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OFFICIAL 2021 NBA PLAYOFF THREAD - YAWNIST WITH THE CLOSEOUT 50 PIECE - BUCKS WITH FIRST CHIP SINCE ‘73 - CP0 LOSES AGAIN
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Nah. Canelo needs a translator. Nayoa. A handful of others on the P4P list.
Same with MMA. Some of the best need translators. Charles Oliveira. Petr Yan. Moreno. Deiveson.
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So you're opinion there is zero advantage of speaking the native langue of a country you are doing marketing in?
Shea Webber became the captain of Montreal Canadians and improved his french skills so he could say some stuff in french at the introductory press conference.
why did he do that? was that a waste of time?
sure yes and the biggest talent in 100 years would be an even bigger deal if he could speak english. there is nothing xenophobic about this.
it's literally nothing like this.
Manny would be an even bigger star if he spoke English well.
its common knowledge
that fighters who can speak well, can command bigger audiences that their skills alone warrant.
Floyd Mayweather despite his boring fighting style used his ability to talk to promote his fights and generate and audience.
you know as well as I do that speaking well, and being a good interview helps you sell a fight.
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The world has caught up, but USA is still a powerhouse. Even in 04, that wasn't a matter of Team USA sending its best and just ending up with bronze. Iverson & Duncan were the only 2 from the original squad that had been playing together. The whole rest of the roster was filled in last minute, which is similar to 2021.
And these 2 exhibitions losses are still very much an after-effect of COVID, because we're still playing the Finals in the middle of July when that's normally done by the middle of June.
If the USA were to send it's 6 current yearly MVP candidates, (CP3, Kawhi, Lebby, KD, Steph, Har_en), along w/ a couple stretch bigs, a traditional big, a bucket (Booker?), and another 2-way hustler, all would be well.
I'm not saying there should be no cause for concern. There should be. I'm just speaking to the idea 'Welp, USA basketball trash now. From powerhouse in 92 to garbage now.'
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Team USA isn't trash. Most of our best players aren't playing out there.
The world also sort of caught up.
The world also sort of caught up.
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If I was playing basketball in the Philippines and was big star
and someone told me;
"man you'd be a bigger star if you learn Tagalog. kinda sucks the biggest star in the PBA can't speak Tagalog. "
I would not recoil in horror and accuse them of anti canadian immigrant xenophobia.
and neither would anyone in this thread. because it's pretty self evident.
and someone told me;
"man you'd be a bigger star if you learn Tagalog. kinda sucks the biggest star in the PBA can't speak Tagalog. "
I would not recoil in horror and accuse them of anti canadian immigrant xenophobia.
and neither would anyone in this thread. because it's pretty self evident.
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But what else would everyone talk about when everybody reaches now a days for a story?
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If I was playing basketball in the Philippines and was big star
and someone told me;
"man you'd be a bigger star if you learn Tagalog. kinda sucks the biggest star in the PBA can't speak Tagalog. "
I would not recoil in horror and accuse them of anti canadian immigrant xenophobia.
and neither would anyone in this thread. because it's pretty self evident.
The worst enabling excuse I've ever heard someone make is allowing other people to not have a sense of urgency to learn the native language of the land in which someone is residing. My parents immigrated to the USA over 30 years ago. Didn't know a lick of English or had more than $20 to their name.
Now, I exclusively speak with my dad in English. Used to do the same with my mom before she passed away.
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I think it's a copout to say the rest of the world has caught up. These US teams aren't playing up to their own potential. None of these teams they've been losing to have anywhere close to the same caliber of individual talent
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Team > Individual
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This language thing is another instance where comparing regular people to pro athletes is apples to oranges. Most regular people aren’t asked to deal with the media as part of their jobs the way pro athletes are, especially star players.
Ohtani can speak some English and probably does on a day-to-day basis when dealing with his teammates and coaches, etc. But he uses an interpreter for interviews and press conferences and doing so makes perfect sense. Actually makes the process easier and more efficient for all involved.
Ohtani can speak some English and probably does on a day-to-day basis when dealing with his teammates and coaches, etc. But he uses an interpreter for interviews and press conferences and doing so makes perfect sense. Actually makes the process easier and more efficient for all involved.
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You're right. We're head and shoulders above the rest of the talent.
But these teams have been playing together for 10+ years. Hell, most of them have been consistently playing together since they were kids. There's an element of chemistry they have, which our guys don't.
We basically put together a team in less than 2 weeks, while teams like Nigeria and Australia have been practicing since June. Of course we're going to look out of sync.
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If I was playing basketball in the Philippines and was big star
and someone told me;
"man you'd be a bigger star if you learn Tagalog. kinda sucks the biggest star in the PBA can't speak Tagalog. "
I would not recoil in horror and accuse them of anti canadian immigrant xenophobia.
and neither would anyone in this thread. because it's pretty self evident.
English is an official language of the Philippines doe.
I can’t speak to the xenophobia of another country but in America telling an Asian man “dude speak English” at the height of Asian hate is wild.
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In Canada, especially where im from, it's a huge advantage in many jobs to be bilingual.
people will tell you, you want to get this job, or make more money learn French.
my mom tried her damndest to learn french for a promotion. could never quite reach work level fluency.
she did not recoil in horror and say "uh this is xenophobic against immigrants from non romance language speaking countries".
Canada is a bilingual country it's good for your career to know one of or both French and english.
its not xenophobic to state this reality.
people will tell you, you want to get this job, or make more money learn French.
my mom tried her damndest to learn french for a promotion. could never quite reach work level fluency.
she did not recoil in horror and say "uh this is xenophobic against immigrants from non romance language speaking countries".
Canada is a bilingual country it's good for your career to know one of or both French and english.
its not xenophobic to state this reality.
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Didn't Shaq mention in his HoF speech of Yao Ming doing something similar? Homie knew how to speak some English, while everyone outside his teammates assumed he didn't.
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In Canada, especially where im from, it's a huge advantage in many jobs to be bilingual.
people will tell you, you want to get this job, or make more money learn French.
my mom tried her damndest to learn french for a promotion. could never quite reach work level fluency.
she did not recoil in horror and say "uh this is xenophobic against immigrants from non romance language speaking countries".
Canada is a bilingual country it's good for your career to know one of or both French and english.
its not xenophobic to state this reality.
You from Montreal? I got some fam out in Jean Talon.
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of course it makes sense personally for him to use an interpreter.
I don't think anyone should not use an interpreter if they aren't comfortable expressing themselves accurately in the native language.
I def would use an interpreter if I was in another country.
im speaking about the interests of baseball.
which in this case happen to conflict with what may be best for ohtani personally.
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Yea I think that's a copout. KD got blocked by thybulle on a play where he went 1 on 5. Doesn't take 10+ years to know you should pass the ball in that situation.
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nah, just lived very close to the quebec border tho, so being bilingual was very valuable.
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Yeah. I still don’t think it would make a big difference from a marketability standpoint. The same kind of people that would be put off by someone using an interpreter aren’t going to respond much better to hearing someone speaking heavily accented English, IMO.
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At the corporate level sure it would help if he spoke English but at the grassroots level it doesn’t matter what language you speak. Kids get interested by what they see. MJ and the dream team changed basketball forever with their presence.
Selling the game doesn’t equal growing the game.
Selling the game doesn’t equal growing the game.
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my cousin worked for the Rockets in their marketing department when Yao was playing. She said he spoke perfect English.
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1. okay you know what i mean tho, i just pulled a random country. pick any country where the main language is not english. the point still reamins
2. he didn't say "dude speak English"
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I think someone like Big Papi or like Manny Ramirez built a strong connection with the American public with heavily accented English...
that they would not have been able to do if they only spoke through an interpreter.
but we can agree tio disagree
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