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Swag.Originally Posted by PMatic
Official Chicago Bulls Offseason Thread
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theres no way gar gives up Omer for a damn guard......scratch that there no way gar give up Omer PERIOD!
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I'm down for Courtney Lee....I'm not down for what Houston's on tho...
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nets trying to get Deron from utah before thursday
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Welp, they did.Originally Posted by ColdCity
nets trying to get Deron from utah before thursday
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Good job Mikhail...you bluff the Knicks to gut their roster for Melo and get a younger, better building block for a cheaper price.
Question is, will he extend with the Nets.
Question is, will he extend with the Nets.
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Originally Posted by TheGrimm
Welp, they did.Originally Posted by ColdCity
nets trying to get Deron from utah before thursday
WELL DAMN!http://sports.espn.go.com...ba/news/story?id=6150419
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good question seeing as he JUST said hes going to NY with stat over the all-star break
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Damn...Deron to Jersey???
Noah's back baby! I'm so amped to see Jo get back out there.
Noah's back baby! I'm so amped to see Jo get back out there.
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HUMMM i might have to grab those NJ tickets for the last game of the season now
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I am starting to wonder if a deal comes from nowhere today. It sounds like Courtney Lee or stand pat. I would be fine with that. I love Mayo but the risk could be detrimental if he decides he wants to be the man.
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Yea... he definitely refuted that and said that he never ever spoke those words. Nor would he ever. He would handle the situation in the off season and thats that. No discussion until actual free agency period started.
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My man Juwan
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this is crazy, melo to the knicks, d will to the nets.....we need to make a move but not give up something we still need
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if he plays i think he will drop 15+ just because
he might take some of my boy Julians PT
Joe's is gonna crack tomorrow.......gotta find a babysitter asap
nah a move is not NEEDED but if it can help without hurting us ok
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by Sam Smith
It looks like that D-League stint will give James Johnson a chance to play.
Just not with the Bulls.
Johnson, the 2009 Bulls’ first round pick at No. 16, was traded Tuesday to the Toronto Raptors for the Miami Heat’s 2011 first round pick the Raptors held from the sign-and-trade deal for Chris Bosh.
The trade gives the Bulls two 2011 first round picks, theirs and Miami’s, and they still hold the potential 2012 or later first round pick from the Charlotte Bobcats for Tyrus Thomas.
Thus, the Bulls are in better position to potentially make a trade before Thursday’s NBA trading deadline for a shooting guard, though nothing is close and the odds seem to remain against a deal from indications at this point.
The big advantage for the Bulls of trading Johnson may be the $1.7 million in salary they save. The Bulls now have almost $3 million under the salary cap they can offer to a player who seeks a buyout from his team, perhaps like Detroit’s Tayshaun Prince.
There is no guarantee Prince, on the final year of his contract, will be offered a buyout or even that he will seek one. But should he, the Bulls would be in ideal position to make up to him the money he gives up to get out of his contract. And it might benefit the Pistons during a sale situation to be able to save millions of dollars on the contract, though Prince is just an example. Among the players most rumored for buyouts are, New Jersey’s Troy Murphy, Indiana’s T.J. Ford, the Clippers’ Rasual Butler and Cleveland’s Anthony Parker.
Players need to seek a buyout by the beginning of March to be eligible for the playoffs with a new team.
Also, the Bulls could be in position with more assets to make a trade for a shooting guard by Thursday as there have been rumors of talks with the usual suspects: Memphis for O.J. Mayo, Houston for Courtney Lee, New Orleans for Marcus Thornton, Minnesota for Wayne Ellington and Portland for Rudy Fernandez.
But thus far—and certainly these things can change as it gets closer to the deadline—league sources say the teams generally have been seeking a rotation player from the Bulls in exchange, which would seem to make little sense. Especially since most of the players the Bulls reportedly have looked at appear to be perhaps incremental upgrades over Keith Bogans.
If the Bulls would have to give up Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, Kyle Korver or Ronnie Brewer it hardly would seem to make sense to fill one position and then be short somewhere else.
Johnson appeared in 13 games for the Bulls this season and averaged 3.2 points. Last season in 65 games with 11 starts he averaged 3.9 points. This year, however, he started the season out of the rotation of new coach Tom Thibodeau and it appeared highly unlikely even with an impressive eight-game stay in the D-League that Johnson would get a chance to play the rest of the season as the Bulls went this far with a good record.
The Bulls play Toronto Wednesday, and it’s possible Johnson could be in uniform. I believe it is a good move for the Raptors to give them a young, athletic small forward to combine with the improving DeMar DeRozan. Johnson had lost weight and had worked to improve. But it had grown clear Thibodeau was uncomfortable with Johnson and he never was going to get a chance to play regularly with this Bulls team. Especially with Thibodeau doing so well.
So moving the 6-8 Johnson for a first round pick gives the Bulls the chance to make a more attractive offer later this week, or at the draft when they’ll have multiple draft picks and then expiring contracts to combine with the picks and perhaps land a higher level player.
It looks like that D-League stint will give James Johnson a chance to play.
Just not with the Bulls.
Johnson, the 2009 Bulls’ first round pick at No. 16, was traded Tuesday to the Toronto Raptors for the Miami Heat’s 2011 first round pick the Raptors held from the sign-and-trade deal for Chris Bosh.
The trade gives the Bulls two 2011 first round picks, theirs and Miami’s, and they still hold the potential 2012 or later first round pick from the Charlotte Bobcats for Tyrus Thomas.
Thus, the Bulls are in better position to potentially make a trade before Thursday’s NBA trading deadline for a shooting guard, though nothing is close and the odds seem to remain against a deal from indications at this point.
The big advantage for the Bulls of trading Johnson may be the $1.7 million in salary they save. The Bulls now have almost $3 million under the salary cap they can offer to a player who seeks a buyout from his team, perhaps like Detroit’s Tayshaun Prince.
There is no guarantee Prince, on the final year of his contract, will be offered a buyout or even that he will seek one. But should he, the Bulls would be in ideal position to make up to him the money he gives up to get out of his contract. And it might benefit the Pistons during a sale situation to be able to save millions of dollars on the contract, though Prince is just an example. Among the players most rumored for buyouts are, New Jersey’s Troy Murphy, Indiana’s T.J. Ford, the Clippers’ Rasual Butler and Cleveland’s Anthony Parker.
Players need to seek a buyout by the beginning of March to be eligible for the playoffs with a new team.
Also, the Bulls could be in position with more assets to make a trade for a shooting guard by Thursday as there have been rumors of talks with the usual suspects: Memphis for O.J. Mayo, Houston for Courtney Lee, New Orleans for Marcus Thornton, Minnesota for Wayne Ellington and Portland for Rudy Fernandez.
But thus far—and certainly these things can change as it gets closer to the deadline—league sources say the teams generally have been seeking a rotation player from the Bulls in exchange, which would seem to make little sense. Especially since most of the players the Bulls reportedly have looked at appear to be perhaps incremental upgrades over Keith Bogans.
If the Bulls would have to give up Taj Gibson, Omer Asik, Kyle Korver or Ronnie Brewer it hardly would seem to make sense to fill one position and then be short somewhere else.
Johnson appeared in 13 games for the Bulls this season and averaged 3.2 points. Last season in 65 games with 11 starts he averaged 3.9 points. This year, however, he started the season out of the rotation of new coach Tom Thibodeau and it appeared highly unlikely even with an impressive eight-game stay in the D-League that Johnson would get a chance to play the rest of the season as the Bulls went this far with a good record.
The Bulls play Toronto Wednesday, and it’s possible Johnson could be in uniform. I believe it is a good move for the Raptors to give them a young, athletic small forward to combine with the improving DeMar DeRozan. Johnson had lost weight and had worked to improve. But it had grown clear Thibodeau was uncomfortable with Johnson and he never was going to get a chance to play regularly with this Bulls team. Especially with Thibodeau doing so well.
So moving the 6-8 Johnson for a first round pick gives the Bulls the chance to make a more attractive offer later this week, or at the draft when they’ll have multiple draft picks and then expiring contracts to combine with the picks and perhaps land a higher level player.
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if you have thornton on your list scratch him off traded to the kings for carl landry stright up.......
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^ He was NEVER on my list
"No Country For Short 2 Guards"
"No Country For Short 2 Guards"
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Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
^ He was NEVER on my list
"No Country For Short 2 Guards"
he wasnt on my list either jr/aa/c lee/oj
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Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
^ He was NEVER on my list
"No Country For Short 2 Guards"
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If we don't get OJ or Afflalo, we're better off doing nothing.
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Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
^ He was NEVER on my list
"No Country For Short 2 Guards"
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I don't see anything else happening at this point pretty much.
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Originally Posted by BishopStrongBow
Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
^ He was NEVER on my list
"No Country For Short 2 Guards"
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Taj for afflalo straight up or with a pick? I feel like we don't need Taj anymore with Naoh coming back. KT and Asik will do the job off the bench, then draft another 6'9"-6'10" forward in the offseason. GET IT DONE!