Official 2018 NBA Preseason Thread - Jimmy Butler Does Things

[Quincy McCall]

Like many here said last off-season....the trade off for Jimmy just wasn’t worth it for real. Too many downsides to only become marginally better in the short run.

I wouldn't say marginally better, they were a lotto team the year before. Their worse bet that summer was the Wiggins extension. I don't think Jimmy underperformed or caused any issues that were the fault of the team

 

[frshstunna]

If they trading for Jimmy, BI is probably collateral damage...bringing in another person who needs the rock but thats when Ingram is at his best

 

[B Sox]

Gallinari and Jerome Robinson for Jimmy.

 

[B Sox]

Not really sure what he brings to the table at this point, but whatever...

 

[MVP]

Overrated besides Embiid

 

[B Sox]

Guys, I think I just figured it out....

 

[suberzat1]

I'm good on that trade

 

[wavycrocket]

I wouldn't say marginally better, they were a lotto team the year before. Their worse bet that summer was the Wiggins extension. I don't think Jimmy underperformed or caused any issues that were the fault of the team

That Minny team pre Jimmy trade was trending to be a playoff team within a year or two. They didn’t know how to win games because they were lead by a pair of 21 year olds who were averaging damn 24ppg a piece and noticeably finding their roles, space and had a decent chemistry. Along with Lavine who was putting up close to 20ppg on near 40% from 3 as a 3rd option before his injury. You don’t break that up for a guy that’s going to have you as a middling playoff team at best right now....while those guys that were growing into their roles take a backseat and the spacing, chemistry growth etc gets stunted a lil bit.

I think Minny was trending the right way from a long term team building standpoint. They sped up the process and lost access for a guy that might walk in the summer...or at best...they hit a reset almost 2 years after.

 

[MVP]

That Minny team pre Jimmy trade was trending to be a playoff team within a year or two. They didn’t know how to win games because they were lead by a pair of 21 year olds who were averaging damn 24ppg a piece and noticeably finding their roles, space and had a decent chemistry. Along with Lavine who was putting up close to 20ppg on near 40% from 3 as a 3rd option before his injury. You don’t break that up for a guy that’s going to have you as a middling playoff team at best right now....while those guys that were growing into their roles take a backseat and the spacing, chemistry growth etc gets stunted a lil bit.

I think Minny was trending the right way from a long term team building standpoint. They sped up the process and lost access for a guy that might walk in the summer...or at best...they hit a reset almost 2 years after.

Nah. Them dudes were more than a few years away. They won 31 games the year before and Towns didn't exactly take another leap last year.

 

[ballinsam23]

Noah, THJ, Mudiay for Dieng and Butler works.

 

[dacomeup]

Hiring Thibs for those guys was also awful. Agree that the Jimmy trade was stupid too, though.

 

[ballinsam23]

CJ for Jimmy

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[dennistrane]

Xzibit back

 

[Quincy McCall]

That Minny team pre Jimmy trade was trending to be a playoff team within a year or two. They didn’t know how to win games because they were lead by a pair of 21 year olds who were averaging damn 24ppg a piece and noticeably finding their roles, space and had a decent chemistry. Along with Lavine who was putting up close to 20ppg on near 40% from 3 as a 3rd option before his injury. You don’t break that up for a guy that’s going to have you as a middling playoff team at best right now....while those guys that were growing into their roles take a backseat and the spacing, chemistry growth etc gets stunted a lil bit.

I think Minny was trending the right way from a long term team building standpoint. They sped up the process and lost access for a guy that might walk in the summer...or at best...they hit a reset almost 2 years after.

I don't think what they gave up for Jimmy was too much but I'd agree that they tried to move forward too fast. I don't condemn the Jimmy trade because there's a great chance that Wolves weren't two or even four years away and surrounding Towns with real talent early on could've had real advantages.

 

[wavycrocket]

Hiring Thibs for those guys was also awful. Agree that the Jimmy trade was stupid too, though.

I don't think what they gave up for Jimmy was too much but I'd agree that they tried to move forward too fast. I don't condemn the Jimmy trade because there's a great chance that Wolves weren't two or even four years away and surrounding Towns with real talent early on could've had real advantages.

I’m half serious and half joking....but you gotta “know your personnel”. Jimmy Butler is the last player I’d want to share the wing with Wiggins. Wiggins Canadian. That pairing doomed from the start.

 

[Quincy McCall]

^That's fair. I think if Wolves still stunk they could've had a good shot at some interesting wings in the next few drafts but regardless of anything, I think Jimmy's taking too much of the crapheap for being outgoing when it all should be unequivocally on the Wolves and their commitment to Wiggins.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

You guys are killing me.
This time last year Bulls were getting killed for getting no value in the Jimmy Butler trade.....how time flies

@ Knick fans being Knick fans with Noah/Butler trades

 

[wavycrocket]

You guys are killing me.
This time last year Bulls were getting killed for getting no value in the Jimmy Butler trade.....how time flies

@ Knick fans being Knick fans with Noah/Butler trades

In this thread....there was a healthy dose of posters who predicted this very scenario last year. Almost to a T . You can go back in the old when the trade happened and peep.

 

[MVP]

Lakers should have kept Deng for a couple more weeks. Thibs would have taken him for Jimmy straight up.

 

[hardens beard]

Coaches who have control over their rosters is almost a guaranteed failure.

 

[B Sox]

I wonder if Danny would move Smart and Morris for Jimmy if he's still around in December.

High chance of screwing up chemistry, but could also give them more firepower than Golden State.

 

[hardens beard]

 

[kevlar]

Tobias & Milos for Jimmy unless Jerry has a feeling he's going there anyway next offseason

 

[ballinsam23]

I feel like everytime i tune into a Raptor game Lowry is taking a pull up 3