OFFICIAL 2021 NBA PLAYOFF THREAD - YAWNIST WITH THE CLOSEOUT 50 PIECE - BUCKS WITH FIRST CHIP SINCE ‘73 - CP0 LOSES AGAIN

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The guy with the most FGA on your team through 2 games shooting 30% as opposed to his regular season 48% is absolutely a big problem.
They were down 49 pernts against a team missing an MVP caliber player. They are over matched . Middleton shooting 48% wouldn’t make it that much closer.
 
1st ballot HOFer who still got like 10 years left in the league and his career is over after a playoff series loss to a better team
NBA careers are defined by titles
No title and your career meant nothing
Isn't that how yall define NBA careers?
 
Uh yes, Shaq and Kobe were the primary offensive weapons. Steph, KD, Klay were, all those examples you said YES they were the primary offensive weapons. :lol:
You’re missing the point. Those teams all had different “primary offensive weapons” with different play styles that played together. The concept of “THE primary weapon” on a championship team is not common in this day and age …. With a few very rare exceptions like Dirk.
 
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Charles Barkley: "That bubble basketball, it was a bunch of bubble gangsters. That dont count. Bubble gangsters dont count."
The Lakers and Lefrauds are bubble gangsters. 2020 NBA Championship doesnt count. No lies told here.

when chuck is source for quotes, it’s time to log off.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Every star and playoff team went to Florida to play. All lost except the lakers.

league figured him out. just build a team like the nets and he'll be exposed
Seems simple enough. Now where can I find a 6’10 wing that can get to any spot on the floor and shoot lights out over the top of any defender? And next I gotta find a pg that got the ball on a string, can also shoot it and finish around the rim. And there has to be another guy who leads the league in 3 point fg%. Someone call mike miller.
 
They were down 49 pernts against a team missing an MVP caliber player. They are over matched . Middleton shooting 48% wouldn’t make it that much closer.
Yes they are overmatched. Don't think anyone would argue that.

I just don't think you can look at the outcome of a game and say hey, it wouldn't have mattered if he made a few more shots. Him going ice cold in the first quarter of a game for example can lead to easy transition points and immediately cause a big run for the Nets. If he actually makes a few, the game can look different. There's more nuance to it.
 
You’re missing the point. Those teams all had different “primary offensive weapons” with different play styles that played together. The concept of “THE primary weapon” on a championship team is not common in this day and age …. With a few very rare exceptions like Dirk.

What? KL/PG primary “weapons”. Trae, KD/Harden/Kyrie, etc. I fail to see what youre trying to say and how its a rarity to have a primary offensive weapon. What do you mean by that exactly and how is Dirk an exception.
 
I don't think anybody actually expects him to be like those guys. He is absolutely better than a "slightly above average player" though. He'd slot in very nicely as a 3rd option on the majority of good teams in the league.

He 1000% needs to be playing better in this series though, and is a big reason for why they are losing.

I agree with you. He does need to be playing better this series, and it is a big reason for why they're losing. But the point I'm trying to make is I don't believe he's best suited for that responsibility. He's not a true #2 option on a team, and that truth gets exposed and augmented in the postseason. Not his fault. I blame management for constructing this team.
 
I mean I get Giannis not wanting to pass up that bread but damn it really would have still been there in the offseason regardless whether he had an injury or not. This is the exact scenario alot of us were saying could happen and is really is perplexing why he didn't keep at least some flexibility with his career. Now the most the Bucks can do is basically fire Bud and probably hire Kidd back 😆.
 
He already won mvp twice.

ain’t no coming back with a vengeance this is who he is.
What does winning MVP twice have to do with winning playoff series and getting his team to the NBA finals?

Since when did yall start defining NBA careers by individual awards?
 
I mean I get Giannis not wanting to pass up that bread but damn it really would have still been there in the offseason regardless whether he had an injury or not. This is the exact scenario alot of us were saying could happen and is really is perplexing why he didn't keep at least some flexibility with his career. Now the most the Bucks can do is basically fire Bud and probably hire Kidd back 😆.
Yeah unless he's going to about-face and demand a move, he gave up all his leverage.

I get it. And I respect it. But those wheels are spinning deeeeeep in the mud right now.
 
The Bucks and the Nets just played a back-to-back a month ago. In both of those games, KD was KD and Kyrie blacked for one of them.

That's a given. We know that's going to happen. The Bucks were able to win both of those games because Giannis, Jrue, and Khris kept up w/ BKN's big dogs (particularly by making 3's). They cannot afford to get mediocre games from their main guys...and outside of Giannis in game 1 that's been the case thus far.
 
I don’t think that’s fundamentally the question at all. This is a classic example of over reductive.

What is even a “primary offensive weapon” in 2020? Most great teams have multiple. Was Shaq or Kobe the primary offensive weapon? Does it matter (No.) Was Steph or KD the primary offensive weapon? (It doesn’t matter even though some stupid people still argue about it). Was Tim Duncan, Manu, Tony Parker or Kawhi the primary offensive weapon? At different times they all were... Who is the Nets primary offensive weapon this year?

In terms of the actual game, it’s clear that Giannis shouldn’t be the primary ball handler. As far as the “primary offensive weapon” the reason he isn’t is because they need at least one additional primary offensive weapon to win a championship. Can he be one of them? If the talents are complementary, absolutely.

It's not reductive. The answer to all those questions is very obvious.

Shaq was the primary offensive weapon.
his gravity as a post up threat and his ability to pass out of it in the triangle is what put the defense in conflict.

Steph was the primary offensive weapon in GSW,
it's his shooting gravity and off-ball movement that compromised defenses.

The Spurs are an outlier, as it was their the spread pick and roll attack with Manu or Tony initiating.
unless you get like 8 super high IQ basketball players, you aren't replicating that.


Jrue and Kris are perfectly fine ball handlers if Gannis could compromise the defense.

If you had to double gannis in the post or at the elbow or anywhere that wasn't 2.8 inches away from the rim, the bucks would be able to score against the nets.
but he can't so they are doomed.
 
BKY might be the best defense in the Playoffs right now, be curious to see what the numbers say, after all their blowouts they have to be top, but watching them you can tell, they took it to another level that starts with attitude and effort
 


Both fanbases are going crazy about the refs.
**** is wack as hell.

****. Foster doesn’t call the ticky tack stuff but Brothers and Mauer, talk about nonsense

game gonna be hilarious in the first quarter
 
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