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Ifeel nothing for that turn cloak theon.
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I know some stories may end up lighter but GRRM told them the ending and they made it clear that's what they're doing.With the way GRRM does things, don't be surprised if ultimately the rest of the Starks die
I could see that ending for Littlefinger though. That's only if the truth comes out (he's a big part this all started, he betrayed Ned, etc.).
That's the thing tho with them departing from GRRMs vision more and more I could see them giving happier endings to folks
I think the payoff of Ramsey dying will happen this season so that for the next 2 they can focus on the Others
So if GRRM's ending is just about everybody dies in horrible ways and Pod sits on the Iron throne that's what they're gonna do.
Sure they might have some side characters stories end well but for the main things like the coming of winter and the white walkers and who will eventually become the ruler of the 7 realms they gotta stick to that.
Word.
I don't feel sorry for dude at all.
He's a traitor.
Deserved everything he had coming his way. I hope Sansa sacks up and eventually kills him.
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F the Targs
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Bend_The_Knee
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I feel that JS gonna use LongClaw to spread Theon's guts on the floor.
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First he is going to use it to take the Warden of Salt's head off of his body
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It'd be nice to actually see Salsa show some emotion towards Jon if they do meet. They both think all the other Starks are dead.
Rickon gonna make his long awaited return and be really tall rocking a beard.
Rickon gonna make his long awaited return and be really tall rocking a beard.
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No disrespect but "You can't just bring up the don't trust anyone he might be lying when convenient"?..... that's the premis of the show and on top of that Varys is of the most secretive characters on the show. The don't trust him card applies to him the most next to Littlefinger.Originally Posted by WorldBreaker
I suppose in his own mind his intentions are "noble", but as far as the show is concerned I'm not buying the putting a Targ on the throne is good for the realm motive. He was in on the Danny assassination plot and no way did he know Ser Friendzone was gonna stop him. Besides the only reason we the viewers think his intentions are noble is because he...Varys...The Spider....said so. If GoT has taught us anything it's don't trust anyone.
Yeah but context matters. You can't just bring up the don't trust anyone he might be lying when convenient. He made his intentions very clear to Littlefinger and Baelish did the same. They both are aiming for similar goals but for different reasons.
Wanting a Targ is just the way he sees it now with the choices left. He wanted the Lannisters out. Wasn't clear where things would go if he accomplished that. Littlefinger's plans made it so Varys was calling audibles constantly.
Let's break down Varys. He said that "he serves the realm" and that "everything he does is for the good of the realm", but what does he mean by that. In the show Varys has shown no love for the common people so we can't say he cares about them, so what does he mean by "the realm". Also think about this. He's not from Westeros. He was born in Essos, traveled with a group of actors, sold off to a sorcerer who cut off his manhood and left him to die. Dude started from the bottom and made it to where he is all to just build an elaborate scheme to put a good ruler on the iron throne? Nah there has to be more.
Another thing, he would have retained his money, power, and position no matter what king sat the throne, so you have to wonder why someone that has money, power, no family or legacy, no lands, and can survive comfortable in Westeros or Essos cares so much about "the realm". The realm has done nothing for him. Also don't forget he has been conspiring with Illirio since season 1/book1 so what ever his plans are, it doesn't just involve him.
One last thing to think about. When Vary's told Tyrion the story about when he was cut he said a sorcerer cut off his P and but it into a fire. The flames turned blue and he heard a voice. One theme that continues to show up in GoT is theirs power in kings blood
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im struggling who i want to die a horrible death more...boltons/freys or lannisters...
cersei always swallowing her brother n ****, she needs to deep throat a sword. hate that *****....but ramsey needs to drink wildfire...
cersei always swallowing her brother n ****, she needs to deep throat a sword. hate that *****....but ramsey needs to drink wildfire...
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Scumbag ser alliser needs to be chopped up
Used to like him but hate him now
Used to like him but hate him now
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Scumbag.
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how could anyone have liked Alliser :x :x
dude was a **** head from his first line
dude was a **** head from his first line
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Theon ****** up but he's still a tragic character. His family started a war that they ended up losing and he became a ward of the Starks as part of the peace deal. The Starks treated him well despite that fact but he always knew that he wasn't a Stark. He had the opportunity to meet with his family again and tried to get them on Robb's side but they just looked down on him. If he went back to Robb, it would have been as a failure and ultimately he had to choose between Robb or his family. If Robb's campaign went on he would eventually have to deal with the Ironborn which means Theon would probably have to fight against his own people. He chose his people over Robb. It's not the easiest decision to make.
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The irony is that if a certain theory about Jon is true then Alliser should really be kissing his feet.how could anyone have liked Alliser
dude was a **** head from his first line
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i want the sparrows to be wiped out by the frankenstein mountain ASAP
i actually like Tommen but his mother messed it up too much for him.
i actually like Tommen but his mother messed it up too much for him.
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Rickon gotta be balls deep in those OSHA yambs
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One of the most enjoyable moments in this show was when the high sparrow flipped the script on Cersei...
"Hold up wait a minute, you thought I was finished"
The look on Cersei's face when she realized what she had done
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I feel like we're gonna see Cersei and Jaime in front of Myrcella's corpse,plotting and ******* while they're at it.
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I don't even hate the Lannisters anymore tbh ..they became irrelevant after Tywin died
Just Cersei and I would actually rather she destroyed the faith militant. Joffrey or Tywin would've wiped them completely out ..soft *** Tommen
Just Cersei and I would actually rather she destroyed the faith militant. Joffrey or Tywin would've wiped them completely out ..soft *** Tommen
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at the Pod scene again.
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Varys will do foul and dirty things but he does it for the realm. The good of the realm. He believes everybody running **** are pretenders and aren't good for the realm and wants to put a Targaereyn back on the Iron Throne.
I didn't say he was a honorable or noble dude. I said he had honorable and noble motivations. In his mind, everything he's doing is to protect the common ppl like those in Flea Bottom.
Robb had noble and justified intentions, died.
Stannis was 100% in the right as far as succession to throne goes, died.
Ned was in the right, died.
And on and on and on. Varys gonna get his and Littlefinger gonna show him how to climb in the end
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I suppose in his own mind his intentions are "noble", but as far as the show is concerned I'm not buying the putting a Targ on the throne is good for the realm motive. He was in on the Danny assassination plot and no way did he know Ser Friendzone was gonna stop him. Besides the only reason we the viewers think his intentions are noble is because he...Varys...The Spider....said so. If GoT has taught us anything it's don't trust anyone.
Yeah but context matters. You can't just bring up the don't trust anyone he might be lying when convenient. He made his intentions very clear to Littlefinger and Baelish did the same. They both are aiming for similar goals but for different reasons.
Wanting a Targ is just the way he sees it now with the choices left. He wanted the Lannisters out. Wasn't clear where things would go if he accomplished that. Littlefinger's plans made it so Varys was calling audibles constantly.[/QUOTE]
No disrespect but "You can't just bring up the don't trust anyone he might be lying when convenient"?..... that's the premis of the show and on top of that Varys is of the most secretive characters on the show. The don't trust him card applies to him the most next to Littlefinger. [/quote]
That is not the premise of the show man
This is just plain story telling fundamentals. Varys was not lying nor was Littlefinger. They both were being very candid about how they basically through their own machinations brought the royal family and leadership of the realms in to turmoil while talking about how they see things going forward. They at the very least see each for what they are.
To say they were lying because you can't trust anybody on the show and everybody lies makes no sense at all. Literally. You gotta be able to tell when the show is showing and telling you exactly what it is.
There is no clever scheme going on in that scene.
You should re-watch the entire series real quick before this season starts man.
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This aside from Ollie. He's already been through too much. Remember, he has no family.
