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Yo I won't tolerate any Jorah slander man, my dude is hopeless romantic, we've all visited the friend zone, stop acting brand new ya'll.
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lawdog1
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Visited. This ***** living there. He a permanent citizen. My man took a citizenship test and everything. ***** pay his taxes on time and everything. Son got the anthem on his iphone and the flag as the background on his computer.
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Still man, let my man rock....he's gonna get those yambs one day and ya gonna be jocking him then...lol
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Only thing he getting is greyscale. ***** out here contracting STD's without the fun part even happening.
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Still man, let my man rock....he's gonna get those yambs one day and ya gonna be jocking him then...lol
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airthompson
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Nah fam. He gets zero passes. I get where you're coming from. We have been there... and trust you gain keen senses, and know when to eject at a point. Jorah should be a seasoned vet, yet he he's showing how much of an idiot he is. :x
40+ and being friendzoned... bihhhh
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son has first hand knowledge of 3 dudes nuts deep in them blonde walls too :x
simpin aint easy
simpin aint easy
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Well Ollie is a traitorous bastard but you gotta remember the only reason he needed saving was cuz of the wildlings. He saw it as his rescuer turned heel on him, fell in love with a wildling and then after he killed her kept trying to ally with them.
Them dudes killed his family.
Ollie will get his, most likely by the hand of a white walker.
I'm gonna have to stick to it man. This theorizing you're doing about Varys is off from what I've seen.Haha miss me with that last comment bro. Varys has yet to actual do something that "helped the realm". I'm not gonna argue about why the second most untrustworthy character might have ulterior motives. I've watched every episode multiple times and read the books. There are countless threads and theories about him and his motives. You saw one scene with him and Littlefinger in the throne room and all Varys says is "I did what I did for the realm" and that was good enough for you and thats ok.That is not the premise of the show man
This is just plain story telling fundamentals. Varys was not lying nor was Littlefinger. They both were being very candid about how they basically through their own machinations brought the royal family and leadership of the realms in to turmoil while talking about how they see things going forward. They at the very least see each for what they are.
To say they were lying because you can't trust anybody on the show and everybody lies makes no sense at all. Literally. You gotta be able to tell when the show is showing and telling you exactly what it is.
There is no clever scheme going on in that scene.
You should re-watch the entire series real quick before this season starts man.
Especially the reasoning your using. Varys is untrustworthy therefore when he's keeping it real with someone he clearly sees as a fellow competitor in this manipulation game he's going to lie about his motivations. Like I don't get just from a story telling perspective you missed what they were going for with that scene.
Your literal reply is Varys can't be trusted
Plus you think that's the premise of the show. It's the same sort of nonsensical anything can happen reasoning I've seen ppl ouome with on certain other shows. Nah, this aint throwing **** at the wall. It's not having characters lying for the sake of lying.
But you can't provide evidence as of right now that he does have ulterior motives.
Your reasoning is he's untrustworthy and that's enough. That's not how you establish characters in a story like this.
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My point is that the show hasn't hinted at any of his motives other than he wants the person who is most capable of bringing prosperity to the iron throne to be the ruler. You can make up whatever you want about his other motives but we've literally been shown nothing else. Litter finger has his ladder climbing,
Caitlyn stark obsessing, obsessing power ways and it's been very clear those intentions but Varys hasn't shown any of that, so whatever you're reading into is pure conjecture. Which is fine, but don't be preaching like its a known thing, when it isn't.
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Of course its speculation that's why I said there are theories.
Let me ask you this. When Varys said that he "serves the realm" or "everything he does is for the good of the realm" you didn't ask yourself why? like at all? Also I'm not preaching anything. I simply said that one character isn't trust worthy. I explained why with examples from the show and that's it. I only mentioned the theories on the web to show that it's actually a popular theory. If you guys don't agree that's fine, its the "you trippin" or "go rewatch the show" that I have an issue with.
I said that the premise of the show is you can't trust anyone not just Varys. As a matter of fact the people you named in the original post I replied to not only died for a noble causes, but they trusted people they shouldn't have, so you can say that they died because of who they trusted just as easily as you can say they died for a noble cause. I do know there is more to the overall plot of Game of Thrones, but I think as the viewer or reader you are suppose to speculate the true intentions of people especially the major players. Also just so we are clear about the scene you're talking about. Can you post the Littlefinger and Varys exchange you're refering too? They meet in the throne room 2 or 3 times and I don't actually recall Varys keeping it real with Littlefinger about what his motives are.I'm gonna have to stick to it man. This theorizing you're doing about Varys is off from what I've seen.
Especially the reasoning your using. Varys is untrustworthy therefore when he's keeping it real with someone he clearly sees as a fellow competitor in this manipulation game he's going to lie about his motivations. Like I don't get just from a story telling perspective you missed what they were going for with that scene.
Your literal reply is Varys can't be trustedPlus you think that's the premise of the show. It's the same sort of nonsensical anything can happen reasoning I've seen ppl ouome with on certain other shows. Nah, this aint throwing **** at the wall. It's not having characters lying for the sake of lying.
But you can't provide evidence as of right now that he does have ulterior motives.
Your reasoning is he's untrustworthy and that's enough. That's not how you establish characters in a story like this.
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Son wtf (,-_-,)
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I said what I had to say.
Littlefinger and Varys eloquently describe their motives a bit in that scene. Petyr a bit more than Varys but subsequent Varys scenes all connect to the sentiment he expressed in that scene and things he's gone on to say to Tyrion.
If you account for Varys eunuch origin story and his beginnings it all comes together quite well.
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calibeebee
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He's definitely talking about the talk from episode 7 season 3 "The Climb". That was a great scene btw
Also, the show runners are really messed up for having Rob take his girl to the wedding.
Also, the show runners are really messed up for having Rob take his girl to the wedding.
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I figured thats what you were referring to and in that clip all he says is "what i did was for the good of the realm." Which in that case was stopping Littlefinger he never said what his motive was to him. He only told Tyrion about Danny and Tyrion could very well be a puppet for Varys. I dont think Varys wants to see Westeros descend into chaos which is what he thinks littlefinger wants so he stopped him.
Also Varys's back story actually raises more questions about his motives. Not quite sure how you see it help your point. He was a slave turned unic in the free cities. He resorted to crime and scheming to get to where he is to save a realm he isn't from?
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No disrespect but "You can't just bring up the don't trust anyone he might be lying when convenient"?..... that's the premis of the show and on top of that Varys is of the most secretive characters on the show. The don't trust him card applies to him the most next to Littlefinger.
Let's break down Varys. He said that "he serves the realm" and that "everything he does is for the good of the realm", but what does he mean by that. In the show Varys has shown no love for the common people so we can't say he cares about them, so what does he mean by "the realm". Also think about this. He's not from Westeros. He was born in Essos, traveled with a group of actors, sold off to a sorcerer who cut off his manhood and left him to die. Dude started from the bottom and made it to where he is all to just build an elaborate scheme to put a good ruler on the iron throne? Nah there has to be more.
Another thing, he would have retained his money, power, and position no matter what king sat the throne, so you have to wonder why someone that has money, power, no family or legacy, no lands, and can survive comfortable in Westeros or Essos cares so much about "the realm". The realm has done nothing for him. Also don't forget he has been conspiring with Illirio since season 1/book1 so what ever his plans are, it doesn't just involve him.
One last thing to think about. When Vary's told Tyrion the story about when he was cut he said a sorcerer cut off his P and but it into a fire. The flames turned blue and he heard a voice. One theme that continues to show up in GoT is theirs power in kings blood
In the books Varys plan is shown more and takes a major plot twist
But one of the characters that is involved was cut from the show so who knows what they do with him
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How about the part where he sees Daario leaving Dany's room?
Dude probably reeked of sex
Must have killed Jorah inside
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Let's not forget Jorah simped out for second wife
He bought her everything she wanted, eventually Jorah went broke, and she left him
He bought her everything she wanted, eventually Jorah went broke, and she left him
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