them shelling out that money for a multi-year deal with Kaep and Aldon coming up.

Which is true. Does he want money or to win a ring? That is probably the best available team to go to if he wants to win now. I'm curious about the NE talk because they don't pay anyone so you almost rule them out, unless they're gonna pay him.

 

[stillin729]

Revis had a pretty good year in TB and it's clear he was still on his way back to being fully recovered from his injury

 

[100027]

Which is true. Does he want money or to win a ring? That is probably the best available team to go to if he wants to win now. I'm curious about the NE talk because they don't pay anyone so you almost rule them out, unless they're gonna pay him.

Well he certainly wanted the money last time.  I don't see what's changed.  Including the fact that he refused to re-negotiate with Tampa who look likely to be good this year.

 

[buc em]

Revis will say all the right things and play his *** off but if you don't pay him what he wants he won't play for you.

 

[lyonbc1]

Schefter reporting the Bucs and Michael Johnson (DE) are in "serious" discussions

 

[yvespo3]

@mikefreemanNFL: GM tells me Bucs' initial asking price was two No. 1s for Revis. Around the league, they were laughed at.
no leverage

 

[lyonbc1]

@mikefreemanNFL: GM tells me Bucs' initial asking price was two No. 1s for Revis. Around the league, they were laughed at.
no leverage

at asking for two 1's...wut

 

[100027]

 

[Chester McFloppy]

People comparing TJ Ward to Donte Whitner in here.

 

[100027]

People comparing TJ Ward to Donte Whitner in here.

What's wrong with the comparison?

Both big hitting SSs, good against the run but suspect in coverage...