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I've always thought thatOriginally Posted by TkTheGirl
"In some awful, strange, paradoxical way, atheists tend to take religion more seriously than the practitioners."
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I've always thought thatOriginally Posted by TkTheGirl
"In some awful, strange, paradoxical way, atheists tend to take religion more seriously than the practitioners."
nYc what do you believe in?Originally Posted by nYcHipHopHippo
i don't see the relation in preaching and being an OP but okOriginally Posted by nnarum
I'm not preaching... Hence I am not an OP. I posted my thoughts... I didn't know I had to put a spoiler or a DO NOT READ IF YOU ARE EASILY OFFENDED... And good thing I didn't post this in another non-religion titled thread, I could be preaching or trolling...Originally Posted by nYcHipHopHippo
I totally understand that some people are just unable to have respect toward organized religions. I can see why...Originally Posted by nnarum
Oh, and the best part, miracles occur everyday with each sunrise. Daylight = heaven. Nighttime = hell. It's dark, cold, and doesn't help photosynthesis in creation of food.Originally Posted by ProduccionFrescos
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Beautiful answer[/color]Originally Posted by nnarum
Religion is for those who need some sort of emotional attachment to something. It gives them hope. Why isn't there one right religion? Because they are all wrong.
If you want something to worship? Worship the sun. It gives us heat for warmth, sunlight to produce food and give us the ability to see, and physics as in gravity from rotation around it...
but I really don't understand why people feel like they need to express these views in a way of mockery that they know will offend people. I mean damn it's one thing for you to talk about it among other people who don't believe in religions, and keep the thoughts in your head...but why would u share it on this board when you know it's going to be found as offensive to some.
By the way...I'm not offended because the mocking was executed poorly and I don't really care about religion that much...but it had potential
and when did I ever say you were preaching? actually the word preach isn't even found in that entire quote.
all i'm saying is that you should be more respectful to a person's belief system since. I don't think it's difficult for any non-mentally challenged atheist/agnostic to be able to comprehend why religion would be a sensitive issue to discuss for people who do believe in a religion, and that when doing so it's best to do it with respect.
Originally Posted by Essential1
Christians answer me these two questions:
1. If god is all powerful and is the creator of everything can he create a rock even he can't lift?
2. Greek mythology accepts homosexuality (see Cupid, etc......) and Greek mythology is heavily based on religion is it possible that those who are homosexual are not sinners? Because Jesus preaches love of all mankind. Jesus is the son of god. God created everything. Hence god created men who turned out to be homosexual.
1. I don't think thats possible. His powers are unlimited therefore He would be able to go above and beyond any challenge.Originally Posted by Essential1
Christians answer me these two questions:
1. If god is all powerful and is the creator of everything can he create a rock even he can't lift?
2. Greek mythology accepts homosexuality (see Cupid, etc......) and Greek mythology is heavily based on religion is it possible that those who are homosexual are not sinners? Because Jesus preaches love of all mankind. Jesus is the son of god. God created everything. Hence god created men who turned out to be homosexual.
Greek mythology is not based on religion. Greek mythology is just that...mythology. It may be considered a religion, but in a technical, non-modern way
How is Greek mythology not religion? They believed in these gods and worshipped them. That is religion. Only with hindsight can you say it's not religion,and even then it is questionable. It's only because we have SCIENTIFIC answers to questions they had do we not attribute bad weather to Poseidon orlightning from Zeus. Religion has been used in order to put an answer to things we can't understand. It's very possible that one day Christianity couldbe looked on as mythology thousands of years from now.
1. No. You're questioning the definition of omnipotence, not God's actual power. God can do anything that is possible, but he can't doanything that is impossible.Originally Posted by Essential1
Christians answer me these two questions:
1. If god is all powerful and is the creator of everything can he create a rock even he can't lift?
2. Greek mythology accepts homosexuality (see Cupid, etc......) and Greek mythology is heavily based on religion is it possible that those who are homosexual are not sinners? Because Jesus preaches love of all mankind. Jesus is the son of god. God created everything. Hence god created men who turned out to be homosexual.
Originally Posted by CarminePOWER
People seem to believe that science and religion don't mix; I beg to differ. The more I learn about the massive complexities of life, the more I realize that there's no way this was not created. Science can be wrong though. A couple of examples: Lamarck's theory of evolution, and the whole "energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Many Christians think that the Earth is roughly 6000 years old, and that idea was perpetuated by ignorant preachers.
God never discerned how long the first 7 days were. Since those days never included humans in them, it is doubtful that the days were 24 hour days. I think the reason some people don't believe in Christianity is because of the obvious mistakes some of it's preachers make. Most people realize that the Earth is more than 6000 years old, and then believe that Christianity cannot possibly be true.
Buddhism>Christianity.....
Another branch from a central idea like Christianity. God is the tree and roots. Religions and people have grew from God and are still attachedwhile others have broken off as do branches, leaves, twigs and berries.
As for the dinosaur question, it IS implied in the bible, just like many other things are. And who knows how long a day was back then? A day could've been a minute or a million years.
You know what dude? I don't know if its just me, but does it seem like the days fly by now compared to years prior?
RKO2004 wrote
Buddhism>Christianity.....
Another branch from a central idea like Christianity. God is the tree and roots. Religions and people have grew from God and are still attached while others have broken off as do branches, leaves, twigs and berries.
interesting. kinda has that arrogant tone to it, but oh well.
also my question to you is that everybody claims that god is All powerful, all knowing, & all good. So then why does God allow evil to make its way intothis world of ours?
There are a few reasons i can think of;
God is unable to remove the evil from this world; he is not all powerful
God did not know that evil would make its way into this world; he is not all knowing
God purposefully allowed evil to make its way into our world; he is not all good
and my last question is that if God is all knowing & he knows everything that is going to happen for the entirety of time, then how can he also claim thathe gave us free will. If we truly have free will, then how can he still know what is going to happen?
I'm glad you brought this up. God operates on a different time sheet than what we're used to. I believe it was Solid Dunk who explained to me than for all we know, days could seem like years or centuries to God. So the 7 day theory can go a few ways.
It's all in translation. Genesis was written by man, there shouldn't be ambiguity in what is meant by seven days except for equivocal translations ofwhat a day meant in the original language.
Another branch from a central idea like Christianity. God is the tree and roots. Religions and people have grew from God and are still attached while others have broken off as do branches, leaves, twigs and berries.
Christianity and Buddhism are nothing alike. Each have a different view of the afterlife and how to achieve it. Your analogy seems to make an assumption thatall religions are "ok." Am I right? If God is the root then all the branches eventually lead to the same thing, God. But how can you believe that andstill be a Christian? As far as Christians are concerned, everyone who doesn't except Christ as their savior goes to hell, obviously all religionscan't be a part of the same tree.
Another branch from a central idea like Christianity. God is the tree and roots. Religions and people have grew from God and are still attached while others have broken off as do branches, leaves, twigs and berries.
RKO as always you are appreciated in my book for your well explained thoughts (unlike others)Originally Posted by kyrac2
Another branch from a central idea like Christianity. God is the tree and roots. Religions and people have grew from God and are still attached while others have broken off as do branches, leaves, twigs and berries.
Another branch from a central idea like Christianity. God is the tree and roots. Religions and people have grew from God and are still attached while others have broken off as do branches, leaves, twigs and berries.Originally Posted by ericberry14
RKO2004 wrote
Buddhism>Christianity.....
and my last question is that if God is all knowing & he knows everything that is going to happen for the entirety of time, then how can he also claim that he gave us free will. If we truly have free will, then how can he still know what is going to happen?
I personally believe God has an unlimited amount of plans and ideas and to which direction each one of us may take. Every move we could make he is already onto it. Free will is OUR choices and decisions. Of course God knows what road we should go down but He lets us choose it. As many bad roads we may go down. Godis still there with us. When I tell you and NT about my beliefs, it is not to judge you or anything so sorry if I have come off as that in the past. But I wantto inform you there is a being who loves you more than you will ever know. I'm not trying to cramp y'all style but put you on to God's style.
kyrac2 Thank you bro and God Bless.
but as the dude above you said, that isnt how christianity operates. Christians believe that if you dont accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah, savior, son of God then you are going to hell no matter how much of a good person you are
Well that is what Jesus said. No one goes to the father but through him. I can't say for sure since I'm not God. All I can do is tell youthe word. What you do from there is your choice. But EB to be honest man. I think alot of religions tie in with one another. I believe Christ is my Lord andSavior but I wouldn't crap on Islam either because we all come from God. We just have to stop fight and find out what God wants as a whole instead of bitsa pieces. I think some religions have fell far from what God wants because they edit his words according to what they want. I try to stick to what He wantsrather than what I desire.
Christianity and Buddhism are nothing alike. Each have a different view of the afterlife and how to achieve it. Your analogy seems to make an assumption that all religions are "ok." Am I right? If God is the root then all the branches eventually lead to the same thing, God. But how can you believe that and still be a Christian? As far as Christians are concerned, everyone who doesn't except Christ as their savior goes to hell, obviously all religions can't be a part of the same tree.
Didn't say that. To be truly apart of the tree (God). We must figure out what He truly wants rather than what we want. We are all from God.Some have chosen to be further away than others and some have broken off from that tree. The fact of the matter is we are all from the same tree. Some of ushave chosen to break off and take our buds to start new trees.
Originally Posted by ericberry14
interesting. kinda has that arrogant tone to it, but oh well.
also my question to you is that everybody claims that god is All powerful, all knowing, & all good. So then why does God allow evil to make its way into this world of ours?
There are a few reasons i can think of;
God is unable to remove the evil from this world; he is not all powerful
God did not know that evil would make its way into this world; he is not all knowing
God purposefully allowed evil to make its way into our world; he is not all good
and my last question is that if God is all knowing & he knows everything that is going to happen for the entirety of time, then how can he also claim that he gave us free will. If we truly have free will, then how can he still know what is going to happen?
You know what dude? I don't know if its just me, but does it seem like the days fly by now compared to years prior?
I have a lot of respect for Atheists with this kind of outlook.Originally Posted by pr1nts
this thread is giving us non believers a bad name. no matter what you throw at them they will come up with an explanation just like we would. in the end you have to let people believe what they want, neither side knows if what they believe is 100% fact nor will they for a long time.
Originally Posted by FeelMode
You know what dude? I don't know if its just me, but does it seem like the days fly by now compared to years prior?
Originally Posted by pr1nts
this thread is giving us non believers a bad name. no matter what you throw at them they will come up with an explanation just like we would. in the end you have to let people believe what they want, neither side knows if what they believe is 100% fact nor will they for a long time.
You look at that as just some MAJOR coincidence, some people look at that as proof!Originally Posted by nnarum
Religion is for those who need some sort of emotional attachment to something. It gives them hope. Why isn't there one right religion? Because they are all wrong.
If you want something to worship? Worship the sun. It gives us heat for warmth, sunlight to produce food and give us the ability to see, and physics as in gravity from rotation around it...
Originally Posted by dgk3188
they're gonna whip out some verse in the bible that talks about "giant beasts" and claim that's mentioning dinosaurs