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Naw that's cool, as long as we're considering both geniuses then it's all good

After that mtv speech where Kanye said nothing for about 5 minutes everyone on ig was calling that man a genius, I didn't understand how they got genius from that speech. So now when I see Kanye and genius I just dismiss it because people say it after every damn thing he does.
 
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Naw that's cool, as long as we're considering both geniuses then it's all good

After that mtv speech where Kanye said nothing for about 5 minutes everyone on ig was calling that man a genius, I didn't understand how they got genius from that speech. So now when I see Kanye and genius I just dismiss it because people say it after every damn thing he does.

He's a genius cause he manipulated people to think everything he does is genius :lol
 
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Dudes not feeling recent Ye & try to disregard all his classic material previously. Like Jordan's seasons on the Wizards don't take away his 6 rings
 
Zay has past Fresh and I love Fresh. Zay been hot for 10 years. In the streets and on the charts.

I can't be mad at this. Mannie Fresh pretty much exclusively produced the Cash Money catalog between 1997-2004, and Zaytoven has now probably produced an equivalent amount if not more.
 
Zay is literally on every southern rappers tape. :lol I can't think of another producer that has had that much material at one time. Maybe the Neptunes.


The fact that he can play the piano like Stevie Wonder puts him in a different class. He ain't just punching on some machine.
 
Serious question

What makes Kanye more a musical genius than timbaland? Are we considering him a musical genius too?

For some reason people associate genius with acting crazy or eccentric.

Michael Jackson used to take propofol to go to sleep. Owned his own personal amusement park as an adult and claimed he fathered 3 kids that don't have any of his dna.

None of that makes him any less of a musical genius.

It's cool if you don't like Kanye but that doesn't mean that others don't like and appreciate his music.
 
Michael Jackson used to take propofol to go to sleep. Owned his own personal amusement park as an adult and claimed he fathered 3 kids that don't have any of his dna.

None of that makes him any less of a musical genius.

It's cool if you don't like Kanye but that doesn't mean that others don't like and appreciate his music.

Dudes get defensive for no reason at all :lol
 
Dudes get defensive for no reason at all
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What's there to be defensive about, Kanye is nuts and imbalanced but that doesn't mean I can't like the music.

Drake got pissed on, that won't stop me from liking the music.

Meek is a bit of douchebag in the way he handles himself in the real world but that won't stop me from being impartial and enjoy his music.

I'm nothing like these other dudes.  You seem to have something against every rapper that isn't named Meek Mill.
 
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Zay is literally on every southern rappers tape. :lol I can't think of another producer that has had that much material at one time. Maybe the Neptunes.


The fact that he can play the piano like Stevie Wonder puts him in a different class. He ain't just punching on some machine.

Talk about it :hat
 
What's there to be defensive about, Kanye is nuts and imbalanced but that doesn't mean I can't like the music.

Drake got pissed on, that won't stop me from liking the music.

Meek is a bit of douchebag in the way he handles himself in the real world but that won't stop me from being impartial and enjoy his music.

I'm nothing like these other dudes.  You seem to have something against every rapper that isn't named Meek Mill.

The fact you're typing a million words about Kanye

as if Kanye is the only so called musical genius and nut around. :lol Sorry duke, not everyone is so concerned about Kanye. I was thinking more in the terms of Lionel Richie who dominated the 80's arguably only behind Michael Jackson, but never gets credit because he didn't act like Madonna or Michael Jackson.

The term genius also allows people to excuse behavior, i.e. R Kelly and a lot of singers from the 60's and 70's.
 
The fact you're typing a million words about Kanye

as if Kanye is the only so called musical genius and nut around.
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Sorry duke, not everyone is so concerned about Kanye. I was thinking more in the terms of Lionel Richie who dominated the 80's arguably only behind Michael Jackson, but never gets credit because he didn't act like Madonna or Michael Jackson.

The term genius also allows people to excuse behavior, i.e. R Kelly and a lot of singers from the 60's and 70's.
So you're saying the artists with nutty behavior are basically more famous for their nutty behavior than their actual music.

You're right to a certain extent, I agree with that fully.  My second post wasn't even about Kanye.  It just seems you dislike anybody that's been brought up in the past that wasn't Meek Mill or Oschino.
 
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So you're saying the artists with nutty behavior are basically more famous for their nutty behavior than their actual music.

You're right to a certain extent, I agree with that fully.  My second post wasn't even about Kanye.  It just seems you dislike anybody that's been brought up in the past that wasn't Meek Mill or Oschino.

What in the world are you talking about :lol
 
What in the world are you talking about
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Doesn't even matter.  You feel dude isn't in the category of musical genius.  I feel that based on his production for others early in his career and his first 4 albums(Not counting 808s) he can be considered one.  I also said I feel like Timbaland is one also.  Another producer that I feel can be thrown in the mix is Swizz Beatz.

My threshold for throwing the genius word around may be lower than yours.  We probably won't see eye to eye, so lets just agree to disagree.
 
Damn Swizz beats too? A lot of of beats sound like random noise to me, but then again his resume is up there with best of them
 
Zay is literally on every southern rappers tape. :lol I can't think of another producer that has had that much material at one time..


**cough**dat ***** Lex Luger**cough**

You don't have to be a genius to get your behavior excused (i.e. Chris Brown, Justin Bieber ), just able to apologize good enough.
 
Wayne my personal goat solely based on his mixtape run, but them writer allegations tainted his legacy. I didn't forget about that ****.
I really think I prefer sober Gucci :lol

gillie backtracked the next month in XXL

too lazy to google it but google gillie da kid xxl interview if you care it's like from 06

not to mention, wayne still had a few prime level joints after the Gillie "exposal" namely the classic rap city freestyle where he disses him
 
Damn Swizz beats too? A lot of of beats sound like random noise to me, but then again his resume is up there with best of them
His late 90s/early 2000s work was great.  He was responsible for a lot of the best music that came from the whole Ruff Ryders and some of Jay-Z's best songs in that moment.
 
Are you really going to sit up here and act like you don't know what primary collaborator means? 

You really going to pretend like one album is only time they collaborated on the process of making music? 

been a while since i seen this gif

speaking of gillie :lol

that ***** a lowkey funny dude
 
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