Proposition Joe
formerly rollinwithangel
- Oct 5, 2012
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Independent as I knew it was how some of the H-Town cats used to do it
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**Official Meek Mill Thread****Dreamchasers IV Out Now**
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A lot of this isn't that different from independent success stories of the past.
Rocafella was a combination of an artist, money, and guys with music business experience. Wu before LOUD.
How else do you qualify what is/isn't independent other than it's free of a major label?
And even within the major system, there is still "independence".
Mass Appeal (Dave East), Cinematic (Joey Badass), Savage Mode (21 Savage EP) tape are all distributed by Sony/RED. RED is Sony's independent distribution arm (WEA has ADA, Universal has Caroline).
But what Sony/RED contributes varies drastically with each of those depending on whether or not each label WANTS to pay for RED's label services (Joey did for promo on "Devastated").
Otherwise the labels do everything themselves. Video, publicity, marketing, promo. And RED just distributes. Nobody dictates to those labels what they release, how they release, how it's marketed/promoted etc.
It's hard to qualify/quantify all the different circumstances behind an artist's "independence" other than he's not on one of the majors.
That's why I like what Chance did by passing on those deals. I wish artists did it more often when they can.
Rocafella was a combination of an artist, money, and guys with music business experience. Wu before LOUD.
How else do you qualify what is/isn't independent other than it's free of a major label?
And even within the major system, there is still "independence".
Mass Appeal (Dave East), Cinematic (Joey Badass), Savage Mode (21 Savage EP) tape are all distributed by Sony/RED. RED is Sony's independent distribution arm (WEA has ADA, Universal has Caroline).
But what Sony/RED contributes varies drastically with each of those depending on whether or not each label WANTS to pay for RED's label services (Joey did for promo on "Devastated").
Otherwise the labels do everything themselves. Video, publicity, marketing, promo. And RED just distributes. Nobody dictates to those labels what they release, how they release, how it's marketed/promoted etc.
It's hard to qualify/quantify all the different circumstances behind an artist's "independence" other than he's not on one of the majors.
That's why I like what Chance did by passing on those deals. I wish artists did it more often when they can.
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flesh prince
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Now it would do nothing but in 2012...everyone was loving that Yellow Album. And he could have had the same lane Snoop had when he really became mainstream and an icon post-No Limit where it was just laid back feel good music that was in his lane, but anyone could enjoy.
He had the same appeal of a Wiz or Drake whee he could naturally make music that alienated no demographics.
wavy daddy
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Im from the H so thats what independent is to me in my eyes.
100% your money goin in and commin out.
But then again, there were distribution deals that 'independent' rappers had but thats all it was.
What about if you got people investing in your career lookin out for you on studio time and beats and payin a certain percentage back?
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Right, but would he have gotten more money from signing? He would have signed if it was lucrative enough. DOM just hasn't gotten a deal that makes signing to a label worth it.
Even in 2012 he was making like 600k plus a year I think. With DOM it's literally all about the bread tbh and he is the closest you'll see to someone who's legit indie. He has his own label, goes on his own tour, he has his own dj and artists signed to his own label, not to mention he has 100% control of every record he makes, when to release it, etc. he's caking man and has been for awhile.
There's no real point in signing to a label. He's making more money than almost all of these ****** out here
tyevvyotcu
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- Jul 18, 2012
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i just don't want him to go the thugger/gucci route which is quantity over quality
$tacy
formerly willchamberlain
- Nov 24, 2012
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But thugger and gucci been putting out quality [emoji]129300[/emoji]. He sitting on all those snippets, might as well release them tapes and if u can finesse 70k people to buy free music that's free bands until album time. Gotta try to get 1 of these songs to stick.
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One of them has been putting out quality, and the other had to put on lingerie to try to get people to buy his music
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$tacy
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I love the consistency man
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Artists that release projects too close to each other were holding out on material on the first project...if Meek had these joints he could've waited another 2-3 weeks (he already waited all this time) and put one complete project out
$tacy
formerly willchamberlain
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No need to put out a project with 20+ songs. Keep it short and sweet.
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Unless he wants to hold out for DC5
Looks like this will be another full project of songs?
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HOU$TON
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Let's get it
starboy
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- Oct 23, 2016
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Meek not even trying with these videos
http://www.complex.com/music/2016/11/meek-mill-new-video-way-up-featuring-tracy-t
Its like the same exact scene every time.
http://www.complex.com/music/2016/11/meek-mill-new-video-way-up-featuring-tracy-t
Its like the same exact scene every time.
tyevvyotcu
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im saying they both could just release condensed projects with all the good songs from each one. (this doesn't apply to gucci post jail)
$tacy
formerly willchamberlain
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I guess I see it. Dude must've liked the way it felt when dc4 dropped, to have people embracing him again instead of clowning him. I know he sitting on too many tracks.
tyevvyotcu
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i just want contagious
that right now joint
bust down and the bron song.
that right now joint
bust down and the bron song.
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An interview about doing an interview.
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Meek not even trying with these videos
http://www.complex.com/music/2016/11/meek-mill-new-video-way-up-featuring-tracy-t
Its like the same exact scene every time.
Another way to promote to song and album. Some people will just come across it on YouTube or another website. It's smart. There's no reason to have a big budget video when you're promoting the song and you.
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Meek not even trying with these videos
http://www.complex.com/music/2016/11/meek-mill-new-video-way-up-featuring-tracy-t
Its like the same exact scene every time.
Just like his music
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View media item 2220248DC4.5 OTW
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This better have the intro from the snippet
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DC 4.5 is a good thing. Drop enough music and the good tracks will rise to the top and we'll forget about trash like Froze.
- Aug 4, 2010
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meek finally moving right
