**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

[antidope]

i mean how many times have i read in here "james harden is the greatest offensive player ever"

morey just made that comment recently, granted he also gave cp3 160M

You've only read it from me probably. I'm the only person I've seen say it. I'll rephrase, this peak of Harden is the greatest offense from a single player I have ever seen. I've never seen someone who can score like he does be that good of a passer.

 

[hardens beard]

i mean how many times have i read in here "james harden is the greatest offensive player ever"

morey just made that comment recently, granted he also gave cp3 160M

"You could argue for him as the best offensive player of all time," Rockets general manager Daryl Morey told ESPN. "To be able to say that with a straight face, and not have it be GM speak or coachspeak, is pretty amazing. There's a whole bunch of ways to measure it, but he's for sure in the conversation as the greatest offensive player ever."

You made your argument with playoff scoring averages.

Some might point to Harden’s ability to have an extreme usage while maintaining efficiency.

 

[KHUFU]

Basketball is still a team game. With Harden putting up magnificent numbers, it still wont change the fact that it is a team game. Golden State is not a cohesive unit right now, and they will become even more fragmented once Cousins enters the fray. Harden's offensive onslaught took advantage of Golden State's issues. He is playing in a fashion that Bernard King once did while with the Knicks, before he tore his acl. Back to back fiddy's, forty consistently, Harden reminds me of that sort of intensity. What he is doing isn't new, he really isn't changing anything. D'Antoni's offensive scheme allows players who have the potential to be volume scorers to succeed. Even Austin Rivers is playing well in that system.

 

[abubakr shaheed]

You've only read it from me probably. I'm the only person I've seen say it. I'll rephrase, this peak of Harden is the greatest offense from a single player I have ever seen. I've never seen someone who can score like he does be that good of a passer.

in that context i can understand, regular season scoring and assists
aesthetically hes definitely not on the level of a kobe who i would put ahead of him

 

[abubakr shaheed]

You made your argument with playoff scoring averages.

Some might point to Harden’s ability to have an extreme usage while maintaining efficiency.

maybe i dont understand what greatest of all time means
i imagine it is along the lines of doing it the best when it matters most

 

[keko jones]

That is 2002 WCF levels of bad

Dead *** I spit my food laughing at this ****. LoL

 

[B Sox]

If Austin Rivers wasn't Doc's son, people would just consider him to be a good role player.

No vitriol.

 

[pums]

You could put bums around Harden and he’d drag that team to the playoffs in the west.
He impacts winning so much because he can control the tempo and takeover an offense since he has the ball in his hands so much.

As good as Anthony Davis is he doesnt make his teammates that much better since hes not a playmaker.

 

[pums]

If Austin Rivers wasn't Doc's son, people would just consider him to be a good role player.

Being Doc Rivers son doesn’t change the fact that he has an annoying face and an annoying jumpshot. That jumper hella ugly.

 

[hardens beard]

If Austin Rivers wasn't Doc's son, people would just consider him to be a good role player.

He’s been a godsend for the Rockets

Watching MCW try and run a team

 

[abubakr shaheed]

If Austin Rivers wasn't Doc's son, people would just consider him to be a good role player.

No vitriol.

i kinda agree with that. but he also has a rich suburban kid jag off vibe

 

[pums]

I dont even think mcw can dominate in China

 

[abubakr shaheed]

He’s been a godsend for the Rockets

Watching MCW try and run a team

thats why i thought morey was losing it, signing mcw and melo in the summer of 2018

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Maximus Meridius told me that his turnovers were clearly detrimental to the success of the team though.

I'm very confused.

Of course if he's dropping 44 and 15 the turnovers can get overlooked but when he's turning it over and losing to the wizards having his team in 14th place it's a problem.

Just make sure ya'll stay through the whole movie cuz we know how the James Harden story ends every year.

 

[100027]

Harden’s issue is being exhausted after putting the team on his back the regular season every year and this season could be worse than ever...

 

[pums]

Lakers vs Rockets playoffs series please.

 

[alchemist iq]

Lakers vs Rockets playoffs series please.

Lakers in 7

 

[pums]

Rondo and CP wont last 7 games

 

[antidope]

Lakers vs Rockets playoffs series please.

Would be everything we need as basketball fans

 

[the natural mystic]

James Harden is legitimately changing the way basketball is played... He doesn't need to win a chip for that to be true. Right this moment he's set to shatter the record for threes attempted in a season, the step back three is now becoming a mirrored shot across the league thanks to James Harden who is hitting them more frequently and at a higher percentage than every other team. No other player in the league has the distinction of being a three level scorer while getting to the line like he does. Not to mention his passing, size, and innate feel for the game

Winning dictates narratives though so he'll never get his due

I get that and that's great but there is no way one can say this has been the James Harden era in the 2010's and pretend Lebron doesn't exist.

Also 3 point attempts are great but that means nothing to me. He is not as efficient as Steph. I would actually take Kawhi before him

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Harden’s issue is being exhausted after putting the team on his back the regular season every year and this season could be worse than ever...

That's why he breaks records for turnovers, bricks 22 straight 3's, went ghost against the Spurs. Exhaustion.

 

[trynafeelmink]

James Harden is legitimately changing the way basketball is played... He doesn't need to win a chip for that to be true. Right this moment he's set to shatter the record for threes attempted in a season, the step back three is now becoming a mirrored shot across the league thanks to James Harden who is hitting them more frequently and at a higher percentage than every other team. No other player in the league has the distinction of being a three level scorer while getting to the line like he does. Not to mention his passing, size, and innate feel for the game

Winning dictates narratives though so he'll never get his due

My guy what? What is harden doing to "Change" the game... He wasn't the first guy to Bring in this wave of shooting a lot of threes. It's working for Harden this season, but i can assure you that most coaches aren't pushing for there star players to dribble the clock down & take a step back contested 28 footer.

James Harden game & shot selection works for HIM, for 98% of the league the shots he takes are Bad shots...

Harden really got ya'll out here going extreme with the takes... You got NT'ers calling people out for saying that one player averaging 5+ turnovers is bad for the team.

You got another dude in here trying to entertain James Harden as the greatest offensive player of all time, and then is stumped as to why another poster brought up his playoff numbers

Ya'll dudes are flat out REACHING

 

[amitt5504]

Lakers vs Rockets playoffs series please.

1 v 8? lol

 

[Quincy McCall]

Harden’s issue is being exhausted after putting the team on his back the regular season every year and this season could be worse than ever...

Fatigue hasn't been as much of a factor as simply losing to better teams.

 

[pmatic]

James and Steph started to change the game in 2015.