NTers who lease their whips? Vol: new whip every 3 years

I was always against the idea of leasing until I finally decided to lease this time around.

I've had 3 purchased cars and every single one of them was a huge hit in terms of depreciation.

Certain cars it makes sense to buy and if you drive your cars at least 8-10 years, then maybe you'll get your money's worth but for me having switched out every 2-3 years, I took a hit each time. Not only did I take a hit in terms of car value, I also ran into issues with maintenance on some of the cars I had purchased and the maintenance was starting to cost 1000+ at times.

The reason I chose to lease my current car is because the lease deal was too good of a deal and it made absolutely no sense to buy the car. In a 2 year lease term, I'm paying 13,650 with all taxes etc included on a 60k MSRP car for 15k miles a year. After 2 years, I'm going to throw this car back to the dealership without having to worry about depreciation. If I had purchased this car, I'm sure the car would see a 20k+ depreciation in 2 years which would mean I would have been taking a hit again.

There are lease deals that make sense and some that don't. The CLA45 AMG that I was looking at made absolute no sense to lease as the MSRP was in the 56k mark for the car I wanted yet they wanted 1000+/- a month with a huge down payment. The Porsche Macan was the same way where the car came out to 58k, wanted 5000 down and somewhere in the 700's a month.


Working in the auto industry has been interesting as I've been able to see from others in the industry what cars are good for leasing and not but I definitely have become a supporter of leasing as there are some insane deals out there. I really don't understand those people that say leasing is for people who are trying to stunt with no money. It's called being smart with your money and finding out how to get the car you want for the best possible price.
 
I was always against the idea of leasing until I finally decided to lease this time around.

I've had 3 purchased cars and every single one of them was a huge hit in terms of depreciation.

Certain cars it makes sense to buy and if you drive your cars at least 8-10 years, then maybe you'll get your money's worth but for me having switched out every 2-3 years, I took a hit each time. Not only did I take a hit in terms of car value, I also ran into issues with maintenance on some of the cars I had purchased and the maintenance was starting to cost 1000+ at times.

The reason I chose to lease my current car is because the lease deal was too good of a deal and it made absolutely no sense to buy the car. In a 2 year lease term, I'm paying 13,650 with all taxes etc included on a 60k MSRP car for 15k miles a year. After 2 years, I'm going to throw this car back to the dealership without having to worry about depreciation. If I had purchased this car, I'm sure the car would see a 20k+ depreciation in 2 years which would mean I would have been taking a hit again.

There are lease deals that make sense and some that don't. The CLA45 AMG that I was looking at made absolute no sense to lease as the MSRP was in the 56k mark for the car I wanted yet they wanted 1000+/- a month with a huge down payment. The Porsche Macan was the same way where the car came out to 58k, wanted 5000 down and somewhere in the 700's a month.


Working in the auto industry has been interesting as I've been able to see from others in the industry what cars are good for leasing and not but I definitely have become a supporter of leasing as there are some insane deals out there. I really don't understand those people that say leasing is for people who are trying to stunt with no money. It's called being smart with your money and finding out how to get the car you want for the best possible price.

this guy gets it
 
I was always against the idea of leasing until I finally decided to lease this time around.

I've had 3 purchased cars and every single one of them was a huge hit in terms of depreciation.

Certain cars it makes sense to buy and if you drive your cars at least 8-10 years, then maybe you'll get your money's worth but for me having switched out every 2-3 years, I took a hit each time. Not only did I take a hit in terms of car value, I also ran into issues with maintenance on some of the cars I had purchased and the maintenance was starting to cost 1000+ at times.

The reason I chose to lease my current car is because the lease deal was too good of a deal and it made absolutely no sense to buy the car. In a 2 year lease term, I'm paying 13,650 with all taxes etc included on a 60k MSRP car for 15k miles a year. After 2 years, I'm going to throw this car back to the dealership without having to worry about depreciation. If I had purchased this car, I'm sure the car would see a 20k+ depreciation in 2 years which would mean I would have been taking a hit again.

There are lease deals that make sense and some that don't. The CLA45 AMG that I was looking at made absolute no sense to lease as the MSRP was in the 56k mark for the car I wanted yet they wanted 1000+/- a month with a huge down payment. The Porsche Macan was the same way where the car came out to 58k, wanted 5000 down and somewhere in the 700's a month.


Working in the auto industry has been interesting as I've been able to see from others in the industry what cars are good for leasing and not but I definitely have become a supporter of leasing as there are some insane deals out there. I really don't understand those people that say leasing is for people who are trying to stunt with no money. It's called being smart with your money and finding out how to get the car you want for the best possible price.
You've got to ask yourself though, why would any dealership lease you a car and then take it back in 36 months knowing it's depreciated more than the the leasee had paid into it? You can't just make up losses on volume.
 
^ Manufacturers can artificially inflate residuals. They also tend to control the pre-owned market for cars less than 3 years old, meaning they can essentially set the prices to whatever they want. This is why you'll see 1-2 year old Carreras still going for 85-90% of MSRP. This combination means they can steer buyers in any direction they want (ie. into a lease vs. buying outright).
 
You've got to ask yourself though, why would any dealership lease you a car and then take it back in 36 months knowing it's depreciated more than the the leasee had paid into it? You can't just make up losses on volume.

It's interesting but with incentives etc. they make it work somehow and the dealer I went to is one that that is one of the largest in southern california and in the west coast I believe and they seem to be known as the dealer that is all about pushing units rather than profit. Many other dealers in southern california couldn't come close to the price I got from this dealer so it's all about finding the right dealer. I don't know how the dealer is going to take in my car after and make money off it as a CPO car but that's for them to figure out. My main goal is to get the best car for the best price possible.

What car is it?

It's a 2014 Lexus GS350 F-sport.
 
What are my fellow NTers take on trading in a FULLY OWNEd Vehicle for a lease?
 
What are my fellow NTers take on trading in a FULLY OWNEd Vehicle for a lease?

Depends on what kind of car.

I want to trade in an M5 since it is now out of warranty.

Saw at my dealership they had 5-series for lease with $0 down and at only $466 a month.

If you own a reliable car like a Honda Accord etc then just keep it unless you really need a new car or if you want to stunt.
 
im so pressed on getting a new ram 1500 im contemplating leasing, but more than likely im going to settle with a 04-08 one 
 
What are my fellow NTers take on trading in a FULLY OWNEd Vehicle for a lease?
Terrible idea. You're trading something with no payment, for something you won't own after paying $xx,xxx. Just get a newer vehicle with the proceeds from your car + savings.
 
im so pressed on getting a new ram 1500 im contemplating leasing, but more than likely im going to settle with a 04-08 one 

Been looking at pickups a lot lately and I'll probably get something in the next year. I dig the ram but Chrysler reliability keeps me hesitant. I'm leaning more towards the f150 even though I think I like the ram slightly more style wise.
 
im going back and forth with financing vs buying a used car.

I could buy a 2005 expedition or quest right now with 5k cash and its mine.

The same 5k cash would be a nice downpayment on a new car.

what to do, what to do?
 
im going back and forth with financing vs buying a used car.

I could buy a 2005 expedition or quest right now with 5k cash and its mine.

The same 5k cash would be a nice downpayment on a new car.

what to do, what to do?

In another few years you're going to be buying another used car if you cop a 2005 expedition

Get something newer that is CPO
 
used no debt shawdi 
Thats what Im thinking. I dont need another monthly bill


In another few years you're going to be buying another used car if you cop a 2005 expedition

Get something newer that is CPO
Lord willing, in a few years I'll have a different job situation where I'll be able to buy new with a lot more cash.

Im thinking used right now as a temporary solution.
 
 
im going back and forth with financing vs buying a used car.

I could buy a 2005 expedition or quest right now with 5k cash and its mine.

The same 5k cash would be a nice downpayment on a new car.

what to do, what to do?
In another few years you're going to be buying another used car if you cop a 2005 expedition

Get something newer that is CPO
Buy used. Bank the "payment" and you'll be able to buy something A LOT better in 3-5 years time. Not to mention a 2005 car has seen almost all of the depreciation it'll see during its lifetime whereas a new car will lose ~60% of its value in the first 5 years.
 
lease away brothers. Like someone said.. most of those that are hating on leasing probably dont even qualify for one.

I am happy. and it makes sense for me and my goals.


simple.

Retro that new IS a lease?

How does leasing work with car mods??
 
Retro that new IS a lease?

How does leasing work with car mods??



I leased the IS because i KNOW i aint gonna keep it any longer than 3 years.

I did a bolt on F sport exhaust, added suspension, wheels and tires.


honestly, it all depends on the mods.. I will not touch engine at all. Suspension is whatever as long as you do it correctly. I don't worry about it because my homie owns a shop and works on all makes/models. I pay him with a 6 pack and get 500-600 worth of work done. I help him out here and there but he does most of the work. I would not mess with intakes/turbos or any other item like that. Dealership ONLY cares how the vehicle is returned. Plus you can also SELL or trade in your car ANYWHERE, not only where you leased it.

If I were to walk into another dealership right now, I would still go through the same process as if I owned it. Leasing means nothing to whoever is buying your car. They just care about what its worth to what they are offering you. I am in the business and Leasing is looked at as never owning yet you can eventually if you want to.

People will always have a yes/no mentality on leasing because thats just how it is.


I would never buy used anymore

I would NEVER buy a luxury car due to depreciation and I would most definitely not overly mod a leased vehicle. I love having a new car every 2-3 years and Don't want to worry about being upside down. If it's in my favor at the end of the lease I trade it for something else and bank on the equity or I simply break even and look for a diff car OR I simply walk away and say THANK YOU. 9/10 people NEVER walk away and they either terminate their lease early and get into something else or wait til its all completed and then trade it in.


this whole " u only lease cuz u cant afford the payment" crap is BS. lol and it's funny because i drop more on shoes a month than I would on a car..
 
BTW

the M4 I am looking at.. I will most definitely lease... why? it's a BMW.


value goes to the gutter

and now BMW offers 4yrs/50k maintenance included on ALL their whips so I can drive it for 3yrs, never hit 50k and never drop a dime in services... When I get out of it if it held equity, buy something else.. if it breaks even, still get something else..and if I get it appraised and iam upside down by 5-10k i will most definitely walk away... Simple , easy and My decision.
 
Been having my car for 6 years...

And willing to have put another 2 or 3...

I've come to the conclusion that leasing isn't for me.

I dont need the allure of a new whip



Y'all keep leasing doe. :hat
 
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