Official Miami Heat (4) vs OKC Thunder (1) NBA Finals Thread - Miami Heat NBA Champions

[certifiedsw]

Originally Posted by memphisboi55

Originally Posted by CertifiedSW

Let's not forget the horrible blocking call they made on Battier that should have been a charge on Durant and taken him out of the game. Bad calls both ways.

Almost had like 7 heart attacks watching the game though.

So you didn't see Shane move his position at the last second to try and get under KD?

I did. Collison has done the same thing and gotten the charge called. It was a bang bang play that should have gone in Miami's favor. 
The point I was trying to make wasn't about the charge, it was that you can't say that that one no call on LeBron at the end of the game changed everything because there were calls before that that could have also changed the outcome. 

 

[sorkoram]

Originally Posted by Scientific Method

On the opposite hand, Spo played Bosh at the 5 with Battier at the 4. How often does he use that lineup? NEVER. He knew Brooks would be too stupid to change his lineup so he could go small and count on a 6 minute headstart at the beginning of the game and the beginning of the 3rd.

He started running that lineup during the Indiana series, even more during the Boston series. It put LeBron at the 5, since we didn't have Bosh available. Funny thing is, that lineup worked quite well.

 

[darthska]

So what's Dwade's record in Danny Crawford reffed games now compared to non-Danny games?

17-4 vs. 48-40?

That right?

 

[mr s j king]

If LeBron gets a ring this year he owes it all to Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon.
This was an official Dream shot from the 94-95 Finals.

 

[durantula]

Originally Posted by CertifiedSW

Originally Posted by memphisboi55

Originally Posted by CertifiedSW

Let's not forget the horrible blocking call they made on Battier that should have been a charge on Durant and taken him out of the game. Bad calls both ways.

Almost had like 7 heart attacks watching the game though.

So you didn't see Shane move his position at the last second to try and get under KD?

I did. Collison has done the same thing and gotten the charge called. It was a bang bang play that should have gone in Miami's favor. 
The point I was trying to make wasn't about the charge, it was that you can't say that that one no call on LeBron at the end of the game changed everything because there were calls before that that could have also changed the outcome. 

If you're referring to the charge he took on Norris Cole, he was set way before cole took off. What do you mean a bang bang play that should've gone in Mia's favor? So you're saying they got the call right (which they did) but they should have gotten it wrong just so Mia could get the call. lol. What about the one where harden got bumped on the perimeter and there was a no call but then chalmers took the charge on him 2 seconds later? That should've never happened in the first place.

 

[KMante]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

So what's Dwade's record in Danny Crawford reffed games now compared to non-Danny games?

17-4 vs. 48-40?

That right?

The refs weren't the reason why the Heat started 18-2 

Crazy stat though 

 

[itsabaythang]

^ They didnt call Chalmers bump on Harden cause dude stays floppin.  He got Wade in the first with some tacky flop running up the court.  Then he tried to flop again on James when James dished the assist to Bosh for the dunk.  And on top of that, Harden still flopped a little on that chalmers bump.  Thats what happens when you flop.  Sometimes you get a BS foul call, sometimes you wont get a call when your actually fouled.  It evens out.

 

[durantula]

That was a clear cut call tho, he ran into him after he caught the ball, no debate. Then he picked up a charge right after, straight inconsistency by the refs

 

[elpablo21]

Originally Posted by Mr S J King

If LeBron gets a ring this year he owes it all to Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon.
This was an official Dream shot from the 94-95 Finals.

Blake and Ibaka need to go see my guy Hakeem this summer

 

[scientific method]

Coach Nick does a good vs bad vs meh breakdown of all of Russell's plays individually from game 2, he's a notorious Westbrook basher by the way. He scored 12 good, 8 bad, 3 meh. He is still missing the 4th quarter

 

[lilpennymagicfan1]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

So what's Dwade's record in Danny Crawford reffed games now compared to non-Danny games?

17-4 vs. 48-40?

That right?

are you saying D wade got any favorable calls yesterday?
Games was called horribly on both ends.

 

[elpablo21]

LOL.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Certainly was not clear cut

 

[darthska]

lilpennymagicfan1:

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23ska909red02:

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So what's Dwade's record in Danny Crawford reffed games now compared to non-Danny games?

17-4 vs. 48-40?

That right?

are you saying D wade got any favorable calls yesterday?
Games was called horribly on both ends.

First off, if Wade played and there were NBA refs involved, he got favorable calls. Period. I mean, that's just a given at this point. (I'm a Lakers fan, so you might be tempted to throw Kobe out there in a discussion about 'superstar calls'. Feel free; Kobe does get superstar calls.)

Second, numbers don't lie; people do. What's Wade's NBA playoff record w/ Crawford vs. games w/o Crawford?

 

[duba169]

Originally Posted by CertifiedSW

Let's not forget the horrible blocking call they made on Battier that should have been a charge on Durant and taken him out of the game. Bad calls both ways.

Almost had like 7 heart attacks watching the game though.

He was clearly moving and I'm frankly tired of battier and his antics. At this point i hate looking at his face. try to make a defensive play you wimp. The entire heat team looks for bail outs and trickey. Especially chalmers, battier, and wade.This league needs to fix the charge rule. It's ruining the flow and game. Plus it causes half the flops that happenI haven't gotten on brooks but he's a moron for playing Perkins so much. What a %#++*#$ DUMB choice.Durant was fouled on that play. But the ref ain't calling that. I wonder If lebron gets that call. I honestly don't know.Whoever the bald, black ref was... He was all heat all the time. I'm assuming that's Crawford but I'm not sure. He was the only ref that looked shady. But it was over and over.Westbrook made a good amount of terrible decisionsBut the main thing is the thunder win that game if they don't go down 17 points in the first. I mean jeez. That's three games in a row and all at home!

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

I Durant didn't get that call, no ones getting that call.

 

[darthska]

Wait, you guys are seriously arguing that Battier/Durant call?

It is/was SOOOOOOO clear that Battier was moving.

 

[duba169]

And I forgot to mention that the thunder missed so many free throws!

And ##!$ yuku. What's the point of the site if it fails at the most important point of the season. Terrible.

 

[Peep Game]

Harden throwing his head back before Battier even made contact with him had me

So glad they got that call right

Battier and Westbrook running into each other and both falling back and the same time had me dying too

This year
has been unbelievable as far as flopping goes.

 

[scientific method]

I didn't see anything too egregious with Wade really. Like everyone else, I am not a fan of the slid under as a guy is jumping charges, and yes I acknowledge that Collison tends to do it too. The NBA also needs to make the whole hand in a player's eyes thing illegal like it is on every other level of basketball. In the NBA it is too, although it's written weirdly and therefore only illegal when the player doesn't have the ball and you are defensing them from behind.

The bald ref was Tom Washington.

Danny Crawford is this guy

Tony Brother was the other

great photo

 

[essential1]

There's a big difference to the Durant blocking call & the non call at the end of the game..

-One was a 50/50 call. In which a role player & a superstar who had 5 fouls 3:20 left in a game with the other team having a 6 point lead. Clear charge or clear block.. You don't want any star player taken out of a finals game for a call that could go either way.. And that is why they called it on Battier, because it could go either way. A vast percentage of charging calls/blocking calls could go either way legitimately

-The other Lebron got caught sleeping on that inbound pass, and fouled Durant clearly whether by panic or not.. Lebron fouled Durant 3 different times in a span of 2 seconds on 1 play (1st was on the spin Durant did Lebron shoved KD causing him to be unbalanced going up, 2nd was when he had his arm under KDs and pushed as he was going up, 3rd Lebron's arm struck KD's leg at the top of KD's jumper), and not to mention those fouls clearly altered a very make-able shot to tie the game.. It would not have been a deciding play because 1. Miami gets the chance for a win in final 7 seconds.. 2. If not there is a 5 minute OT that favors Miami because Durant had 5 fouls. You have to call that..

The Thunder coming out down 18-2 is inexcusable, but they had a chance to tie that game, and the refs swallowed their whistle on a clear foul.

 

[miamib30514]

Dudes saying he was moving ... yall do know the rule states that it doesn't matter if you're moving or not right?

Battier was there wayyyy before Durant. 1-1 lets go.

 

[po2345]

OKC fans saying the game was lost on the non-call with LeBron.

Durant shouldn't have took that shot to begin with the non-call on Durant for the charge on Battier. He should have been sitting on the bench.

Just like Game 6 against SA, the Referee's didn't call crucial calls for SA which prevented them from winning the game, but it's not the reason they lost. Poor execution in previous Q's was.

Same story here. Different series.

OKC lost, because they played worse. Simply Put.

PO

 

[darthska]

miamib30514:

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Dudes saying he was moving ... yall do know the rule states that it doesn't matter if you're moving or not right?
No it doesn't.

NBA.com:

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A block/charge foul occurs when a defender tries to get in front of his man to stop him from going in that direction. If he does not get into a legal defensive position and contact occurs, it is a blocking foul. If he gets to a legal position and the offensive player runs into him it is an offensive foul. In both situations, if the contact is marginal, no foul may be called. To get into a legal position defending against the dribble, the defender needs to get his torso directly in the path and beat him to the spot. On a drive to the basket, the defender must get to his position before the shooter starts his upward shooting motion. For off ball players, the defender must get into position and allow enough opportunity for the offensive player to stop and/or change direction. All ties are considered blocks as the defender did not beat him to the spot but arrived at the same time.

 

[scientific method]

Shane slides in after the player has left their feet. Even in his video teaching how to draw charges, most would be blocks.