OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD : VOL. MOST. ANTICIPATED. PLAYOFFS. EVER?

[gangsta207therevolution]

bhzmafia14 wrote:

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jmause3 wrote:

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Bigmike23 wrote:

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Arthur/Gibson are just about equal
ummmmmmmm no

and why would the bulls give up all its front court depth with noah out and boozer and his history of always getting hurt?

and mayo is playing like dog $%$! so what vaule does he really have to be asking for the moon?
exactly.

Before Booz came back Taj was playing very well.  There aint no way Arthur and Gibson are equal

Just like before Zbo came back, Arthur was playing very well.
I know how good Taj is, but you can't down play how good Arthur has been this season prior to him getting limited minutes once Zbo came back. I'm sure the two of you haven't seen him anyway, just like mike was saying OJ been playing like #$@%. 

He's around 17ppg in 24 minutes the past 6 or 7 games. 

 Also, you don't take away his first two seasons of productivity because of his first 30 games of this season. And he's actually starting to play on the level he was playing on his first two seasons off the bench. 

Either way it goes, giving up OJ and Arthur is ******ed. Ya'll may not feel the same way because you may undervalue them, but oh well. Let's just agree to disagree.



Even in that equation
Gibson, Johnson, Bogans and the Charlotte pick for Mayo and Arthur.
Not that Mayo isnt the best player in the deal , but does he have upside playing along side Rose Boozer Deng?
Him equaling what he did in his first 2 years would make the deal plausable, but your talking 2 rotation players in Bogans and Gibson and leaving Chicago a big short.
Its a fair deal from a talent stand point but does it make sense.....
at the very least Chicago goes from a starting 2 guard away to a rotation big away and yes its a move foward but financially with its commitments to Rose Boozer Deng and Noah both in the present and future. Chicago is going to need cheap talent. Adding another future 7-8 million dollar at minimum commitment in Mayo might not be the move unless your sure he is the missing piece.
On the wing
Mayo, Korver, Deng, Brewer, thats good enough to warrant giving up Johnson who has prob the most upside sans Mayo in the deal. but in the front court Asik, Noah, Boozer and Thomas arent enough Im not sure with Gibson it was enough. And you dont have enough to go get another big, unless it involves the much fabled Luol Deng trade.
Mayo is prob the only player where giving up Gibson isnt just an upgrade at the 2 just to have a better player who wont help the Bulls get closer to a title this season or next.

Mayo and Arthur for Gibson, Johnson and a first round pick sounds about right. Bulls throwing in a second first rounder could be asking for too much, but is tolerable as well.
Thats not a plausable deal for Memphis. But this sounds and works better.
Arthur and Mayo for Gibson, Johnson, Bogans, the first round pick of Charlotte and cash.
Cash is the deal breaker LMAO
BHZ your delusional to think someone is going to deal for Zach though.
  

 

[gangsta207therevolution]

bhzmafia14 wrote:

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jmause3 wrote:

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Bigmike23 wrote:

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Arthur/Gibson are just about equal
ummmmmmmm no

and why would the bulls give up all its front court depth with noah out and boozer and his history of always getting hurt?

and mayo is playing like dog $%$! so what vaule does he really have to be asking for the moon?
exactly.

Before Booz came back Taj was playing very well.  There aint no way Arthur and Gibson are equal

Just like before Zbo came back, Arthur was playing very well.
I know how good Taj is, but you can't down play how good Arthur has been this season prior to him getting limited minutes once Zbo came back. I'm sure the two of you haven't seen him anyway, just like mike was saying OJ been playing like #$@%. 

He's around 17ppg in 24 minutes the past 6 or 7 games. 

 Also, you don't take away his first two seasons of productivity because of his first 30 games of this season. And he's actually starting to play on the level he was playing on his first two seasons off the bench. 

Either way it goes, giving up OJ and Arthur is ******ed. Ya'll may not feel the same way because you may undervalue them, but oh well. Let's just agree to disagree.



Even in that equation
Gibson, Johnson, Bogans and the Charlotte pick for Mayo and Arthur.
Not that Mayo isnt the best player in the deal , but does he have upside playing along side Rose Boozer Deng?
Him equaling what he did in his first 2 years would make the deal plausable, but your talking 2 rotation players in Bogans and Gibson and leaving Chicago a big short.
Its a fair deal from a talent stand point but does it make sense.....
at the very least Chicago goes from a starting 2 guard away to a rotation big away and yes its a move foward but financially with its commitments to Rose Boozer Deng and Noah both in the present and future. Chicago is going to need cheap talent. Adding another future 7-8 million dollar at minimum commitment in Mayo might not be the move unless your sure he is the missing piece.
On the wing
Mayo, Korver, Deng, Brewer, thats good enough to warrant giving up Johnson who has prob the most upside sans Mayo in the deal. but in the front court Asik, Noah, Boozer and Thomas arent enough Im not sure with Gibson it was enough. And you dont have enough to go get another big, unless it involves the much fabled Luol Deng trade.
Mayo is prob the only player where giving up Gibson isnt just an upgrade at the 2 just to have a better player who wont help the Bulls get closer to a title this season or next.

Mayo and Arthur for Gibson, Johnson and a first round pick sounds about right. Bulls throwing in a second first rounder could be asking for too much, but is tolerable as well.
Thats not a plausable deal for Memphis. But this sounds and works better.
Arthur and Mayo for Gibson, Johnson, Bogans, the first round pick of Charlotte and cash.
Cash is the deal breaker LMAO
BHZ your delusional to think someone is going to deal for Zach though.
  

 

[yeeupp]

Originally Posted by rck2sactown

Originally Posted by YEEUPP

Originally Posted by PMatic

Originally Posted by Im Not You

Knicks have to find a big to put next to Amare.

We'll give you Andray Blatche for some Halal and an MTA card

If the Knicks can't get Melo, they gotta use Eddy Curry's expiring for a center like Samuel Dalembert or Joel Pryzbilla.

Would Sacramento do it ?

No, why? Because Sammy is also an expiring contract, and he is also contributing to the team. Eddy Curry is an older lazier fatter DMC, we don't need that

Plus there is no point in swapping expiring contracts.

I guess we gotta show Dalembert how many Haitians there are in NY, so he can come here.

 

[yeeupp]

Originally Posted by rck2sactown

Originally Posted by YEEUPP

Originally Posted by PMatic

Originally Posted by Im Not You

Knicks have to find a big to put next to Amare.

We'll give you Andray Blatche for some Halal and an MTA card

If the Knicks can't get Melo, they gotta use Eddy Curry's expiring for a center like Samuel Dalembert or Joel Pryzbilla.

Would Sacramento do it ?

No, why? Because Sammy is also an expiring contract, and he is also contributing to the team. Eddy Curry is an older lazier fatter DMC, we don't need that

Plus there is no point in swapping expiring contracts.

I guess we gotta show Dalembert how many Haitians there are in NY, so he can come here.

 

[mronegative]

lotta hate you holdin back now *tears* 

 

*looks at his contract*

 

[mronegative]

lotta hate you holdin back now *tears* 

 

*looks at his contract*

 

[im not you]

/\ We saved 20 million in that deal.

We won.

 

[im not you]

/\ We saved 20 million in that deal.

We won.

 

[do be doo]

Originally Posted by YEEUPP

Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

I really hope the Mavs lose to Toronto on JA's birthday.

Mavs lost

Wait is this dude Matt Barnes a NTer???

Real talk we are playing like $^%# BUT its a marathon not a sprint. You can hop off the bandwagon if u want to but ull be sorry... about 10 hours ago via ÜberTwitter Retweeted by 100+ people     

 

[do be doo]

Originally Posted by YEEUPP

Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

I really hope the Mavs lose to Toronto on JA's birthday.

Mavs lost

Wait is this dude Matt Barnes a NTer???

Real talk we are playing like $^%# BUT its a marathon not a sprint. You can hop off the bandwagon if u want to but ull be sorry... about 10 hours ago via ÜberTwitter Retweeted by 100+ people     

 

[CP1708]

If he is, he sounds like a moron with that marathon/sprint crap. 

Isn't that what you were claimin the last few years, then you sprinted your @#$ out the playoffs each time?  

So Matt needs a new slogan asap. 

I don't know his name, but that dude who calls games with Sean Elliot is a damn loser.  I honest to God thought he was going to blow a gasket last night.  "RICHARD JEFFERSON FOR THREEEEEEEE HA HA, HOW YOU LIKE THAT, OH BABY........!"


The Score? 



3-2. 

GG Doo, I can see you smiling 5 states away. 

 

[CP1708]

If he is, he sounds like a moron with that marathon/sprint crap. 

Isn't that what you were claimin the last few years, then you sprinted your @#$ out the playoffs each time?  

So Matt needs a new slogan asap. 

I don't know his name, but that dude who calls games with Sean Elliot is a damn loser.  I honest to God thought he was going to blow a gasket last night.  "RICHARD JEFFERSON FOR THREEEEEEEE HA HA, HOW YOU LIKE THAT, OH BABY........!"


The Score? 



3-2. 

GG Doo, I can see you smiling 5 states away. 

 

[shuges]

Kevin Martin, Houston (PER 22.5
Here's an amazing statfor you: Martin leads the league in both 3-pointers made and freethrows made. He'll be the first player in history to accomplish thatdouble if he keeps it up the rest of the season.

Even more amazing, perhaps, is that he's doing this while playingonly 31.8 minutes per game. As a result, Martin's scoring average(23.4) looks good rather than amazing, but on a per-minute basis, only Kobe Bryant scores more frequently.

Stud.

Always loved dude's game.

 

[shuges]

Kevin Martin, Houston (PER 22.5
Here's an amazing statfor you: Martin leads the league in both 3-pointers made and freethrows made. He'll be the first player in history to accomplish thatdouble if he keeps it up the rest of the season.

Even more amazing, perhaps, is that he's doing this while playingonly 31.8 minutes per game. As a result, Martin's scoring average(23.4) looks good rather than amazing, but on a per-minute basis, only Kobe Bryant scores more frequently.

Stud.

Always loved dude's game.

 

[proshares]

I was shocked to read that about Martin. I know he's one of the better scorer's in the league when healthy but still. Especially on Houston.

 

[proshares]

I was shocked to read that about Martin. I know he's one of the better scorer's in the league when healthy but still. Especially on Houston.

 

[shuges]

Spurs are tough.

And yeah Pro, the stat that surprised me the most was his mpg. Thanks for posting that stuff.

 

[shuges]

Spurs are tough.

And yeah Pro, the stat that surprised me the most was his mpg. Thanks for posting that stuff.

 

[proshares]

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[h3]Trending team: Houston Rockets winning with offense[/h3]
Last week, Insider's John Hollinger took a look at how resurgent play from Kyle Lowry and the resulting benefit to Kevin Martin has helped the Rockets get back in the playoff race after a poor start to the season. What is worth noting is that Houston was hardly dismal on the offensive end even early in the season, when a leaky defense was costing Houston wins. As a result, the step forward Houston has taken on offense has made the team one of the most potent attacks in the league.

Through the end of November, the Rockets were averaging 0.6 points per 100 possessions fewer than their opponents typically allowed, making them a slightly below-average offense. In December, Houston has scored 6.0 points better than their opponents' average per 100 possessions. Only the San Antonio Spurs have an offensive rating so much higher than league average over the course of the season.

Even averaging their slower start with their stronger recent play, the Rockets rank eighth in the NBA with an offensive rating of 111.5 points per 100 possessions. The last time Houston was one of the league's 10 best offenses was 2000-01, when Steve Francis led a young core that placed the Rockets sixth in the NBA in offensive rating. Under Jeff Van Gundy, who arrived in Clutch City two years later, and current coach Rick Adelman, Houston has won almost entirely with defense. The Rockets' best offensive team of the past decade was the 2006-07 squad, which was slightly better than average. The Houston team that won 55 games and a playoff series in 2007-08 ranked 17th in the league in offensive rating. So if the Rockets are to return to the postseason after a one-year absence, they'll do so with an entirely different formula for winning basketball.
[h3]Trending player: LaMarcus Aldridge, PF, Portland Trail Blazers[/h3]
The four-game stretch preceding the Blazers' Christmas loss to the Golden State Warriors was Aldridge's best of the season. He recorded double-doubles in all four games, averaging 29.3 points and 12.8 rebounds per game. A number of factors came together to aid Aldridge's performance, including his ability to avoid foul trouble and stay on the floor for 40-plus minutes a night with the Blazers shorthanded in the frontcourt, as well as the team's improved offensive creativity. The biggest reason for Aldridge's improvement, however, was his finishing at the rim.

Aldridge is perennially one of the league leaders in slam dunks -- through Dec. 22, he ranked fourth in the NBA according to The Oregonian -- allowing him to finish a high percentage of his attempts at the bucket. Per Hoopdata.com, Aldridge's shooting percentage at the rim last season (70.7 percent) ranked 10th in the league among players with at least 100 attempts at the rim. Aldridge shot at least 67.0 percent on close shots each of the previous three seasons.

For whatever reason, Aldridge was not finishing at the same rate early this season. Prior to his recent hot streak, Aldridge had been shooting just 57.5 percent at the basket area. That changed in a big way during his four-game surge. In those games, Aldridge missed just three shots at the rim in 29 attempts. Sixteen of them, The Oregonian reported, were dunks.

While Aldridge increased how many shots he took from close to the hoop (up from 5.4 per game to 7.3 during his hot streak), the biggest difference was in his finishing those attempts. That was reinforced by the loss to Golden State. Aldridge attempted 10 shots at the rim, a total surpassed this season only by the 11 at-rim attempts he had in Portland's previous game, but made just five of them. Whether Aldridge can continue playing at the high level he reached last week may be as simple as watching his accuracy at the rim.
[h3]Trending team: Cleveland Cavaliers slumping[/h3]
The month of December has been significantly less fun in Cleveland. Sunday's 98-97 home loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves left the Cavaliers in danger of completing the month with just one win. Beginning with their lopsided loss to the Miami Heat in LeBron James' return to Cleveland, the Cavaliers have gone 1-12 so far in the month, with two games left versus Orlando and at Charlotte before the calendar turns to 2011.

Through the end of November, a strong record in close games helped mask how much the Cavaliers were struggling. They won seven of their first 10 games decided by fewer than 10 points. Since then, Cleveland has lost four out of five games by single-digit margins, including Sunday's heartbreaker, in which Antawn Jamison missed the go-ahead attempt just before the buzzer. The Cavaliers' lone win came when they surprised the New York Knicks in overtime on Dec. 18. Improbably, Cleveland is one of just three teams to beat the Knicks this month, along with East powers Miami and Boston.

The Cavaliers still have yet to win a game this season by at least 10 points -- the only team in the league remaining in that category. Meanwhile, lopsided losses are piling up. Cleveland has lost four games in December by 20 points or more, explaining why the Cavaliers now have far and away the league's worst point differential. They have been outscored by an average of 8.9 points per game. During December, that deficit has increased to 14.5 points per game. By contrast, at this time last season, the 2-28 New Jersey Nets had been outscored by just 11.2 points per game. With eight wins already, Cleveland is in no danger of threatening NBA records for futility, but over the past month, the Cavaliers have been far and away the league's worst team.

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[proshares]

[h3]

[h3]Trending team: Houston Rockets winning with offense[/h3]
Last week, Insider's John Hollinger took a look at how resurgent play from Kyle Lowry and the resulting benefit to Kevin Martin has helped the Rockets get back in the playoff race after a poor start to the season. What is worth noting is that Houston was hardly dismal on the offensive end even early in the season, when a leaky defense was costing Houston wins. As a result, the step forward Houston has taken on offense has made the team one of the most potent attacks in the league.

Through the end of November, the Rockets were averaging 0.6 points per 100 possessions fewer than their opponents typically allowed, making them a slightly below-average offense. In December, Houston has scored 6.0 points better than their opponents' average per 100 possessions. Only the San Antonio Spurs have an offensive rating so much higher than league average over the course of the season.

Even averaging their slower start with their stronger recent play, the Rockets rank eighth in the NBA with an offensive rating of 111.5 points per 100 possessions. The last time Houston was one of the league's 10 best offenses was 2000-01, when Steve Francis led a young core that placed the Rockets sixth in the NBA in offensive rating. Under Jeff Van Gundy, who arrived in Clutch City two years later, and current coach Rick Adelman, Houston has won almost entirely with defense. The Rockets' best offensive team of the past decade was the 2006-07 squad, which was slightly better than average. The Houston team that won 55 games and a playoff series in 2007-08 ranked 17th in the league in offensive rating. So if the Rockets are to return to the postseason after a one-year absence, they'll do so with an entirely different formula for winning basketball.
[h3]Trending player: LaMarcus Aldridge, PF, Portland Trail Blazers[/h3]
The four-game stretch preceding the Blazers' Christmas loss to the Golden State Warriors was Aldridge's best of the season. He recorded double-doubles in all four games, averaging 29.3 points and 12.8 rebounds per game. A number of factors came together to aid Aldridge's performance, including his ability to avoid foul trouble and stay on the floor for 40-plus minutes a night with the Blazers shorthanded in the frontcourt, as well as the team's improved offensive creativity. The biggest reason for Aldridge's improvement, however, was his finishing at the rim.

Aldridge is perennially one of the league leaders in slam dunks -- through Dec. 22, he ranked fourth in the NBA according to The Oregonian -- allowing him to finish a high percentage of his attempts at the bucket. Per Hoopdata.com, Aldridge's shooting percentage at the rim last season (70.7 percent) ranked 10th in the league among players with at least 100 attempts at the rim. Aldridge shot at least 67.0 percent on close shots each of the previous three seasons.

For whatever reason, Aldridge was not finishing at the same rate early this season. Prior to his recent hot streak, Aldridge had been shooting just 57.5 percent at the basket area. That changed in a big way during his four-game surge. In those games, Aldridge missed just three shots at the rim in 29 attempts. Sixteen of them, The Oregonian reported, were dunks.

While Aldridge increased how many shots he took from close to the hoop (up from 5.4 per game to 7.3 during his hot streak), the biggest difference was in his finishing those attempts. That was reinforced by the loss to Golden State. Aldridge attempted 10 shots at the rim, a total surpassed this season only by the 11 at-rim attempts he had in Portland's previous game, but made just five of them. Whether Aldridge can continue playing at the high level he reached last week may be as simple as watching his accuracy at the rim.
[h3]Trending team: Cleveland Cavaliers slumping[/h3]
The month of December has been significantly less fun in Cleveland. Sunday's 98-97 home loss to the Minnesota Timberwolves left the Cavaliers in danger of completing the month with just one win. Beginning with their lopsided loss to the Miami Heat in LeBron James' return to Cleveland, the Cavaliers have gone 1-12 so far in the month, with two games left versus Orlando and at Charlotte before the calendar turns to 2011.

Through the end of November, a strong record in close games helped mask how much the Cavaliers were struggling. They won seven of their first 10 games decided by fewer than 10 points. Since then, Cleveland has lost four out of five games by single-digit margins, including Sunday's heartbreaker, in which Antawn Jamison missed the go-ahead attempt just before the buzzer. The Cavaliers' lone win came when they surprised the New York Knicks in overtime on Dec. 18. Improbably, Cleveland is one of just three teams to beat the Knicks this month, along with East powers Miami and Boston.

The Cavaliers still have yet to win a game this season by at least 10 points -- the only team in the league remaining in that category. Meanwhile, lopsided losses are piling up. Cleveland has lost four games in December by 20 points or more, explaining why the Cavaliers now have far and away the league's worst point differential. They have been outscored by an average of 8.9 points per game. During December, that deficit has increased to 14.5 points per game. By contrast, at this time last season, the 2-28 New Jersey Nets had been outscored by just 11.2 points per game. With eight wins already, Cleveland is in no danger of threatening NBA records for futility, but over the past month, the Cavaliers have been far and away the league's worst team.

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[scuse7]

And people used to say he wasn't efficient at all and just chucked.

 

[scuse7]

And people used to say he wasn't efficient at all and just chucked.

 

[mister916]

Originally Posted by SHUGES

Kevin Martin, Houston (PER 22.5
Here's an amazing statfor you: Martin leads the league in both 3-pointers made and freethrows made. He'll be the first player in history to accomplish thatdouble if he keeps it up the rest of the season.

Even more amazing, perhaps, is that he's doing this while playingonly 31.8 minutes per game. As a result, Martin's scoring average(23.4) looks good rather than amazing, but on a per-minute basis, only Kobe Bryant scores more frequently.

Stud.

Always loved dude's game.

I miss K-Mart. Glad he's doing well over there.

 

[mister916]

Originally Posted by SHUGES

Kevin Martin, Houston (PER 22.5
Here's an amazing statfor you: Martin leads the league in both 3-pointers made and freethrows made. He'll be the first player in history to accomplish thatdouble if he keeps it up the rest of the season.

Even more amazing, perhaps, is that he's doing this while playingonly 31.8 minutes per game. As a result, Martin's scoring average(23.4) looks good rather than amazing, but on a per-minute basis, only Kobe Bryant scores more frequently.

Stud.

Always loved dude's game.

I miss K-Mart. Glad he's doing well over there.

 

[pmatic]

Shooting guards Jackson and Mayo on Bulls' radar

NBA sources tell us the Bulls are one of the most aggressive teams in the NBA trade market as they try to find a scoring guard who is a good fit with All-Star point Derrick Rose.

USC coach Kevin O'Neill, a longtime college head coach and NBA assistant has experience with Stephen Jackson and O.J. Mayo, both of whom reportedly on the Bulls radar.

"Jackson is a better shooter and probably is a better fit alongside Rose," O'Neill said. "Mayo is more of a slasher and wants the ball in his hands to take it to the basket, which takes the ball out of Rose's hands. (That's why) Jackson is probably a better complement to Rose."
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