Official DragonBall Z Thread. R.I.P Akira Toriyama. You will be missed

[yaboyyaboy]

"SIGH"




Stop it.
A good portion of them are the scum of the Earth as far as i'm concerned

Terrible predictions and dumb arguments.

It's a real shame is that the best of the lot are people that tend to talk about Dragon Ball AND various other anime in terms of reviews and such.

 
Nowhere in the manga does goku state that he could have defeated fat boo. He said he more likely than not would have lost that fight and he thinks the kids should protect their planet this time and that with fusion Gotenks actually has a great chance to win. 

Because the scan I posted is from later in the Buu Saga, right as Goku is about to fight Kid Buu. Not sure how that's really hard to understand

The one you posted from is earlier in the saga before the kids have even mastered the Fusion Dance, literally right after the fight with Majin Buu, and the scan I posted has Goku explaining exactly why he didn't kill Kid Buu. Really I'm not even sure why you posted your scan, as if mine doesn't state exactly what you claim the manga didn't state

Edit: the really funny thing is that both of these moments were already discussed during the argument yesterday and were put forth as one reason that AirSak believed Goku could beat Super Buu.

Watch the Buu Saga. It's the weakest arc of Z, but it's better than Super.

You miss nothing of consequence from not seeing GT.

the scan I posted is literally right after the fight with fat boo. He just fought him and got to analyze his power and abilities and seriously doubted that he would defeat him. Yes he thought it was a great idea for the kids to actually save the earth this time (because it's their planet now, he doesn't live in it.) But he believed the combined power of them fused would have a better chance at winning that fight. 

At least in the scan I posted he recently was engaged in battle with fat boo and got to accurately gauge his power literally within an hour of making the statement  "I don't think I could have won" 

Scan you posted was much later has him telling Vegeta "I could have defeated Boo" doesn't hold much weight because logically it doesn't make sense because of what he told Piccolo FIRST. 

1. You can make the argument that he was lying to Piccolo (not sure why he would do that)

2. Exaggerating to Vegeta, whom at that time was intrigued by super sayian 3 and the level of power it held

3. Big plothole dialogue mistake.

 

[jays25]

Fact remains he made the statement, when you claimed he didn't, which is the only purpose I had in posting the scan. And it's easily explained by the first point: he lied to Piccolo and the series again has him explain why; he wanted Goten and Trunks to take over instead of the Earth constantly having to rely on him I'm again not sure what the issue is. Whether you want to believe it or not is irrelevant, since it's a fact that Goku made the statement.

 

[yaboyyaboy]

You're right. I did say "nowhere in the manga did Goku state that he could have defeated Boo" and I was wrong, he did contradict himself and say he could have. 

My point tho was that it's not set in stone that Goku could have defeated Fat Boo like majority of people who only watched the anime may think.

I supported that point by showing you the scan with Goku telling Piccolo he most likely would have lost, and besides that it be good for the kids to defend their home planet for a chance.

Whether YOU believe he was lying or not is your choice, but you can't prove he was.

Which brings me to my conclusion stated above: "it's not set in stone that Goku could have defeated Fat Boo"... too many contradictions and not enough evidence that he could have.

I digress though, this convo is going in circles.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

You're right. I did say "nowhere in the manga did Goku state that he could have defeated Boo" and I was wrong, he did contradict himself and say he could have. 


My point tho was that it's not set in stone that Goku could have defeated Fat Boo like majority of people who only watched the anime may think.

I supported that point by showing you the scan with Goku telling Piccolo he most likely would have lost, and besides that it be good for the kids to defend their home planet for a chance.

Whether YOU believe he was lying or not is your choice, but you can't prove he was.

Which brings me to my conclusion stated above: "it's not set in stone that Goku could have defeated Fat Boo"... too many contradictions and not enough evidence that he could have.



I digress though, this convo is going in circles.

To be fair your original point was "Nowhere in the manga does goku state that he could have defeated fat boo."

 

[jays25]

@Tyree Do Great Let us know what your favorite part is when you finish. SS3 Goku, Majin Vegeta, Gotenks, etc.

 

[yaboyyaboy]

 

[johnnyredstorm]

How do I watch Resurrection of F and the new episodes?

 

[bigego24]

Kissanime JRS

 

[The Fresh Prince]

How do I watch Resurrection of F and the new episodes?

Xvideos

 

[g14]

 
Back to Super...does any1 think that Black could still be Zamasu despite what Goku said about his ki?

its goten who got kidnapped by zamsau  who mistaken him for goku

and the time ring handles the rest of the pot holes of him being older lol

plus black looks way skinny  than dbsuper goku who is slim  already

only reason why they would focus on trunks...picture a future goten vs future trunks battle

 

kid trunks been by himself too much lately ..plus future trunks still doesn't even know goku  has another son

goten looking  pretty expendable the way its going nofor how quiet he been

probably gets kidnapped right from under chi-chi's nose while he is studying school work

 

[antidope]

Hahaha if that happens that would be awesome. Show needs a dark turn and them having to fade Goten would be a good look.

 

[Top Boy]

Goten is suppose to have been conceived during the Cell Games though

In Future Trunks timeline Goku died of his heart disease way before that

Goten would not have been conceived in the first place

 

[antidope]

The only fire music that has ever been in the Japanese version. They need to make sure this one crosses over.

 

[freshpairs]

The only fire music that has ever been in the Japanese version. They need to make sure this one crosses over.

This is when vegeta washed cabba right? Went so damn well with that scene

 

[antidope]

 

The only fire music that has ever been in the Japanese version. They need to make sure this one crosses over.

This is when vegeta washed cabba right? Went so damn well with that scene

Yup, and here too

 

[CJMcfly26]

Nah real talk , they should really bring Raditz back. He can bring so much into the story

 

[AIR J XIII]

I hope before its all said and done with DB, that they bring back Raditz, Nappa, and King Vegeta, at least so we can see their reaction to have far Vegeta and Kakarot have ascended.

 

[Chill Bill]

Only way to bring back Rad, Bardock, King Vegeta and Nappa would be if some villain in the other world
Broke open the gate and set everyone free


But I think that was done in GT

Should have did it when Goku and Pikkon were fighting in the ither world

 

[goldmember]

The only fire music that has ever been in the Japanese version. They need to make sure this one crosses over.

Repped. Love that music.

Also, like this one too

 

[The Fresh Prince]

I'm a Bruce Faulconer man myself

 

[AIRMAXDISCIPLE]

bruce faulconer DBZ audio is garbage and not canon, they should only bring out 1 version with the original japanese background audio and not that wanky ish what is edited for the american market to broadcast on cartoon network and other kiddie channels

 

 

[The Fresh Prince]

 
bruce faulconer DBZ audio is garbage and not canon, they should only bring out 1 version with the original japanese background audio and not that wanky ish what is edited for the american market to broadcast on cartoon network and other kiddie channels

 

I can respect your opinion on the music but not canon? There was no music in the manga. Canon is talking about source material dealing with the story. Not music that was used in the anime which had filler that is not canon to the manga.

 

[Top Boy]

Nah real talk , they should really bring Raditz back. He can bring so much into the story

Raditz??? Might as well bring back the true god

Man Vegeta and Goku's fatherly skills are in such direct parallel it's ridiculous.

Overlooked it the first time, but dude is so lit as a father he can practically read Trunks mind.

Dude is the GOAT

 

[HankHill]

 
bruce faulconer DBZ audio is garbage and not canon, they should only bring out 1 version with the original japanese background audio and not that wanky ish what is edited for the american market to broadcast on cartoon network and other kiddie channels  

I can respect your opinion on the music but not canon? There was no music in the manga. Canon is talking about source material dealing with the story. Not music that was used in the anime which had filler that is not canon to the manga.

Would you consider DB Super manga canon since the Anime/movie is the source material?

 

[antidope]

No episode this week smh