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Taking Wall over CP because of age, is like taking Kawhi over Lebron because of age.

Who would do that?
 
That guy clearly said AGE was a factor in that list. Only reason Kyrie and Wall were on it. If you're starting a franchise, it helps to have really good guys who are just starting to hit their prime. He said CP3 was better today. That much is obvious. The CP haters got so excited when they saw the list that they didn't even read dudes post
 
mgrand15 said:
That guy clearly said AGE was a factor in that list. Only reason Kyrie and Wall were on it. If you're starting a franchise, it helps to have really good guys who are just starting to hit their prime. He said CP3 was better today. That much is obvious. The CP haters got so excited when they saw the list that they didn't even read dudes post
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cp3 has been better most of if not his entire career than wall tho. for instance... in the same time frame.
[table][tr][td]SEASON[/td][td]TEAM[/td][td]GP[/td][td]GS[/td][td]MIN[/td][td]FGM-A[/td][td]FG%[/td][td]3PM-A[/td][td]3P%[/td][td]FTM-A[/td][td]FT%[/td][td]OR[/td][td]DR[/td][td]REB[/td][td]AST[/td][td]BLK[/td][td]STL[/td][td]PF[/td][td]TO[/td][td]PTS[/td][/tr][tr][td]'10-'11[/td][td][/td][td]69[/td][td]64[/td][td]37.8[/td][td]5.8-14.1[/td][td].409[/td][td]0.5-1.7[/td][td].296[/td][td]4.4-5.7[/td][td].766[/td][td]0.5[/td][td]4.1[/td][td]4.6[/td][td]8.3[/td][td]0.5[/td][td]1.8[/td][td]2.5[/td][td]3.8[/td][td]16.4[/td][/tr][tr][td]'11-'12[/td][td][/td][td]66[/td][td]66[/td][td]36.2[/td][td]5.7-13.5[/td][td].423[/td][td]0.0-0.6[/td][td].071[/td][td]4.8-6.1[/td][td].789[/td][td]0.7[/td][td]3.8[/td][td]4.5[/td][td]8.0[/td][td]0.9[/td][td]1.4[/td][td]2.1[/td][td]3.9[/td][td]16.3[/td][/tr][tr][td]'12-'13[/td][td][/td][td]49[/td][td]42[/td][td]32.7[/td][td]6.6-15.0[/td][td].441[/td][td]0.2-0.9[/td][td].267[/td][td]5.0-6.2[/td][td].804[/td][td]0.7[/td][td]3.3[/td][td]4.0[/td][td]7.6[/td][td]0.8[/td][td]1.3[/td][td]2.4[/td][td]3.2[/td][td]18.5[/td][/tr][tr][td]'13-'14[/td][td][/td][td]82[/td][td]82[/td][td]36.3[/td][td]7.1-16.3[/td][td].433[/td][td]1.3-3.8[/td][td].351[/td][td]3.9-4.8[/td][td].805[/td][td]0.5[/td][td]3.6[/td][td]4.1[/td][td]8.8[/td][td]0.5[/td][td]1.8[/td][td]2.7[/td][td]3.6[/td][td]19.3[/td][/tr][tr][td]'14-'15[/td][td][/td][td]79[/td][td]79[/td][td]35.9[/td][td]6.6-14.8[/td][td].445[/td][td]0.8-2.7[/td][td].300[/td][td]3.6-4.6[/td][td].785[/td][td]0.5[/td][td]4.2[/td][td]4.6[/td][td]10.0[/td][td]0.6[/td][td]1.7[/td][td]2.3[/td][td]3.8[/td][td]
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[/td][/tr][/table][table][tr][td]'10-'11[/td][td][/td][td]80[/td][td]80[/td][td]36.0[/td][td]5.4-11.6[/td][td].463[/td][td]0.9-2.3[/td][td].388[/td][td]4.2-4.8[/td][td].878[/td][td]0.5[/td][td]3.6[/td][td]4.1[/td][td]9.8[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]2.4[/td][td]2.5[/td][td]2.2[/td][td]15.9[/td][/tr][tr][td]'11-'12[/td][td][/td][td]60[/td][td]60[/td][td]36.4[/td][td]7.1-14.8[/td][td].478[/td][td]1.3-3.6[/td][td].371[/td][td]4.3-5.0[/td][td].861[/td][td]0.7[/td][td]2.9[/td][td]3.6[/td][td]9.1[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]2.5[/td][td]2.3[/td][td]2.1[/td][td]19.8[/td][/tr][tr][td]'12-'13[/td][td][/td][td]70[/td][td]70[/td][td]33.4[/td][td]5.9-12.2[/td][td].481[/td][td]1.1-3.3[/td][td].328[/td][td]4.1-4.6[/td][td].885[/td][td]0.8[/td][td]3.0[/td][td]3.7[/td][td]9.7[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]2.4[/td][td]2.0[/td][td]2.3[/td][td]16.9[/td][/tr][tr][td]'13-'14[/td][td][/td][td]62[/td][td]62[/td][td]35.0[/td][td]6.5-14.0[/td][td].467[/td][td]1.3-3.4[/td][td].368[/td][td]4.8-5.6[/td][td].855[/td][td]0.6[/td][td]3.7[/td][td]4.3[/td][td]10.7[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]2.5[/td][td]2.5[/td][td]2.3[/td][td]19.1[/td][/tr][tr][td]'14-'15[/td][td][/td][td]82[/td][td]82[/td][td]34.8[/td][td]6.9-14.3[/td][td].485[/td][td]1.7-4.3[/td][td].398[/td][td]3.5-3.9[/td][td].900[/td][td]0.6[/td][td]4.0[/td][td]4.6[/td][td]10.2[/td][td]0.2[/td][td]1.9[/td][td]2.5[/td][td]2.3[/td][td]19.1[/td][/tr][/table]
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Yeah but if you're picking a PG for next 10 years - you go Wall or Kyrie since Paul is most likely at the tail end of his prime and Wall/Kyrie are just about to hit it. That was the criteria he was using.
 
mgrand15 said:
Yeah but if you're picking a PG for next 10 years - you go Wall or Kyrie since Paul is most likely at the tail end of his prime and Wall/Kyrie are just about to hit it. That was the criteria he was using.
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we pick players based on 10 year stints now? o_O
 
mgrand15 said:
That guy clearly said AGE was a factor in that list. Only reason Kyrie and Wall were on it. If you're starting a franchise, it helps to have really good guys who are just starting to hit their prime. He said CP3 was better today. That much is obvious. The CP haters got so excited when they saw the list that they didn't even read dudes post
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Kyrie only does one thing well and that's score. He can't lead a team or facilitate an offense and is a matador on D. There are A LOT of guys who I'd start a team with (even considering age) over Kyrie.

Ask yourself this....do you even consider Kyrie a PG?
 
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TEKtheMAESTRO said:
we pick players based on 10 year stints now? o_O
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If age was a factor in that list, I'm assuming we're talking long term. Why else would age matter? He clearly said CP3 is currently better than both right now.

JJs07 said:
Kyrie only does one thing well and that's score. He can't lead a team or facilitate an offense and is a matador on D. There are A LOT of guys who I'd start a team with (even considering age) over Kyrie.

Ask yourself this....do you even consider Kyrie a PG?
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I mean, before the triple double rampage, tons of people thought Russell wasn't a PG. The knocks against Kyrie are very legit but being an elite shooter, finisher and ballhandler with the tendency to explode can cure a lot of that. He would just need the right team around him to grow as a PG. With LBJ playing point, coach, GM - Kyries job is to score. Can't really think of other PGs Id take over him outside of Steph, CP3, Russ and Wall. Maybe Conley?
 
JJs07 said:
Kyrie only does one thing well and that's score. He can't lead a team or facilitate an offense and is a matador on D. There are A LOT of guys who I'd start a team with (even considering age) over Kyrie.

Ask yourself this....do you even consider Kyrie a PG?
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bruh no u didnt do him like that. not like that.  a matador or D? just the mental picture alone 
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lawdog1 said:
No, he really does suck. I'm convinced now. I think we should trade him straight up for Jeremy Lin or Ray Felton or someone....
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low grade trolling. 2/8
mgrand15 said:
If age was a factor in that list, I'm assuming we're talking long term. Why else would age matter? He clearly said CP3 is currently better than both right now.
I mean, before the triple double rampage, tons of people thought Russell wasn't a PG. The knocks against Kyrie are very legit but being an elite shooter, finisher and ballhandler with the tendency to explode can cure a lot of that. He would just need the right team around him to grow as a PG. With LBJ playing point, coach, GM - Kyries job is to score. Can't really think of other PGs Id take over him outside of Steph, CP3, Russ and Wall. Maybe Conley?
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im thinkin a normal contract like 5 or 6 years. cp3 got that in him. but the thing is, u said he needs the right team around him to grow as a pg. hes showing growth right now....but only cuz hes playing as a SG since lebron is point. can we really say kyrie has improved as a PG? hes having 0 assist GAMES. entire games with no assists? nah b
 
[emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] Stephen A. "HE'S 6'0" HE CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH!"
 
his size shouldn't matter when he's the team's leader. a leader gets his guys together when a 20 point lead is being squandered and says hey, let's focus, regroup and close this game out. a leader doesn't flop and whine like a 5 year old. chris paul's talent isn't the issue, it's his lack of leadership abilities that are exploited each year. just when he took as step forward in the spurs series he took 2 steps backward.
 
CashBanks said:
John Stockton never won a damn thing, where's all his slander?
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In terms of PG play you have to go with Stockton.

He's the reason Malone is 2nd on the scoring list. As far as the slander, Stockton made it to two finals, but unfortunately he ran into Mike.
 
lawdog1 said:
CashBanks said:
John Stockton never won a damn thing, where's all his slander?
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He got to the Finals twice, so that's much further than CP's ever gotten.
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That + all-time assists and steals leader + NBA ironman (missed like what, 20 games his entire career?).

Gary Payton also said he was the hardest PG he ever checked. But yeah, let's compare him to a conference finals virgin.
 
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