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I feel you, I’m not gonna give up on the kid just yet though. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
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I feel you, I’m not gonna give up on the kid just yet though. I guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
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I do find it interesting how much all that young raw talent in Atlanta was played up until we starting talking wins and losses and quantifying improvement.
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I do find it interesting how much all that young raw talent in Atlanta was played up until we starting talking wins and losses and quantifying improvement.
You know the vibesssssssss. But that’s why I’m making sure to ask. Which some ppl are not liking for some weird reason. I’m just curious though
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Re: hawks having youth plus two max slots.
are we sure that method is gonna work? Hear me out. When the dubs drafted those players. Got a title and then added KD everyone thought “wow so all we have to do is tank for 3 years. Get three top 5 players. Hope they play well on rookie deals and in year 2,3,4 of their rookie deals go get two max guys and BOOM titles! On paper this seems great but so far it hasn’t worked for a lot of teams (small sample size). Lakers come to mind when PG13 passed on them. (LeBron was coming regardless). Likely not gonna work for Celtics (although they kind of unintentionally fell into it -they have youth and cap this summer and rumored to not be in running for anyone). This summer will tell a lot of clippers and Knicks strike out since they are next in line to use this strategy. It’s a copy cat league
are we sure that method is gonna work? Hear me out. When the dubs drafted those players. Got a title and then added KD everyone thought “wow so all we have to do is tank for 3 years. Get three top 5 players. Hope they play well on rookie deals and in year 2,3,4 of their rookie deals go get two max guys and BOOM titles! On paper this seems great but so far it hasn’t worked for a lot of teams (small sample size). Lakers come to mind when PG13 passed on them. (LeBron was coming regardless). Likely not gonna work for Celtics (although they kind of unintentionally fell into it -they have youth and cap this summer and rumored to not be in running for anyone). This summer will tell a lot of clippers and Knicks strike out since they are next in line to use this strategy. It’s a copy cat league
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Yes, you are wrong.
If the Knicks & Hawks switched rosters then we would be praising NYK for their slow, steady and silent rebuild while ****ting on the Hawks for:
- trading their franchise player for a salary dump
- making grand proclamations that they are going to clear cap space for 2 max free agents this summer
- missing out on everybody
Look, it sucks. You guys ran into bad luck. Durant was gunna come before he got hurt. You probably would’ve got Kyrie too. **** happens. That’s the way the world turns sometimes.
Y’all gunna get jokes now.
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I wasn’t even gonna mention that in here cuz I hadn’t seen a NTer post it but I saw a reddit post where Lakers fans are now saying Ballmer is secretly paying off all media networks to talk positively about the Clippers and poorly about the Lakers.
Supporters of the most successful, significant franchise in the NBA have become the InfoWars of fanbases...you hate to see it...
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I do find it interesting how much all that young raw talent in Atlanta was played up until we starting talking wins and losses and quantifying improvement.
5-18 to start the year.
24-35 to end the year.
Is that not quantifying improvement.
Nobody is making **** up about the Hawks.
Stop it.
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I think Woj has an axe to grind with Lebron/The Lakers but that **** makes me cringe.
Loser mentality. If your situation is so good you shouldn’t worry about what Balmer or the media is doing.
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Why is the assumption the Knicks have missed out on FAs? I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if KD and Kyrie wound up there. Or Kemba and another lower tier FA.
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Honestly should just put this up on a PowerPoint and leave the room
*note Clippers have won 2 division titles since but other than that still accurate*
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I liked it better when there were 4 of us talking about the Hawks
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I liked it better when there were 4 of us talking about the Hawks
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Wait...this Knicks vs Hawks thing is even serious?
Trae & John Collins are more prized and productive prospects than anybody on the Knicks. Real building blocks. Not only that...the Hawks got a good young coach they believe in. An offensive system. An outlook, pieces in place and building chemistry and culture.
Hawks are killing their rebuild.
Trae & John Collins are more prized and productive prospects than anybody on the Knicks. Real building blocks. Not only that...the Hawks got a good young coach they believe in. An offensive system. An outlook, pieces in place and building chemistry and culture.
Hawks are killing their rebuild.
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Serious question, do you honestly think that most Knicks fans are disappointed if we don't sign anyone in a year where the best FA literally just tore his Achilles a few weeks ago?
I can only speak for myself, but this offseason I'd be happiest if we didn't go all in on a 4 year deal with either a dude recovering from one of the worst injuries in sports or a second tier talent that is only going to hurt our lottery chances next year.
We traded Kristaps because he tore his ACL at 7'3" and came in demanding a trade literally the morning after the Knicks played the Mavs. This was in the works for a while, and the front office was definitely not super eager to offer him a big contract when he turns down the QO this summer which is why there was already a deal on the table (The Mavs were probably colluding too to be honest, but you could tell KP didn't want to be here for a while if you were paying attention). So either we resign KP who hasn't really proven himself and hope he completely recovers from an ACL tear, or we move him for assets and cap room...which is what we did.
Explain to me the best option in this scenario? If we force KP to stay and still pay him out before he returns from his injury, you're saying they didn the right thing right now...right?
I find that hard to believe.
The free agency market is something that the front office played into at times (rarely honestly. If anything they've stayed consistent in saying they would stay the course and continue to be opportunistic. If an opportunity doesn't reveal itself, you don't force it) but that was mainly a national media thing. It's the same game they play every year of putting the Knicks into every story, and y'all recognize it...it's just funnier to run with a false narrative that if the Knicks don't spend all their money this off season they failed again.
You're smarter than that, but get your jokes off.
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The Knicks are better off without them
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And at the end of the day, both LA teams being good helps the city and NBA. A hallway series in the playoffs would be awesome.
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slow rumors week leading up to FA
got the thread
got the thread
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I do find it interesting how much all that young raw talent in Atlanta was played up until we starting talking wins and losses and quantifying improvement.
Trae & Huerter both made all rookie teams. John Collins is widely seen as one of the “next” good bigs in the league.
Guys like Omari Spelman and Cam Reddish are seen as guys with potential.
They got 3 of their 5 starters under rookie contracts...and those guys are productive and only improving.
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We need some news to start breaking. Badly.
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Not saying anyone is making anything up, it's just funny how much vigor you had when you were comparing to the Knicks vs when asked your expectations for the team going forward.
I'm not debating the point, I'm just not even sure why this is such a sticking point.
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Heard George Soros paid off the rest of the league last season to let the Clippers make the postseason
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Open the ESPN app and Jalen is going in on the clippers over what Kevin Arnovitz thinks the Clippers will say in their meeting
Nothing new. Jalen and ESPN hate the Clippers.
Why would they hate the Clippers?
Everything he said makes sense.
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Masai Ujiri staying with the Raptors...everything is lining up
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