OFFICIAL 2010 LOS ANGELES DODGERS THREAD [79-82] : The losing season

Man, my phone is acting mad wild. Whatever though
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[h1]Now it's down to this: Dodgers plan to start Ramon Ortiz on Friday[/h1]
May 10, 2010 |  8:45pm

No further evidence is required. The Dodgers have continually reminded us how thin their starting pitching is.

Still, more reminders keep coming.

On the same day the Dodgers placed Charlie Haeger on the disabled list and recalled John Ely from triple-A Albuquerque and scheduled him to start Tuesday, Manager Joe Torre said Ramon Ortiz is likely to start Friday.

Please restrain your enthusiasm.

That would be the Ortiz still hanging around with his 1-1 record and 5.24 ERA in 16 relief appearances. And for that, your reward is a shot at the starting rotation.

Guess this time Torre was down to the O's.

Of course, he has precious little to choose from, what with the Dodgers trying out pitchers for both the fifth spot and the spot vacated by right-hander Vicente Padilla’s trip to the disabled list on a spot-by-spot basis.

The Dodgers have an off-day Thursday and could skip a starter.

"We're leaning toward giving Ortiz the ball on Friday and giving [Clayton] Kershaw and [Chad] Billingsley an extra day,’’ Torre said. "That's our plan right now -- Ortiz on Friday,  Kershaw on Saturday and Billingsley on Sunday.’’

Unless he goes belly up, Ely is already penciled in as a regular member of the rotation. Ortiz is essentially another emergency tryout. He last started a game in the major leagues for the Twins in 2007.

Torre’s only other real candidate is Carlos Monasterios, the rookie who went four innings in his only start. Guess he didn’t impress.

--Steve Dilbeck


[h1]If Mariners become sellers, could Frank McCourt and the Dodgers pay the price for Cliff Lee?[/h1]
May 10, 2010 |  5:26pm

Could the Dodgers actually pass on Cliff Lee again?

Given the state of their starting pitching, maybe you’re wondering if that’s even a question.

Given that they failed to seriously purse him in the off-season when traded to the Seattle Mariners and their payroll has been in retreat since the McCourts’ divorce became public, maybe you wonder whether there’s even a chance.

This is all dependent upon Lee becoming available, but with the Mariners suffering a disappointing 12-19 start and already trailing the Texas Rangers by 9½ games in the American League West, they’re looking like a team that is going to become a seller.

Lee is making $9 million this year and will become a free agent at the end of the season. Before the Philadelphia Phillies traded him to Seattle, he indicated a desire to test the market this winter.

Lee, who went 4-0 for the Phillies in the postseason last year, only recently joined the Seattle rotation. In two starts, he’s 0-1 with a 2.40 earned-run average.

If the Mariners aren’t going to contend this season and aren’t interested in signing the 31-year-old to a long-term deal, he becomes a prime candidate for a midseason trade.

The Dodgers have been understandably reluctant to trade prospects for a "rental" player in the past. When the Phillies acquired Roy Halladay from Toronto as part of their three-team trade that sent Lee to Seattle, they signed him to a three-year extension at $60 million as part of the deal.

That might look good to Lee, but then so might C.C. Sabathia’s seven-year, $161-million deal with the Yankees. Sabathia is Lee’s former Cleveland teammate.

The Dodgers clearly need another starting pitcher, particularly an ace, and Frank McCourt could seriously use a positive public relations move to prove the divorce hasn’t handcuffed the team financially.

Despite the denials, however, all evidence suggests that it has. And Lee, who offered one of the first clues, might offer the last.

-- Steve Dilbeck
 
I've been saying that the past few weeks about cliff lee. He already said he's gonna test the free agent market this fall. So if the mariners are out of contention, it would be stupid to keep him. But the dodgers might trade the whole farm and let him walk away in the fall
 
Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23

Why not wait until the offseason, before potentially giving Seattle the whole farm?
i think it depends on who else is interested. if there isnt much interest for him, the dodgers can possibly get him for minimal prospects. if theres several teams interested, then you can almost guarantee seattle is going to ask for the whole farm
so i guess it's just a waiting game to see how much interest he drwas from othert teams

  
 
See ya J-Mac and crew, welcome Cliff Lee.

Depending on if the Dodgers are in contention, bring Clifford over.
 
I wouldn't mind having Cliff Lee, but adding extra payroll is not in McCourt's plans.

Sad I know.

I don't think the asking price will be high either since he is close to becoming a free agent.

meh i see it differently..

dude was made of glass... when i had my season tix last year, this other dude with season tix wore a oakland nomar jersey when he came to town.. it was stupid. 

dude had one shining moment in my eyes and it was that 4 back to back home run deal in the ninth.. 

to each their own i guess.  lots of hype behind the dude.. sometimes i thought his wife could probably kick the ball better than he hit.
i dont think he did much but was a good moral guy guess.


Like I said, when Nomar got signed prior to the 2006 season everyone knew his injury history.  He only played 26 games the year before.  However, he was a talented local kid with a Mexican American background.

Nomar was an instant hit.  I will let you check what he did in Boston and then come back with the "lot of hype" card and saying he can't hit
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He hit .303 with 20 hr's and 93 rbi's in 2006.  That's a solid season, plus he played GG caliber defense at a position he never played before (1b, .996 fielding %).  All he did was be an All Star and win Comeback Player of the Year.  Not to mention all the revenue he was generating.  He was the most popular player since Mike Piazza.  The only player that compares is when Manny fell on our laps in 2008.

He tailed off in that 2006 season, but that first half was
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The walk-off home run in the 4 home run game, the grand slam walk off on fan appreciation day.  Countless clutch hits.  He was injured in 2007 and 2008, Nomar still had notable walk off hits and home runs in the 2008 season.

That dude with the jersey is a Nomar fan, he already had a fan base in LA before putting on a Dodger jersey.  I was a fan of his, reason why I had a Boston fitted earlier this decade.

He didn't come to LA with a lot of hype, he had a lot of baggage (injuries, saltiness from Boston) and he produced.
 
What's also sad is that, Dodger fans are so loyal, so any hopes of McCourt selling the team, due to loss of revenue is not going to happen.
 
Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

I wouldn't mind having Cliff Lee, but adding extra payroll is not in McCourt's plans.

Sad I know.

I don't think the asking price will be high either since he is close to becoming a free agent.
are dwindling crowds and concession revenues in his plans?
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Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

I wouldn't mind having Cliff Lee, but adding extra payroll is not in McCourt's plans.

Sad I know.

I don't think the asking price will be high either since he is close to becoming a free agent.

meh i see it differently..

dude was made of glass... when i had my season tix last year, this other dude with season tix wore a oakland nomar jersey when he came to town.. it was stupid. 

dude had one shining moment in my eyes and it was that 4 back to back home run deal in the ninth.. 

to each their own i guess.  lots of hype behind the dude.. sometimes i thought his wife could probably kick the ball better than he hit.
i dont think he did much but was a good moral guy guess.
Like I said, when Nomar got signed prior to the 2006 season everyone knew his injury history.  He only played 26 games the year before.  However, he was a talented local kid with a Mexican American background.

Nomar was an instant hit.  I will let you check what he did in Boston and then come back with the "lot of hype" card and saying he can't hit
roll.gif
.

He hit .303 with 20 hr's and 93 rbi's in 2006.  That's a solid season, plus he played GG caliber defense at a position he never played before (1b, .996 fielding %).  All he did was be an All Star and win Comeback Player of the Year.  Not to mention all the revenue he was generating.  He was the most popular player since Mike Piazza.  The only player that compares is when Manny fell on our laps in 2008.

He tailed off in that 2006 season, but that first half was
eek.gif
.

The walk-off home run in the 4 home run game, the grand slam walk off on fan appreciation day.  Countless clutch hits.  He was injured in 2007 and 2008, Nomar still had notable walk off hits and home runs in the 2008 season.

That dude with the jersey is a Nomar fan, he already had a fan base in LA before putting on a Dodger jersey.  I was a fan of his, reason why I had a Boston fitted earlier this decade.

He didn't come to LA with a lot of hype, he had a lot of baggage (injuries, saltiness from Boston) and he produced.



fair enough...
but like you said he was productive for half of 2006, and hurt for MOST of the rest of his career with us.

just not enough for me personally i guess. 
 
Got a question guys.

I've only been to a handful of Dodger games, so bear with me.

My fiance wants me to go to next Tuesday's game to get her a Ethier bobblehead.

My questions are: how early would I need to show up to guarentee myself one and does it matter which ticket I purchase ($60 ticket vs. $25 ticket)?
 
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