Official Mad Men Season 5 Thread - Episode - 13 - "The Phantom" 6/10 10pm - Season Finale

Originally Posted by jhova718

just watched the show, wow @ roger. seems back from the dead, super foul tho.

not really, Megan's dad was cheating on her mom with a grad student, so the mom decided to dome up Roger
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Roger's record is impeccable
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Joan, Jane (
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), Megan's mom, and even his original wife who isn't bad for her age. I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting a few, but quality>>>quantity
 
when megan's dad said that line i was waiting for dom to knock his head off and then their be an even more awkward moment the rest of the season.
 
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@ Rog getting wop from Megan's mom.

Good ep. Really like the stories the creator and writers are coming up with and the dynamic of Don's new family/marriage. Mentioning the parents the last ep and introducing them immediately the next was a good move to focus on Megan's relationship with her dad. I feel where he's coming from.
 
Another great episode!

I was
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@ that line as well.  I wasn't sure if I heard him right until Megan corrected him lol.

It's always entertaining when Roger is in the scene.  I liked how he was being so good with Sally, then at the end Sally catches him getting dome from Megan's mom
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(who looked good for her age btw)

The shot at the end of them all sitting back at the dining table was great! So much awkwardness, they all looked super uncomfortable. 
I actually wasn't annoyed by Sally this episode either.  I liked the last line and how the episode ended..."how was the city?" "dirty." *end credits* 

Can't wait for the next ep!
 
great episode, best show on tv right now(or at least right next to GoT).. but Mad Men has been consistent week in week out this season.
 
Originally Posted by SFC415

Originally Posted by jhova718

just watched the show, wow @ roger. seems back from the dead, super foul tho.

not really, Megan's dad was cheating on her mom with a grad student, so the mom decided to dome up Roger
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Roger's record is impeccable
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Joan, Jane (
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), Megan's mom, and even his original wife who isn't bad for her age. I'm pretty sure I'm forgetting a few, but quality>>>quantity

Def agree. I hope they don't kill him off
 
Originally Posted by thekryptonite

I'm almost done with this season, these episodes have been uncharacteristically boring.
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I couldn't disagree moreSeason has been more entertaining than most. Maybe it's because there is less Betty in it. I am always catching up that's why I'm not in this thread. Just saw the fight episode. Great.
 
another great episode.

I love the new story line with Beth and Pete.

The ending with The Beatles and Don was a bit weird, something is off.

Show seems to have a lot going for itself thus far, lots of places to go
 
I really enjoyed this episode; I thought this was best of the season so far. 
Peggy.
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 Didn't hold back when voicing her displeasure to Megan about her antics, stood up for herself and told Don to shut up. 

I always enjoy an episode that revolves around Pete as much as this episode did. I kind of want to see more of Joan.
And the last couple minutes with Tomorrow Never Knows playing.
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I love where Pete's storyline is going. When they mentioned suicide in that opening scene in the train, I kinda got the feeling that Pete's gonna end up offing himself or something
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Originally Posted by hymen man

I love where Pete's storyline is going. When they mentioned suicide in that opening scene in the train, I kinda got the feeling that Pete's gonna end up offing himself or something
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Exactly what I was going to say. He is completely depressed and disenchanted with everything his life has to offer. Work, family, himself... He's disappointed at everything.




The symbolism of the open elevator door but no elevator is seemingly lost on me. Is this emphasizing the finality of Megan's decision and the newly created space between her and Don? Is this an allusion? Foreshadowing? What an eerie sequence.




And Mangudai, what do you mean by "kill him off?" Hopefully? You make it seem like this series is similar to Game of Thrones or The Wire.





I wonder how much it cost to license a Beatles tune. *heads off to HitFix*
 
Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by hymen man

I love where Pete's storyline is going. When they mentioned suicide in that opening scene in the train, I kinda got the feeling that Pete's gonna end up offing himself or something
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Exactly what I was going to say. He is completely depressed and disenchanted with everything his life has to offer. Work, family, himself... He's disappointed at everything.




The symbolism of the open elevator door but no elevator is seemingly lost on me. Is this emphasizing the finality of Megan's decision and the newly created space between her and Don? Is this an allusion? Foreshadowing? What an eerie sequence.




And Mangudai, what do you mean by "kill him off?" Hopefully? You make it seem like this series is similar to Game of Thrones or The Wire.





I wonder how much it cost to license a Beatles tune. *heads off to HitFix*
I think that's what that scene meant. She's entering into a part of her life where Don won't be able to take part in. Although after the episode finished, I think the elevator scene symbolized a dark point in their relationship. Obviously Don isn't happy with her decision and that whip cream presentation bombed without her. And it also seems like they won't be seeing much of each other anymore since her classes are at night. 
 
yeah the no elevator scene was strange to me too. I'm kind of disappointed that Dawn hasn't had any screen time since she slept over Peggy's place, haven't heard or seen anything from her since that episode, I thought they were going to explore the race aspect of the show's setting a bit more.

Really curious to see what happens with my dude Pete, he's been a weasel in the past but I've learned to really like 'em over the past few seasons.
 
What the God Sepinwall had to say:

But fulfilling Don's dreams has put her own on hold, and letting her return to them has Don facing a very literal abyss: the very first thing that happens after Megan leaves the office for good is Don nearly stepping into an empty elevator shaft.


Weirdly, I thought the shaft could always have signaled a tragedy: Megan's death. Crazy, I know.
 
Originally Posted by HankMoody

What the God Sepinwall had to say:
But fulfilling Don's dreams has put her own on hold, and letting her return to them has Don facing a very literal abyss: the very first thing that happens after Megan leaves the office for good is Don nearly stepping into an empty elevator shaft.
Weirdly, I thought the shaft could always have signaled a tragedy: Megan's death. Crazy, I know.
I thought the same. When he went back to his office before Roger came in I swore I heard a crash sound signifying the elevator she in crashed.

The whole empty elevator shaft really caught me off guard. I was actually tense the next few scenes not sure what was gonna happen to her.

Gotta love Pete's journey as he still can't get right and find that spark with a woman that'll last. He still strikes me as the guy who wants to cheat just to do it cuz he thinks he has to go through it to come full circle like Don. To me he still is purposely ignoring what Don told him in the taxi a few eps back.

Swore I saw a reaction from Roger when Don mentioned Megan's mom
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Joan is seeming more bitter and cynical lately with her advice or maybe she just acts that way with Peggy.

This was an okay ep that built up some more things for a few characters.
 
Just watched the LSD episode

One of the best I've seen. The 3 stories blended so well. They went sopranos style with the psycological scenes during the acid

Ths season has been so damn good so far
 
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Swore I saw a reaction from Roger when Don mentioned Megan's mom
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Joan is seeming more bitter and cynical lately with her advice or maybe she just acts that way with Peggy.


Roger definitely flinched when Don mentioned her 
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Pete is definitely the poster child for  "first world problems". Dude has a great job, is married to Alison Brie 
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, has a nice home, and has pretty much everything most people want to achieve, yet dude is frustrated with life.
 
I haven't seen Principal Belding that upset/disappointed since Zack was busted for a DUI.
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from Todd VanDerWerff's review at the AV Club
Cool Whip’s a chemical imitation of the real thing, something that’s designed to taste good enough to surpass the original, so long as you just give in and “taste it.
 
The whole buying health insurance thing makes me think Pete is going to die. Maybe in a car crash since he's apparently a terrible driver. Or via suicide with that rifle that was discussed since he brings up that after two years his insurance covers suicide.

I also thought the ski's were interesting. They were brief, but for me indicated that his life is on a (slippery) downhill slope.
 
Originally Posted by KickHead23

The whole buying health insurance thing makes me think Pete is going to die. Maybe in a car crash since he's apparently a terrible driver. Or via suicide with that rifle that was discussed since he brings up that after two years his insurance covers suicide.

Yea I'm kinda thinking so too. They've dropped many subtle hints at something maybe happening to him so I wouldn't be too surprised.
 
[h1]The Alien Mystique: Megan Draper and the Upending of the Mad Men Universe[/h1]By Andy Greenwald on May 11, 2012 1:15 PM ET
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In 1966, an alien crash-landed on Earth. He was an unlikely figure, even considering his cosmic origins: speaking English (if a little oddly) and draped in the trappings of counterculture. He admired the humans he encountered in New York City, though, and soon came to work among them. Thanks to his surprising abilities he was eventually accepted by the Earthmen, even if he could never truly be one of them.

It can’t be a coincidence that Matthew Weiner, Mad Men creator and control freak par excellence, introduced his own Martian, copywriter Michael Ginsberg, the same year Marvel Comics unveiled the Silver Surfer. Like Holocaust baby Ginsberg, the Surfer was an improbable survivor, the product of a desperate sacrifice, his still-beating heart a constant reminder of those left behind. Ginsberg feels like an alien, both to himself and to his new colleagues at Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce, yet he is eager to belong. As long as he keeps his voice down and his otherworldly skills focused on mundanities like cologne ads, his stranger-in-a-strange-land eccentricities (like understanding The Beatles) can be tolerated. Michael may call himself a spaceman, but inside the sturdy walls of a Manhattan office building, he’s really just another Other, not all that distinct from fellow outsider Dawn. Their differences are folded into the established culture easily enough because, when you get right down to it, they need their jobs more than their jobs need them.http://

Of course, the Silver Surfer didn’t come alone, and neither did Michael Ginsberg. Both served as harbingers for leggy, purple-mini-skirted giants who possessed the ability to unmake worlds. One was called Galactus. The other is married to Don Draper.

In a cable landscape overrun with flesh-eating zombies and flesh-slashing swordsmen,Mad Men has always offered a welcome dose of dedicated, if dated, reality. This season in particular has been masterful in its telescopic dissection of all the ways people collide and relationships crumble: quickly, painfully, and intimately; by giving your heart (and your ski pole) to someone else’s wife, or by listening to the truth-telling orchestras lurking inside that bottle of Stolichnaya. No show on television is more lyrical or insightful on the subject of human frailty and the limits of interaction. Yet while the themes may soar into the subjective, the imagery has remained stolidly grounded. Mad Men’s most memorable moments are, like the ads that made Don Draper’s reputation, built around the canny placement of familiar products: a Kodak carousel, a John Deere lawnmower, a box of Bugles, a mouthful of Howard Johnson orange sherbet. But recently Weiner has begun blasting his metaphors into outer space. Pete Campbell’s baby blues once signified his youthful vigor and ambition. Now we’re told that the poor bastard’s peepers are as icily distant and dead as the view of Earth from Planet Ginzo. Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce is still the center of the universe for its employees. But for the first time we’ve caught a glimpse of how insignificant that phrase really is, especially to those on the outside. The sneering is louder now, from Quebecois socialists and teenage rock-and-rollers alike. In the words of critic Starlee Kine, the alien invasion of SCDP has begun.

Last season, when Ida Blankenship, the one-time “queen of perversions
 
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