Official MLB Offseason Post: Michael Young asks for a trade.

[abovelegit1]

Originally Posted by WearinTheFourFive

And at that point we get someone like Holliday, who will put up mediocre numbers for us, get traded, and bat .500 the rest of the year.

The system NEEDS to change. This is a joke.

AL pitching probably had something to do Holliday's struggles. And if they had a new stadium I'm sure more free agents would be willing to sign. I know they're trying to move to San Jose but haven't heard too much about it...
Not sure what your upset about though. The A's are in a pretty good spot. They've been assembling a good young pitching staff, and their farm system is flush with talented position players. I'm sure Beane will pick up an impact bat or two, one way or another...

 

[abovelegit1]

Originally Posted by WearinTheFourFive

And at that point we get someone like Holliday, who will put up mediocre numbers for us, get traded, and bat .500 the rest of the year.

The system NEEDS to change. This is a joke.

AL pitching probably had something to do Holliday's struggles. And if they had a new stadium I'm sure more free agents would be willing to sign. I know they're trying to move to San Jose but haven't heard too much about it...
Not sure what your upset about though. The A's are in a pretty good spot. They've been assembling a good young pitching staff, and their farm system is flush with talented position players. I'm sure Beane will pick up an impact bat or two, one way or another...

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

How close is Jemile Weeks to making it the big leagues

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

How close is Jemile Weeks to making it the big leagues

 

[what up]

Originally Posted by WearinTheFourFive

Yeah, %+!@ Beltre. That douche toyed with us after both of his last 2 contracts.

   He could have really.....cleaned you guys out.

 

[what up]

Originally Posted by WearinTheFourFive

Yeah, %+!@ Beltre. That douche toyed with us after both of his last 2 contracts.

   He could have really.....cleaned you guys out.

 

[wearinthefourfive]

Weeks has been kind of a disappointment, and isn't moving along as quickly as some would have hoped for a mid first rounder. the fact that we picked up Ellis' option makes it pretty evident that Weeks probably won't be getting any shine this coming year. I'm wayyy more excited about the arrival of Grant Green, and I'd be perfectly fine with a 6-4 combo of Pennington and Green for years to come. Hopefully Weeks can find himself this year, and hopefully Michael Taylor bounces back after being MIA all of last year.

 

[wearinthefourfive]

Weeks has been kind of a disappointment, and isn't moving along as quickly as some would have hoped for a mid first rounder. the fact that we picked up Ellis' option makes it pretty evident that Weeks probably won't be getting any shine this coming year. I'm wayyy more excited about the arrival of Grant Green, and I'd be perfectly fine with a 6-4 combo of Pennington and Green for years to come. Hopefully Weeks can find himself this year, and hopefully Michael Taylor bounces back after being MIA all of last year.

 

[wearinthefourfive]

Originally Posted by What up

Originally Posted by WearinTheFourFive

Yeah, %+!@ Beltre. That douche toyed with us after both of his last 2 contracts.

   He could have really.....cleaned you guys out.

 

[wearinthefourfive]

Originally Posted by What up

Originally Posted by WearinTheFourFive

Yeah, %+!@ Beltre. That douche toyed with us after both of his last 2 contracts.

   He could have really.....cleaned you guys out.

 

[kiddin like jason]

Damn Lincecum and Major League Baseball.

Imagine for a moment a Cleveland Indians rotation headlined by C.C.Sabathia, Cliff Lee, and Tim Lincecum. That is a rotation that would godown as one for the ages and matchup with the all time great ones ofthe past.

Such a rotation for the Indians was actually possible five years ago.

Back in 2005, the Indians were contending again with a young nucleusled by two young left-handed hurlers headlining the rotation inSabathia and Lee. Both pitchers were far from their true Cy Young formthey would find later on in their careers, but both were still verygood and in the upper percentile of pitchers in the league.

Later that year over the summer the Indians drafted Lincecum in the42nd round of the June Draft, which meant that all three pitchers -arguably three of the top five pitchers in the game today - were underthe Indians' control for a short time in the summer of 2005.

Of course when you flash forward back to 2010, baseball's lack ofparity when it comes to money doomed what could have been for theIndians. Instead of a rotation to build around for a decade, bothSabathia and Lee have since been sent away because of the belief thatthey inevitability could not be resigned. As for Lincecum, he turneddown the Indians offer to sign and went back to school.

But the story behind why Lincecum was not signed, at least from theIndians perspective, has never really been shared. Until now.

Going back five years to the negotiations between the Indians andLincecum, it was really something of a first that baseball hadexperienced with regard to the draft. That is, a player taken in thevery late rounds with extremely high bonus demands getting sincereinterest from a Major League team wanting to sign him.

When you get to the late rounds of the draft teams are usually draftingfor need by picking up signable players to “fill

 

[kiddin like jason]

Damn Lincecum and Major League Baseball.

Imagine for a moment a Cleveland Indians rotation headlined by C.C.Sabathia, Cliff Lee, and Tim Lincecum. That is a rotation that would godown as one for the ages and matchup with the all time great ones ofthe past.

Such a rotation for the Indians was actually possible five years ago.

Back in 2005, the Indians were contending again with a young nucleusled by two young left-handed hurlers headlining the rotation inSabathia and Lee. Both pitchers were far from their true Cy Young formthey would find later on in their careers, but both were still verygood and in the upper percentile of pitchers in the league.

Later that year over the summer the Indians drafted Lincecum in the42nd round of the June Draft, which meant that all three pitchers -arguably three of the top five pitchers in the game today - were underthe Indians' control for a short time in the summer of 2005.

Of course when you flash forward back to 2010, baseball's lack ofparity when it comes to money doomed what could have been for theIndians. Instead of a rotation to build around for a decade, bothSabathia and Lee have since been sent away because of the belief thatthey inevitability could not be resigned. As for Lincecum, he turneddown the Indians offer to sign and went back to school.

But the story behind why Lincecum was not signed, at least from theIndians perspective, has never really been shared. Until now.

Going back five years to the negotiations between the Indians andLincecum, it was really something of a first that baseball hadexperienced with regard to the draft. That is, a player taken in thevery late rounds with extremely high bonus demands getting sincereinterest from a Major League team wanting to sign him.

When you get to the late rounds of the draft teams are usually draftingfor need by picking up signable players to “fill

 

[wearinthefourfive]

^Funny how 2 of them are probably going to be playing for the Yankees next year...also very sad. Timmy will never leave California though, he loves that 

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[wearinthefourfive]

^Funny how 2 of them are probably going to be playing for the Yankees next year...also very sad. Timmy will never leave California though, he loves that 

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[mr jordan04]

UPDATE: ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick reports Tuesday night that the Los Angeles Angels are throwing their hat in the Cliff Lee sweepstakes.

Earlier Tuesday evening, several outlets, including the New York Daily News, reported that the Nationals are preparing to offer Lee a 7-year deal worth as much as $175 million

 

this contract + jayson werthless' will blow up in their face

 

[mr jordan04]

UPDATE: ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick reports Tuesday night that the Los Angeles Angels are throwing their hat in the Cliff Lee sweepstakes.

Earlier Tuesday evening, several outlets, including the New York Daily News, reported that the Nationals are preparing to offer Lee a 7-year deal worth as much as $175 million

 

this contract + jayson werthless' will blow up in their face

 

[lb510]

7 for 175?

Isn't Lee 32?

 

[lb510]

7 for 175?

Isn't Lee 32?

 

[wearinthefourfive]

Who are they THAT scared of in our division? Going after Crawf AND Lee?

 

[wearinthefourfive]

Who are they THAT scared of in our division? Going after Crawf AND Lee?

 

[livemyreality]

Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04

UPDATE: ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick reports Tuesday night that the Los Angeles Angels are throwing their hat in the Cliff Lee sweepstakes.

Earlier Tuesday evening, several outlets, including the New York Daily News, reported that the Nationals are preparing to offer Lee a 7-year deal worth as much as $175 million

 

this contract + jayson werthless' will blow up in their face

Ned Coletti when will you ever learn?

 

[livemyreality]

Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04

UPDATE: ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick reports Tuesday night that the Los Angeles Angels are throwing their hat in the Cliff Lee sweepstakes.

Earlier Tuesday evening, several outlets, including the New York Daily News, reported that the Nationals are preparing to offer Lee a 7-year deal worth as much as $175 million

 

this contract + jayson werthless' will blow up in their face

Ned Coletti when will you ever learn?

 

[mr jordan04]

Originally Posted by JumpmanFromDaBay

The only way the A's get a bat is if they make a trade. Nobody wants to play at the Coliseum

and everybody knows they are willing to trade anybody at the deadline. so if youre a FA, you know it's a big chance you'll get traded in July if you're having a good/decent season
  

 

[mr jordan04]

Originally Posted by JumpmanFromDaBay

The only way the A's get a bat is if they make a trade. Nobody wants to play at the Coliseum

and everybody knows they are willing to trade anybody at the deadline. so if youre a FA, you know it's a big chance you'll get traded in July if you're having a good/decent season
  

 

[abovelegit1]

Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04

UPDATE: ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick reports Tuesday night that the Los Angeles Angels are throwing their hat in the Cliff Lee sweepstakes.

Earlier Tuesday evening, several outlets, including the New York Daily News, reported that the Nationals are preparing to offer Lee a 7-year deal worth as much as $175 million

 

this contract + jayson werthless' will blow up in their face

Who cares if they're spending money? If the revenue streams that come from having a successful team > payroll, it doesn't matter. Having a billionaire owner doesn't hurt either. Yes, the Werth contract is ridiculous, it's unlikely he'll be worth the money in 4 or so years, but if C.C Sabathia is worth 23 mil per, a command pitcher (who is likely to maintain performance regardless of fastball velocity) is worth 25 mil per.

Here are the C.Lee performance projections for a 7 year deal:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove10/insider/news/story?id=5895071

Nats makin moves 

New Yankees of the NL