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[::OFFICIAL LAKERS 2010-11' SEASON THREAD Vol. It Was Fun While It Lasted::]
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Originally Posted by DARTH DNZY
--True. The Lakers can and will beat anyone in the west in a best of 7.
--But if the Finals start in Boston..or Miami...good-bye three-peat. Hello rebuild.
This!
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I think some of us are investing too much stock into the past and what other teams have gone through.
I understand going through cold spells offensively, but as already mentioned, I am really worried about the team defense. From the first game of the season and through that early winning streak, there were plenty of things that concerned me and they are still prevalent with this team. Letting one player attack the offensive boards when there are 2-3 Lakers around, poor defensive rotation and over help which leads to WIDE OPEN shooters, and a lack of intensity.
Watching how LA plays defense, it shouldn't even be a surprise why they lost to the teams they did. Everyone is in the NBA for a reason and if dudes are about to get warmup jumpshot type looks, they're probably going to fall. These guys keep up this same type of defense and I don't know who they can get stop.
I understand going through cold spells offensively, but as already mentioned, I am really worried about the team defense. From the first game of the season and through that early winning streak, there were plenty of things that concerned me and they are still prevalent with this team. Letting one player attack the offensive boards when there are 2-3 Lakers around, poor defensive rotation and over help which leads to WIDE OPEN shooters, and a lack of intensity.
Watching how LA plays defense, it shouldn't even be a surprise why they lost to the teams they did. Everyone is in the NBA for a reason and if dudes are about to get warmup jumpshot type looks, they're probably going to fall. These guys keep up this same type of defense and I don't know who they can get stop.
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playoffs playoffs...
the day I start believing that they wont pull it together...is admitting they wont get pass the 2nd round in the west or sumtin like that
they'll pull it together...i hope
the day I start believing that they wont pull it together...is admitting they wont get pass the 2nd round in the west or sumtin like that
they'll pull it together...i hope
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--I'm already desensitized to how the Lakers operate.
--I highly doubt they can pull it together though.
--I highly doubt they can pull it together though.
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to the people who say THE LAKERS will not put it together, they will choke etc.
were you saying that after the celtics and knicks victory ?
were you saying that after the celtics and knicks victory ?
We're doing pretty much the same thing we did last year, the difference last year was Kobe hit the 7 buzzer beaters or whatever.
Without those 7 shots last year, we lose to Sac at home (sound familiar?)
We lose to the Bucks......sound familiar?
We lose in Memphis.......Pattern?
We lose in Boston
We lose to the Heat at home (not this year's Heat, last year's)
We lose at home to the Raptors
This year we've had one buzzer beater, vs the Clips by Fisher. We also were .1th of a second away from beating the Spurs.
It's why I try to remind you guys, a game can swing any direction for no reason. Lemme ask ya'll, if we win last night, vs the Cavs, what, everything is ok then? We're still "the Lakers" if we win last night, but not if we lose?
I said it last night, the 4 wins to start the trip vs winning teams.....ok, 3.5 wins (DyHard
) were less important then the 2 losses to bad teams? Where is the logic in that?
After March 12th, we have 11 home games, and 4 road games. A perfect stretch to work on our game, turn up the intensity, practice, do whatever it is we need too. Phil always finds a way. Also note, here we are, approaching March, and nobody is dead. Bynum is alive, Kobe is in better shape then normal (other then wearyiness) Barnes should be back in a week or two, even Ratliff may return. Nobody that we need in our 9 man rotation will miss significant time this season from January on other then Barnes. (knock on as much wood as you can find right now) That's key.
Boston last year went on the road vs the Cavs, then the Magic, and then us. They were older then we are this year. But because they are a veteran team, that had been there and done that, they handled their business. They had a 13 point lead in a game 7 in the 3rd quarter. They simply ran outta gas, and we made the plays at the end. We being another veteran team with know how.
We stay healthy, we get right during the final month mostly at home, we get to 55 wins or so, play our first round opponent, and go from there. See who we match up with, and how. Save Kobe's legs, Fisher's legs, keep Bynum with 2 legs, Odom and Gasol stary fresh, and hope that Barnes and Blake and Brown get that comfort back from early in the year, help us hustle it out more. And then get Ron interested in some playoff type basketball. Phil will shut down the team like he ALWAYS does during the postseason. NO DISTRACTIONS. Kobe and Fish will start to smell the postseason again. No more playing Cleveland. No more 7 game road trips. No more back to backs. No more 4 games in 5 nights. MORE time to study and prepare for our opponents.
And you guys doubt that these guys can get back into the swing of things? Phil been to the Finals in 13 of the last 19 years.
He knows what he's doing.
Be patient.
Without those 7 shots last year, we lose to Sac at home (sound familiar?)
We lose to the Bucks......sound familiar?
We lose in Memphis.......Pattern?
We lose in Boston
We lose to the Heat at home (not this year's Heat, last year's)
We lose at home to the Raptors
This year we've had one buzzer beater, vs the Clips by Fisher. We also were .1th of a second away from beating the Spurs.
It's why I try to remind you guys, a game can swing any direction for no reason. Lemme ask ya'll, if we win last night, vs the Cavs, what, everything is ok then? We're still "the Lakers" if we win last night, but not if we lose?
After March 12th, we have 11 home games, and 4 road games. A perfect stretch to work on our game, turn up the intensity, practice, do whatever it is we need too. Phil always finds a way. Also note, here we are, approaching March, and nobody is dead. Bynum is alive, Kobe is in better shape then normal (other then wearyiness) Barnes should be back in a week or two, even Ratliff may return. Nobody that we need in our 9 man rotation will miss significant time this season from January on other then Barnes. (knock on as much wood as you can find right now) That's key.
Boston last year went on the road vs the Cavs, then the Magic, and then us. They were older then we are this year. But because they are a veteran team, that had been there and done that, they handled their business. They had a 13 point lead in a game 7 in the 3rd quarter. They simply ran outta gas, and we made the plays at the end. We being another veteran team with know how.
We stay healthy, we get right during the final month mostly at home, we get to 55 wins or so, play our first round opponent, and go from there. See who we match up with, and how. Save Kobe's legs, Fisher's legs, keep Bynum with 2 legs, Odom and Gasol stary fresh, and hope that Barnes and Blake and Brown get that comfort back from early in the year, help us hustle it out more. And then get Ron interested in some playoff type basketball. Phil will shut down the team like he ALWAYS does during the postseason. NO DISTRACTIONS. Kobe and Fish will start to smell the postseason again. No more playing Cleveland. No more 7 game road trips. No more back to backs. No more 4 games in 5 nights. MORE time to study and prepare for our opponents.
And you guys doubt that these guys can get back into the swing of things? Phil been to the Finals in 13 of the last 19 years.
Be patient.
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How many times did the Lakers lose 3 games in a row last season?
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Well put CP.
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Originally Posted by CP1708
We're doing pretty much the same thing we did last year, the difference last year was Kobe hit the 7 buzzer beaters or whatever.
Without those 7 shots last year, we lose to Sac at home (sound familiar?)
We lose to the Bucks......sound familiar?
We lose in Memphis.......Pattern?
We lose in Boston
We lose to the Heat at home (not this year's Heat, last year's)
We lose at home to the Raptors
This year we've had one buzzer beater, vs the Clips by Fisher. We also were .1th of a second away from beating the Spurs.
It's why I try to remind you guys, a game can swing any direction for no reason. Lemme ask ya'll, if we win last night, vs the Cavs, what, everything is ok then? We're still "the Lakers" if we win last night, but not if we lose?I said it last night, the 4 wins to start the trip vs winning teams.....ok, 3.5 wins (DyHard) were less important then the 2 losses to bad teams? Where is the logic in that?
After March 12th, we have 11 home games, and 4 road games. A perfect stretch to work on our game, turn up the intensity, practice, do whatever it is we need too. Phil always finds a way. Also note, here we are, approaching March, and nobody is dead. Bynum is alive, Kobe is in better shape then normal (other then wearyiness) Barnes should be back in a week or two, even Ratliff may return. Nobody that we need in our 9 man rotation will miss significant time this season from January on other then Barnes. (knock on as much wood as you can find right now) That's key.
Boston last year went on the road vs the Cavs, then the Magic, and then us. They were older then we are this year. But because they are a veteran team, that had been there and done that, they handled their business. They had a 13 point lead in a game 7 in the 3rd quarter. They simply ran outta gas, and we made the plays at the end. We being another veteran team with know how.
We stay healthy, we get right during the final month mostly at home, we get to 55 wins or so, play our first round opponent, and go from there. See who we match up with, and how. Save Kobe's legs, Fisher's legs, keep Bynum with 2 legs, Odom and Gasol stary fresh, and hope that Barnes and Blake and Brown get that comfort back from early in the year, help us hustle it out more. And then get Ron interested in some playoff type basketball. Phil will shut down the team like he ALWAYS does during the postseason. NO DISTRACTIONS. Kobe and Fish will start to smell the postseason again. No more playing Cleveland. No more 7 game road trips. No more back to backs. No more 4 games in 5 nights. MORE time to study and prepare for our opponents.
And you guys doubt that these guys can get back into the swing of things? Phil been to the Finals in 13 of the last 19 years.He knows what he's doing.
Be patient.
Very good points. Still glad the AS break is here, though.
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I was honestly worried a few weeks back, but now I clearly see it is an effort problem which will definitely be fixed by the playoffs.
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my issue is this team really looks tired
3 straight trips to the Finals and then a tripe to Europe will do that
But I just don't get how an older Boston team looks more fresh even though they've played a lot of games over the past 3 seasons too
Hopefully they're just conserving energy for the playoffs
But if we get past SA and don't have HCA in the Finals, I don't see us winning the chip this year
3 straight trips to the Finals and then a tripe to Europe will do that
But I just don't get how an older Boston team looks more fresh even though they've played a lot of games over the past 3 seasons too
Hopefully they're just conserving energy for the playoffs
But if we get past SA and don't have HCA in the Finals, I don't see us winning the chip this year
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Just saw Kobe in a Smart Car in downtown
Looks like he's shooting a commercial.
Sorry no pics.
Looks like he's shooting a commercial.
Sorry no pics.
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alot stuff can be contributed to Phil tho...him testing the club throughout a lot of these games is gearing them up...sumtimes they fail sumtimes they pull through...when its stretches where its a goofy line up out there for too long and it causes them to lose the game...the next time around that line up may be able to respond better and help get a W in the playoffs
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I'm still not worried about the lakeshow. Artest and Bynum are playing like gaping vaginas right now. I can't wait until barnes comes back.
When is barnes supposed to be back?
When is barnes supposed to be back?
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i see a lot of similiarities with this team with that 2001 championship team. we looked really ugly in the regular season and lost to the last place clippers at home, the warriors and got swept in the season series against to the lottery bound sonics.
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yea but we went up against a weak 76's team.Originally Posted by westcoastsfinest
i see a lot of similiarities with this team with that 2001 championship team. we looked really ugly in the regular season and lost to the last place clippers at home, the warriors and got swept in the season series against to the lottery bound sonics.
We can't just turn it on against the Celtics when they will most likely have HC
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Originally Posted by kvsm23vs24
yea but we went up against a weak 76's team.Originally Posted by westcoastsfinest
i see a lot of similiarities with this team with that 2001 championship team. we looked really ugly in the regular season and lost to the last place clippers at home, the warriors and got swept in the season series against to the lottery bound sonics.
We can't just turn it on against the Celtics when they will most likely have HC
but we also went undefeated against a tough western conference playoff teams at the time. a very stacked blazers team, deep sacramento kings squad and the team with the best record in the spurs. i wouldnt call that sixer team weak due to the fact they were the only team to beat us in that playoff team. plus allen iverson was just remarkable.
again, im not going to worry unless we are in an elimination game during the playoffs. which is why i was pulling my hair during game 6 and game 7 of last years finals
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these laker fans are good at making themselves feel better....bunch of insecure dudes trying to rationalize...LMAO
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^lol no
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under 18? lol
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