*Official* Casino Gambling thread

[iamchris]

Hold em and war.
Tips for war:
Only play one on one against the dealer. You get into a better flow that way and sometimes other players lag on their bets messing up the whole flow. Bet big win big.

 

[al audi]

ok

 

[al audi]

ok

 

[703 hwy]

Straight poker player, thinking bout hitting Charlestown tonight and tomorrow.

 

[703 hwy]

Straight poker player, thinking bout hitting Charlestown tonight and tomorrow.

 

[mojodmonky1]

just got back from vegas this past weekend. pretty much only played craps (as is usually the case for me).

so i had read up on another "system" but was too chicken to try it (not to mention i didnt have the bankroll for it), and also a little skeptical about the success rate on it.

so the system i read about is based on winning a cold table (as is more typical than hot tables).

start by betting 1unit on both pass and dont pass. so basically on the come out roll, the only time you will lose money is if they roll boxcars (12) since the dont pass bet pushes, and the pass bet loses (2/3 pushes as does 7/11). Once a point has been set, the pass line bet and dont pass line bet basically cancel each other out (since one will only win when the other loses and vice versa). The point of this strategy is to take advantage of the best bet in the casino, which is the odds bet.

Depending on your perceived risk tolerance, you can then bet accordingly when a tougher point is set. Some might make an odds bet only if the point is an outside number 4,5,9,10. On 6/8 they will just ride it out and eventually break even (once point is hit, or 7 out). If the point is an outside number though, you scale up and maximize your odds bet and hope that the 7 comes before the 4 (or whatever the point is).

Now this can be a slow burn of sorts as you win little bit little on a very hit or miss table. The problem is if the table gets hot and the shooter hits a couple of outside points in succession, then you are really taking a hit to your bankroll since you are laying odds (and big odds at that).

I'll usually play a $15 min table and figured I would need atleast $800 minimum if not a grand just to ride out the small swings of a decently hot shooter. Again, I just play for pennies (usually only look to "lose" about $1,500 a trip) so I just couldnt justify rolling out 2/3 of my bankroll in 1 session to test this theory out.

My strategy (I wont call it a system, cause it doesnt work)

I HATE to play with the house. 99% of the time I am a passline bettor.

I will play the passline. If a point is set, I NEVER make an odds bet on the next roll. I will instead bet an equal amount to my passline bet on the come bet. The reason I do this is cause I am superstitious and I feel that P&C's (point and immediate crap out) happen waaaaay too often, atleast more often than a point is set then immediately hit. If they roll a 2/3/12, I will chalk up my come bet as a loss, and re-place that bet for the next roll. If they miss their point but hit another number, I then my my original passline bet, and a come bet. Typically, these are the only 2 numbers I will ride. I will look to maximize my odds bet on both of these numbers and just ride it out. If I get bored (which tends to happen) I might make a place bet, usually on the 5 or 9 (assuming neither are my point or come numbers). I try not to mess with 6/8 much though.

I try to stay away from the middle of the table (hardways, hop, etc.. etc...), UNLESS the table is poppin (or im drunk and just tryin to shoot the S with the dealer and give em a little piece of action). This past weekend was one of those instances where the table was poppin, and it got crazy. Dudes who were playing with maybe $300-1000 bank rolls were tossing $25 chips on Yo bets on nearly every roll. Shooter was hot like fire and would hit a Yo every 3-4 rolls (utter madness), and dudes were goin crazy. I was too chicken myself and would only throw like $2-5 on the Yo, but still made some lunch money with it.

 

[mojodmonky1]

just got back from vegas this past weekend. pretty much only played craps (as is usually the case for me).

so i had read up on another "system" but was too chicken to try it (not to mention i didnt have the bankroll for it), and also a little skeptical about the success rate on it.

so the system i read about is based on winning a cold table (as is more typical than hot tables).

start by betting 1unit on both pass and dont pass. so basically on the come out roll, the only time you will lose money is if they roll boxcars (12) since the dont pass bet pushes, and the pass bet loses (2/3 pushes as does 7/11). Once a point has been set, the pass line bet and dont pass line bet basically cancel each other out (since one will only win when the other loses and vice versa). The point of this strategy is to take advantage of the best bet in the casino, which is the odds bet.

Depending on your perceived risk tolerance, you can then bet accordingly when a tougher point is set. Some might make an odds bet only if the point is an outside number 4,5,9,10. On 6/8 they will just ride it out and eventually break even (once point is hit, or 7 out). If the point is an outside number though, you scale up and maximize your odds bet and hope that the 7 comes before the 4 (or whatever the point is).

Now this can be a slow burn of sorts as you win little bit little on a very hit or miss table. The problem is if the table gets hot and the shooter hits a couple of outside points in succession, then you are really taking a hit to your bankroll since you are laying odds (and big odds at that).

I'll usually play a $15 min table and figured I would need atleast $800 minimum if not a grand just to ride out the small swings of a decently hot shooter. Again, I just play for pennies (usually only look to "lose" about $1,500 a trip) so I just couldnt justify rolling out 2/3 of my bankroll in 1 session to test this theory out.

My strategy (I wont call it a system, cause it doesnt work)

I HATE to play with the house. 99% of the time I am a passline bettor.

I will play the passline. If a point is set, I NEVER make an odds bet on the next roll. I will instead bet an equal amount to my passline bet on the come bet. The reason I do this is cause I am superstitious and I feel that P&C's (point and immediate crap out) happen waaaaay too often, atleast more often than a point is set then immediately hit. If they roll a 2/3/12, I will chalk up my come bet as a loss, and re-place that bet for the next roll. If they miss their point but hit another number, I then my my original passline bet, and a come bet. Typically, these are the only 2 numbers I will ride. I will look to maximize my odds bet on both of these numbers and just ride it out. If I get bored (which tends to happen) I might make a place bet, usually on the 5 or 9 (assuming neither are my point or come numbers). I try not to mess with 6/8 much though.

I try to stay away from the middle of the table (hardways, hop, etc.. etc...), UNLESS the table is poppin (or im drunk and just tryin to shoot the S with the dealer and give em a little piece of action). This past weekend was one of those instances where the table was poppin, and it got crazy. Dudes who were playing with maybe $300-1000 bank rolls were tossing $25 chips on Yo bets on nearly every roll. Shooter was hot like fire and would hit a Yo every 3-4 rolls (utter madness), and dudes were goin crazy. I was too chicken myself and would only throw like $2-5 on the Yo, but still made some lunch money with it.

 

[benssick]

18 and never gambled 

 

[benssick]

18 and never gambled 

 

[venom lyrix]

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 

[venom lyrix]

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 

[sellout]

I was in Vegas about 3 weeks ago.
- sat down at the holdem tables in the MGM
- sat down 2 different times with 60 dollars each
- came up to 200+ both times

 

[sellout]

I was in Vegas about 3 weeks ago.
- sat down at the holdem tables in the MGM
- sat down 2 different times with 60 dollars each
- came up to 200+ both times

 

[cbass625]

I started off playing roulette but once i learned craps i never looked back. The game is too much. Unfortunately the last few times I've been to AC I've lost money but I have had my few hot streaks of rolls. Feels good man

 

[cbass625]

I started off playing roulette but once i learned craps i never looked back. The game is too much. Unfortunately the last few times I've been to AC I've lost money but I have had my few hot streaks of rolls. Feels good man

 

[mojodmonky1]

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 man do i know the feeling.

again.. i am very superstitious when it comes to craps, and i HATE losing on another shooter when they shoot in a manner that i find unacceptable.  the most unacceptable shooting thing you can do (in my book) is to friggin limp wrist it so it barely hits the backwall.  Not only will this annoy the hell out of the bossman and other dealers, but i swear it results in a much higher ratio of 7's to non-7's.

also... keep the damn dice on the table.  once them dice go flying you know a 7 is iminent.

  

 

[mojodmonky1]

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 man do i know the feeling.

again.. i am very superstitious when it comes to craps, and i HATE losing on another shooter when they shoot in a manner that i find unacceptable.  the most unacceptable shooting thing you can do (in my book) is to friggin limp wrist it so it barely hits the backwall.  Not only will this annoy the hell out of the bossman and other dealers, but i swear it results in a much higher ratio of 7's to non-7's.

also... keep the damn dice on the table.  once them dice go flying you know a 7 is iminent.

  

 

[jdotvo]

Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 man do i know the feeling.

again.. i am very superstitious when it comes to craps, and i HATE losing on another shooter when they shoot in a manner that i find unacceptable.  the most unacceptable shooting thing you can do (in my book) is to friggin limp wrist it so it barely hits the backwall.  Not only will this annoy the hell out of the bossman and other dealers, but i swear it results in a much higher ratio of 7's to non-7's.

also... keep the damn dice on the table.  once them dice go flying you know a 7 is iminent.

  

 i feel the same way.
another superstition of mine is... and i swear it happens 99% of the time. every time i'm on a hot streak (or even someone else), and it hits a stack of chips at the other end of the table, it's an automatic 7 when the dice lands.

 

[jdotvo]

Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 man do i know the feeling.

again.. i am very superstitious when it comes to craps, and i HATE losing on another shooter when they shoot in a manner that i find unacceptable.  the most unacceptable shooting thing you can do (in my book) is to friggin limp wrist it so it barely hits the backwall.  Not only will this annoy the hell out of the bossman and other dealers, but i swear it results in a much higher ratio of 7's to non-7's.

also... keep the damn dice on the table.  once them dice go flying you know a 7 is iminent.

  

 i feel the same way.
another superstition of mine is... and i swear it happens 99% of the time. every time i'm on a hot streak (or even someone else), and it hits a stack of chips at the other end of the table, it's an automatic 7 when the dice lands.

 

[venom lyrix]

Originally Posted by n1ke drawer


has anyone been to the new resortsworld casino in queens, ny??? I need feedback as to their games offered ...... my question is:

1) Do they have table games? (craps, roulette, blackjack, etc...with dealers).....not the video machines

2) Do they have a poker room?   

This would really help my commute time.... instead of going to atlantic city/connecticut to play

my friend actually did the electrical work in this casino, they are currently working fast to open up the 2nd floor in the casino.
no table games yet it's illegal in NY, there will be a vote on it in a few yrs though.

all the games they have there, craps, roulette, are all video based, but it's been packed since it opened.

 

[venom lyrix]

Originally Posted by n1ke drawer


has anyone been to the new resortsworld casino in queens, ny??? I need feedback as to their games offered ...... my question is:

1) Do they have table games? (craps, roulette, blackjack, etc...with dealers).....not the video machines

2) Do they have a poker room?   

This would really help my commute time.... instead of going to atlantic city/connecticut to play

my friend actually did the electrical work in this casino, they are currently working fast to open up the 2nd floor in the casino.
no table games yet it's illegal in NY, there will be a vote on it in a few yrs though.

all the games they have there, craps, roulette, are all video based, but it's been packed since it opened.

 

[venom lyrix]

Originally Posted by ricer yo

Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 man do i know the feeling.

again.. i am very superstitious when it comes to craps, and i HATE losing on another shooter when they shoot in a manner that i find unacceptable.  the most unacceptable shooting thing you can do (in my book) is to friggin limp wrist it so it barely hits the backwall.  Not only will this annoy the hell out of the bossman and other dealers, but i swear it results in a much higher ratio of 7's to non-7's.

also... keep the damn dice on the table.  once them dice go flying you know a 7 is iminent.

  

 i feel the same way.
another superstition of mine is... and i swear it happens 99% of the time. every time i'm on a hot streak (or even someone else), and it hits a stack of chips at the other end of the table, it's an automatic 7 when the dice lands.

I roll hard. But I don't roll high, you know some people can fling it like 10 feet in the air and hit the back wall, always leaves me in awe.

as far as superstitions at the table, when I roll the dice I put both die on 3's and fling it. Also I like being at the head of the table on either side, don't like being on the side, don't like that vantage point.

I'd like to do some more reading on Craps but there isn't much out there that's worth reading that'll help your game.

 

[venom lyrix]

Originally Posted by ricer yo

Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 man do i know the feeling.

again.. i am very superstitious when it comes to craps, and i HATE losing on another shooter when they shoot in a manner that i find unacceptable.  the most unacceptable shooting thing you can do (in my book) is to friggin limp wrist it so it barely hits the backwall.  Not only will this annoy the hell out of the bossman and other dealers, but i swear it results in a much higher ratio of 7's to non-7's.

also... keep the damn dice on the table.  once them dice go flying you know a 7 is iminent.

  

 i feel the same way.
another superstition of mine is... and i swear it happens 99% of the time. every time i'm on a hot streak (or even someone else), and it hits a stack of chips at the other end of the table, it's an automatic 7 when the dice lands.

I roll hard. But I don't roll high, you know some people can fling it like 10 feet in the air and hit the back wall, always leaves me in awe.

as far as superstitions at the table, when I roll the dice I put both die on 3's and fling it. Also I like being at the head of the table on either side, don't like being on the side, don't like that vantage point.

I'd like to do some more reading on Craps but there isn't much out there that's worth reading that'll help your game.

 

[mojodmonky1]

Originally Posted by ricer yo

Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 man do i know the feeling.

again.. i am very superstitious when it comes to craps, and i HATE losing on another shooter when they shoot in a manner that i find unacceptable.  the most unacceptable shooting thing you can do (in my book) is to friggin limp wrist it so it barely hits the backwall.  Not only will this annoy the hell out of the bossman and other dealers, but i swear it results in a much higher ratio of 7's to non-7's.

also... keep the damn dice on the table.  once them dice go flying you know a 7 is iminent.

  

 i feel the same way.
another superstition of mine is... and i swear it happens 99% of the time. every time i'm on a hot streak (or even someone else), and it hits a stack of chips at the other end of the table, it's an automatic 7 when the dice lands.

97% for me man.  I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.  I swear I can feel the 7 even before the dice stop rolling just based on how they bounce off a stack of chips or bounce off each other (in particular if they hit each other and then shoot out sideways directly away from each other).

@venom - I am also supserstituous about pit placement.  I like to take the spot directly to the right of the stickman because I am left handed and shoot palm down but with my hand/arm in a down to up motion (kinda like Daniel-san in Karate Kid when he is doing "Paint the Fence").  I like for my dice to land right near the back wall then imemdiately hit the wall and not get too much roll in between initial landing and backwall touch.  It is difficult for me to do this from the left of the stickman because I would be shooting cross body.  Its also difficult to do this from the end of the table because of the added distance I have to carry with my throws (so I am less accurate in hitting my targetted landing zone).

 

[mojodmonky1]

Originally Posted by ricer yo

Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1

Originally Posted by venom lyrix

Started playing Craps heavy along with blackjack, game is fun, but I've only been on a few hot runs to make bank, other times...just losing.

I hate losing when someone else rolls, feels like it's so out of my control...not fun but that's the game, and I have gambling in my blood, i love the rush

 man do i know the feeling.

again.. i am very superstitious when it comes to craps, and i HATE losing on another shooter when they shoot in a manner that i find unacceptable.  the most unacceptable shooting thing you can do (in my book) is to friggin limp wrist it so it barely hits the backwall.  Not only will this annoy the hell out of the bossman and other dealers, but i swear it results in a much higher ratio of 7's to non-7's.

also... keep the damn dice on the table.  once them dice go flying you know a 7 is iminent.

  

 i feel the same way.
another superstition of mine is... and i swear it happens 99% of the time. every time i'm on a hot streak (or even someone else), and it hits a stack of chips at the other end of the table, it's an automatic 7 when the dice lands.

97% for me man.  I know EXACTLY what you are talking about.  I swear I can feel the 7 even before the dice stop rolling just based on how they bounce off a stack of chips or bounce off each other (in particular if they hit each other and then shoot out sideways directly away from each other).

@venom - I am also supserstituous about pit placement.  I like to take the spot directly to the right of the stickman because I am left handed and shoot palm down but with my hand/arm in a down to up motion (kinda like Daniel-san in Karate Kid when he is doing "Paint the Fence").  I like for my dice to land right near the back wall then imemdiately hit the wall and not get too much roll in between initial landing and backwall touch.  It is difficult for me to do this from the left of the stickman because I would be shooting cross body.  Its also difficult to do this from the end of the table because of the added distance I have to carry with my throws (so I am less accurate in hitting my targetted landing zone).