Quoted for Truth. I'm not trying to generalize what all Christians/Catholics etc believe but most that I have came in contact with think thatEVERY bad thing that happens to them is of the devil's doing and EVERY good thing is god's doing. They use this doing to justify that their prayinghelps etc etc.
I'm guessing that the ONLY reason YOU BELIEVE in God is because your parents told you believe in God or else you're going to go to Helletc. So "you" afraid of going to Hell etc find any misconception and try to use it as truth to an argument etc. Blind faith.
Originally Posted by Lizett
True, Theism has created some of the best humans on Earth but look at the type of people non faith creates Lincoln, Jefferson, Grant the list goes on and on. Also imagine a world without the constraints of there being a God or not.Originally Posted by M1dnightMobster
Originally Posted by BlazeKicks
I find Christianity is used more as a tool of fear to guide your life from right and wrong
Honestly, people confuse religion with belief/faith.
Sure, Christianity and other religions have been used to constrain people or extort people i.e. indulgences in the Christian church but those were all devices of wicked men. True faith creates people like MLK Jr, C.S. Lewis, and even Gandhi.
Also, for you intelligent Atheists, try arguing with Descartes about the existence of God http://oregonstate.edu/in...phers/descartes-god.html
I said I was sincerely sorry for that, because my mom died a while ago and I remember kids pretending to pray but they were mocking my religion. Iwas being a troll so I left sorry for that. Also see you at UCLA fall 2010.Originally Posted by PhilBalla09
yet you took time to troll over to "my mom needs your prayer thread.""
now you're trolling
True, but I mean't like if people weren't born with the influence of religion etc and rather they were born with nothing to tell themwhat's moral and what's moral and rather a trial of tribulations with religion non-exist. Who would the movie stars and football players thank whenthey win an award?Originally Posted by gangsta207therevolution
Originally Posted by Lizett
True, Theism has created some of the best humans on Earth but look at the type of people non faith creates Lincoln, Jefferson, Grant the list goes on and on. Also imagine a world without the constraints of there being a God or not.Originally Posted by M1dnightMobster
Originally Posted by BlazeKicks
I find Christianity is used more as a tool of fear to guide your life from right and wrong
Honestly, people confuse religion with belief/faith.
Sure, Christianity and other religions have been used to constrain people or extort people i.e. indulgences in the Christian church but those were all devices of wicked men. True faith creates people like MLK Jr, C.S. Lewis, and even Gandhi.
Also, for you intelligent Atheists, try arguing with Descartes about the existence of God http://oregonstate.edu/in...phers/descartes-god.html
Yea but you would have to kill like every religious person.. It aint gone be pretty over night... No matter what the view at the top is not cool, a change like this is gone take at least 2000 years
Especially when they're telling you to give your "life" to the Holy Spirit, no comprende amigo.
I DON'T KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS!!!! Why spend my life preoccupied with an existence or lack thereof no living human is capable of characterizing?
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
Say word? He told you this himself?
The quoted statements above, made by some of my NT brethren, highlight a trend of logic I have come to notice amongst so-called "non-believers".
Essentially, what this logic proposes and champions, is the rational that, "if I can't sense God, then He clearly must not exist". In other words, "if I can't see, hear, touch, smell, or taste God, then He is clearly fiction"; after all, the very concept that is"evidence", and the manifestation of said "evidence", derives from our ability--as sentient beings--to "sense" things.
So in connecting the dots, we arrive at a line of thinking that is central to the atheistic argument--and that is, the opinion that "if I can't sense(see, hear, touch, smell, or taste) God directly, then there is no evidence for Him, and if thereis no evidence for Him, then He doesn't exist."
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Now if only y'all could actually see just how faulty and defective that line of thinking is, y'all would realize just how baseless y'all wholeargument against the existence of God is.
And to prove my point, I ask y'all this-- "What exactly is AIR"--you know, that thing we "supposedly" breathe in.
We can't see it, hear it, touch it, smell it, or taste it; simply stated, we can't sense it directly so why do YOU believe in it (and I KNOW YOU DO). As previously stated, our conception of"evidence" is based off our ability to sense something, and the "lack of evidence" comes about from an inability to sense something. So ifwe can't sense AIR, then implicitly, there cannot be such a thing as evidence for AIR--and yet, I am quite confident you believe in this thing called AIRcorrect?
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The quoted statements above, made by some of my NT brethren, highlight a trend of logic I have come to notice amongst so-called "non-believers".
Essentially, what this logic proposes and champions, is the rational that, "if I can't sense God, then He clearly must not exist". In other words, "if I can't see, hear, touch, smell, or taste God, then He is clearly fiction"; after all, the very concept that is "evidence", and the manifestation of said "evidence", derives from our ability--as sentient beings--to "sense" things.
So in connecting the dots, we arrive at a line of thinking that is central to the atheistic argument--and that is, the opinion that "if I can't sense (see, hear, touch, smell, or taste) God directly, then there is no evidence for Him, and if there is no evidence for Him, then He doesn't exist."
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Now if only y'all could actually see just how faulty and defective that line of thinking is, y'all would realize just how baseless y'all whole argument against the existence of God is.
And to prove my point, I ask y'all this-- "What exactly is AIR"--you know, that thing we "supposedly" breathe in.
We can't see it, hear it, touch it, smell it, or taste it; simply stated, we can't sense it directly so why do YOU believe in it (and I KNOW YOU DO). As previously stated, our conception of "evidence" is based off our ability to sense something, and the "lack of evidence" comes about from an inability to sense something. So if we can't sense AIR, then implicitly, there cannot be such a thing as evidence for AIR--and yet, I am quite confident you believe in this thing called AIR correct?
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My man, I might as well just start making sh$%# up right now and applying it to your logic. There is no concrete evidence of flying pigs that fartrainbows and poop skittles, but I guess it does not mean they do not exist. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
BDW WE CAN SENSE (smell, feel, taste) AIR unless you live in a vacuum, worst argument ever you should've picked a betterexample.
