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i think bosh has a fifteen percent trade kicker. But no no trade clause
OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD : VOL. MOST. ANTICIPATED. PLAYOFFS. EVER?
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i think bosh has a fifteen percent trade kicker. But no no trade clause
On Bosh, he's just a wrong fit for the two of them. I should have realized that from day 1. Spoelstra is an exceptional coach as he's shown this season. I've always said that he's been using Bosh wrong in the system but maybe there's no place for his kind of game. They used him as a typical PF in the post at the beginning and started out slow and now he's just out of whack staying outside basically.
Bron I think still has that same intensity on the defensive side but I agree, at times he looks very laid back and lazy on offense. That whole team does. I still think he's the MVP though. Slight edge over Rose. Getting shut down by Hinrich slid him down a little bit.
With Chicago, I think it'd be more of them looking back and saying "Good thing we didn't sign him." You take any piece away from that team for Bron, especially Deng, and I think you leave them worse off than they are TBH. I don't think they still afford to give Boozer a contract with Noah/Rose and the bench players though, I could be wrong. A big part of their success is the defense at that 3 spot.
Riley is going to coach next year
Haslem coming back, at least you know you have someone who can make a jumper when it counts.
On Bosh, he's just a wrong fit for the two of them. I should have realized that from day 1. Spoelstra is an exceptional coach as he's shown this season. I've always said that he's been using Bosh wrong in the system but maybe there's no place for his kind of game. They used him as a typical PF in the post at the beginning and started out slow and now he's just out of whack staying outside basically.
Bron I think still has that same intensity on the defensive side but I agree, at times he looks very laid back and lazy on offense. That whole team does. I still think he's the MVP though. Slight edge over Rose. Getting shut down by Hinrich slid him down a little bit.
With Chicago, I think it'd be more of them looking back and saying "Good thing we didn't sign him." You take any piece away from that team for Bron, especially Deng, and I think you leave them worse off than they are TBH. I don't think they still afford to give Boozer a contract with Noah/Rose and the bench players though, I could be wrong. A big part of their success is the defense at that 3 spot.
Riley is going to coach next year
Haslem coming back, at least you know you have someone who can make a jumper when it counts.
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Can Miami really rely on Haslem though? He's missed practically the entire season.
Also, I'm getting why Boston traded away Perkins for Green and New York didn't go after a traditional big now...Miami (specifically Bosh) is not going to punish them down low and they can switch everything on pick and roll situations defensively.
Also, I'm getting why Boston traded away Perkins for Green and New York didn't go after a traditional big now...Miami (specifically Bosh) is not going to punish them down low and they can switch everything on pick and roll situations defensively.
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Can Miami really rely on Haslem though? He's missed practically the entire season.
Also, I'm getting why Boston traded away Perkins for Green and New York didn't go after a traditional big now...Miami (specifically Bosh) is not going to punish them down low and they can switch everything on pick and roll situations defensively.
Also, I'm getting why Boston traded away Perkins for Green and New York didn't go after a traditional big now...Miami (specifically Bosh) is not going to punish them down low and they can switch everything on pick and roll situations defensively.
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Who's going to take Bosh and that 100 mil contract?
If I was a GM on another squad, you're getting a couple O'Bannens for Bosh and that's it.
Even that's too much.
If I was a GM on another squad, you're getting a couple O'Bannens for Bosh and that's it.
Even that's too much.
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Who's going to take Bosh and that 100 mil contract?
If I was a GM on another squad, you're getting a couple O'Bannens for Bosh and that's it.
Even that's too much.
If I was a GM on another squad, you're getting a couple O'Bannens for Bosh and that's it.
Even that's too much.
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Dang. McGrady's still my fav player though. I wish he could've stayed in Orlando
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Dang. McGrady's still my fav player though. I wish he could've stayed in Orlando
Here's a few of the things I've been noodling.
Are Bron and Wade going to wear down from minutes if they don't get a solid 8 man rotation down?
Which is why I beleive Boston was perfectly fine getting Green, to HELP wear them down a little.
This is too early, but something I have been wondering. What if, they play New York first round, knowing there won't be much D against them in that series. (sorry guys) But THEN, meet either the Bulls or Celtics in the second round, which would be BRUTAL from a defensive standpoint. You go 5-6-7 games against a softer D, and then all of a sudden go up against one of the best defenses in the NBA after just 2 or 3 days, and it HURTS you. It screws your whole rhythm up. And we have seen, their rhythm is fragile.
Could not agree more with him needing to go to Chicago. (I was rooting for the Clippers myself.) But I had Chicago as my 2 pick. Both have younger cores, and more time. Wade will be 30 next season already.
Miami doesn't have as much time as they think they do. And as I have asked, Bron is only 26, but that is the oldest 26 ever. He has WAAAAAAY more games at 26 then Kobe or KG had, and if you go to minutes played, forget it.
He's a beast, but lasting to 30 with X number of minutes is one thing, getting to 30 with XX amount of minutes is another, ya know?
Even if they get the 1, and Orlando gets the 4, that ain't exactly gonna be easy for the Heat either. No matter what, second, and then third round in the EAST is going to be brutal. And Miami has to survive both those series, then win against the West to do what is expected of them. That is some pressure. And as I said, if they have to play Melo/Amare and Billups in round 1, then we're talkin about 20+ incredibly scrutinized playoff games for these guys. And forgive me, but I don't exactly see a lot of mental toughness so far from the 3, starting all the way back to the summer when they handled so many things poorly.
This is going to be a bloodbath of media hype in the next 3 months.
Are Bron and Wade going to wear down from minutes if they don't get a solid 8 man rotation down?
Which is why I beleive Boston was perfectly fine getting Green, to HELP wear them down a little.
This is too early, but something I have been wondering. What if, they play New York first round, knowing there won't be much D against them in that series. (sorry guys) But THEN, meet either the Bulls or Celtics in the second round, which would be BRUTAL from a defensive standpoint. You go 5-6-7 games against a softer D, and then all of a sudden go up against one of the best defenses in the NBA after just 2 or 3 days, and it HURTS you. It screws your whole rhythm up. And we have seen, their rhythm is fragile.
Could not agree more with him needing to go to Chicago. (I was rooting for the Clippers myself.) But I had Chicago as my 2 pick. Both have younger cores, and more time. Wade will be 30 next season already.
Even if they get the 1, and Orlando gets the 4, that ain't exactly gonna be easy for the Heat either. No matter what, second, and then third round in the EAST is going to be brutal. And Miami has to survive both those series, then win against the West to do what is expected of them. That is some pressure. And as I said, if they have to play Melo/Amare and Billups in round 1, then we're talkin about 20+ incredibly scrutinized playoff games for these guys. And forgive me, but I don't exactly see a lot of mental toughness so far from the 3, starting all the way back to the summer when they handled so many things poorly.
This is going to be a bloodbath of media hype in the next 3 months.
Here's a few of the things I've been noodling.
Are Bron and Wade going to wear down from minutes if they don't get a solid 8 man rotation down?
Which is why I beleive Boston was perfectly fine getting Green, to HELP wear them down a little.
This is too early, but something I have been wondering. What if, they play New York first round, knowing there won't be much D against them in that series. (sorry guys) But THEN, meet either the Bulls or Celtics in the second round, which would be BRUTAL from a defensive standpoint. You go 5-6-7 games against a softer D, and then all of a sudden go up against one of the best defenses in the NBA after just 2 or 3 days, and it HURTS you. It screws your whole rhythm up. And we have seen, their rhythm is fragile.
Could not agree more with him needing to go to Chicago. (I was rooting for the Clippers myself.) But I had Chicago as my 2 pick. Both have younger cores, and more time. Wade will be 30 next season already.
Miami doesn't have as much time as they think they do. And as I have asked, Bron is only 26, but that is the oldest 26 ever. He has WAAAAAAY more games at 26 then Kobe or KG had, and if you go to minutes played, forget it.
He's a beast, but lasting to 30 with X number of minutes is one thing, getting to 30 with XX amount of minutes is another, ya know?
Even if they get the 1, and Orlando gets the 4, that ain't exactly gonna be easy for the Heat either. No matter what, second, and then third round in the EAST is going to be brutal. And Miami has to survive both those series, then win against the West to do what is expected of them. That is some pressure. And as I said, if they have to play Melo/Amare and Billups in round 1, then we're talkin about 20+ incredibly scrutinized playoff games for these guys. And forgive me, but I don't exactly see a lot of mental toughness so far from the 3, starting all the way back to the summer when they handled so many things poorly.
This is going to be a bloodbath of media hype in the next 3 months.
Are Bron and Wade going to wear down from minutes if they don't get a solid 8 man rotation down?
Which is why I beleive Boston was perfectly fine getting Green, to HELP wear them down a little.
This is too early, but something I have been wondering. What if, they play New York first round, knowing there won't be much D against them in that series. (sorry guys) But THEN, meet either the Bulls or Celtics in the second round, which would be BRUTAL from a defensive standpoint. You go 5-6-7 games against a softer D, and then all of a sudden go up against one of the best defenses in the NBA after just 2 or 3 days, and it HURTS you. It screws your whole rhythm up. And we have seen, their rhythm is fragile.
Could not agree more with him needing to go to Chicago. (I was rooting for the Clippers myself.) But I had Chicago as my 2 pick. Both have younger cores, and more time. Wade will be 30 next season already.
Even if they get the 1, and Orlando gets the 4, that ain't exactly gonna be easy for the Heat either. No matter what, second, and then third round in the EAST is going to be brutal. And Miami has to survive both those series, then win against the West to do what is expected of them. That is some pressure. And as I said, if they have to play Melo/Amare and Billups in round 1, then we're talkin about 20+ incredibly scrutinized playoff games for these guys. And forgive me, but I don't exactly see a lot of mental toughness so far from the 3, starting all the way back to the summer when they handled so many things poorly.
This is going to be a bloodbath of media hype in the next 3 months.
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he at least brings some toughness. rather have him at 70% than Dampier, Anthony or Z.
I still think there best potential lineup is James/Wade/Miller/Haslem/Bosh. so I give them a tiny bit of a break considering we haven't seen it all year.
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^ i was wondering the same thing, who takes Bosh if that ever occurs, or what do you get for value? if he gets ousted in Miami he turns into a laughing stock to his peers (if he isn't already) and loses the appeal that an Amare even had with being someone another player might go want to play with.
I still think there best potential lineup is James/Wade/Miller/Haslem/Bosh. so I give them a tiny bit of a break considering we haven't seen it all year.
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^ i was wondering the same thing, who takes Bosh if that ever occurs, or what do you get for value? if he gets ousted in Miami he turns into a laughing stock to his peers (if he isn't already) and loses the appeal that an Amare even had with being someone another player might go want to play with.
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he at least brings some toughness. rather have him at 70% than Dampier, Anthony or Z.
I still think there best potential lineup is James/Wade/Miller/Haslem/Bosh. so I give them a tiny bit of a break considering we haven't seen it all year.
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^ i was wondering the same thing, who takes Bosh if that ever occurs, or what do you get for value? if he gets ousted in Miami he turns into a laughing stock to his peers (if he isn't already) and loses the appeal that an Amare even had with being someone another player might go want to play with.
I still think there best potential lineup is James/Wade/Miller/Haslem/Bosh. so I give them a tiny bit of a break considering we haven't seen it all year.
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^ i was wondering the same thing, who takes Bosh if that ever occurs, or what do you get for value? if he gets ousted in Miami he turns into a laughing stock to his peers (if he isn't already) and loses the appeal that an Amare even had with being someone another player might go want to play with.
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I'd pay to see Miami/NYK in Round 1 and get to watch that crew walk in to MSG for a game 3. Bosh will piss his capri pants before he gets off the bus.
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I'd pay to see Miami/NYK in Round 1 and get to watch that crew walk in to MSG for a game 3. Bosh will piss his capri pants before he gets off the bus.
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Not the Cavaliers, they have Ryan Hollins.
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Not the Cavaliers, they have Ryan Hollins.
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Houston comes to mind.
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I think Bosh is still tradeable to the right team...Houston maybe? Luis Scola, Thabeet, Kyle Lowery for Bosh + Chalmers? Something like that maybe?
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I think Bosh is still tradeable to the right team...Houston maybe? Luis Scola, Thabeet, Kyle Lowery for Bosh + Chalmers? Something like that maybe?
