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Kimbo's face when he seen someone get hurt = priceless
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You can tell Rashad really got to Rampage and got him heated at the end. I thought Rampage was going to swing at him right then and there.
 
Bernard Hopkins Thinks MMA is a Gay Porno, Not a Sport
By Mark Vester

Light heavyweight contender Bernard Hopkins spoke with BoxingScene.com about the sport of Mixed Martial Arts - and Hopkins held nothing back when he expressed his feelings about the UFC craze. Hopkins told BoxingScene's Bill Emes that grown men should not be watching MMA. He says MMA is not a sport, and compared it to a porno movie. According to Hopkins, he would feel "suspect" [possibly gay] if he bought a ticket to watch MMA.

"Everybody is different. I don't want to watch two grown men wrestling with panties on. I'm from the hood, we don't play that. To me, I'm not buying a ticket to watch two grown men with panties on, sweating, [with] nuts in their face. That's not me. To compare that to boxing is ludicrous. It's a porno. It's an entertainment porno," Hopkins told BoxingScene. "I'm not wrestling a guy with panties on and his nuts in my face, and they call that a sport."

Hopkins would also tell BoxingScene that he wouldn't have a problem if MMA had an audience made up of women, but it bothers him that groups of men could get together to watch MMA events.

"I'm not criticizing people for what kind of entertainment they like. I think most of those people have chains and masks in their closets. There is something out there for everybody. I can understand if 90% of women were going to those things but I can't understand a grown man sitting there with a couple of guys watching two grown men with panties on, sweating. That's just my opinion. It's not a good look," Hopkins said.

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Who really cares what B Hopkins says? Dudes taken thousands of punches to the head... got who knows how much brain damage, and is scared of what MMA isbecoming.
 
Originally Posted by Lakersfan1

Originally Posted by chino905

Kimbo coming back
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i havent seen the episode yet but trust me they are gonna keep saying hes gonna come back for ever. Dont get our hopes up
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The clip has been pulled... but watch the episode where he fights Roy and pay attention when everyone is sitting by the pool. If you can find the clip or haveit DVR'd (I do, so I've actually gone back and watch it)... but Roy is telling someone how to fight Kimbo, "like he did"... Problem is, thatfootage is supposed to be from before the fight. If you watch it, you'll see who Kimbo will be fighting next.
 
hendo/ufc talks breaking down. leaving ufc now a possibility.

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Dan Henderson hasn't closed any doors yet with the UFC, but he's ready to move on if necessary.

Henderson, 39, fought the last fight of his latest contract at UFC 100, knocking out fellow "The Ultimate Fighter" coach Michael Bisping in the second round.

A Friday report from Yahoo! Sports said that UFC president Dana White has been unable to come to terms on a new contract with Henderson, all but confirming an exit for the former two-division Pride champion.

Henderson on Friday laughed at news he's been shown the door by the UFC.

"I'm still hoping to come to terms with the UFC, until I heard this," he said. "And I will be exploring other options for sure, but I definitely need to make sure I get paid."

Henderson acknowledged a stalemate with the promotion since he became a free agent in early August. In late September, he met with White and UFC co-owner and CEO Lorenzo Fertitta in Las Vegas, but remained at a distance on the numbers needed to secure his future services.

Henderson, however, said he hasn't made a final decision to leave the UFC and is still open to negotiations. His agent had talked with the promotion as recently as this week.

The former Olympic wrestler made his Octagon debut at UFC 17 and fought overseas for much of his career before returning at UFC 75 after the promotion's parent company, Zuffa LLC, purchased Pride in February 2007. He went 3-2 in his recent stint.

Henderson denied claims that he has been shopping his services to rival promotion Strikeforce, though he had an informal coffee meeting with Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker last weekend.

"I've never even seen an offer from them," he said.

Next week, Henderson plans to hunt in New Mexico and Utah and assess the situation when he returns. He remains firm on his terms for a deal with the UFC.

"UFC's got a business to run and I'm not doing charity work with this," he said. "I don't believe that I'm asking for too much money, and I know for a fact that I'm taking less money than other fighters."

On Nov. 7, Henderson will corner Team Quest teammate Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou at Strikeforce's CBS debut. Aaron Crecy, Henderson's business partner, said the show would give them a chance to scout out the promotion, and it was possible that a deal might be reached down the line.

Still, both asserted that nothing was set in stone, and Henderson wasn't worried about the situation.

"I'm sure that I'll find a job somewhere," he said.
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he's one of the top 5 fighters in the history of the sport and it doesnt sound like he's being unreasonable.

ufc needs to realize that as the sport grows, so will fighters' salaries.
 
Originally Posted by doyung9

Originally Posted by Lakersfan1

Originally Posted by chino905

Kimbo coming back
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i havent seen the episode yet but trust me they are gonna keep saying hes gonna come back for ever. Dont get our hopes up
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The clip has been pulled... but watch the episode where he fights Roy and pay attention when everyone is sitting by the pool. If you can find the clip or have it DVR'd (I do, so I've actually gone back and watch it)... but Roy is telling someone how to fight Kimbo, "like he did"... Problem is, that footage is supposed to be from before the fight. If you watch it, you'll see who Kimbo will be fighting next.
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so kimbo fights again is what ur saying?
 
DAN HARDY has hit back at Bernard Hopkins' claim that mixed martial arts is nothing more than 'entertainment pornography'.

Boxing legend Hopkins, 44, said he would never pay to see an MMA bout and rubbished claims it could replace boxing as the world's No1 combat sport.

He said: "I'm not buying a ticket to watch two grown men with panties on, sweating, with nuts in their face. It's a porno - it's anentertainment porno."

However, B-Hop's comments have left UFC superstar Dan Hardy fuming.

The 27-year-old has carved an impressive reputation in the UFC and is now regarded as Britain's No1 MMA fighter.

But he is outraged by the Executioner's derisory comments and insists the veteran is scared the lack of top talent in boxing will see more people switchfrom the sweet science to MMA.

Speaking exclusively to SunSport, Hardy roared: "Hopkins is allowed his opinion but I don't think this is what he really thinks.

"He knows that MMA is a tough sport and that the people involved are professional athletes.

"I remember him talking very well of Randy Couture a couple of years ago after watching Randy train.

"I get the feeling Hopkins lashed out at the UFC and MMA like he did because he knows nobody under the age of 35 cares about boxing any more.

"It must be hard to accept for people of his age, he has dedicated his life to a sport and now it is being eclipsed by something more exciting - the UFC.

"A large percentage of UFC fans are the people that used to buy boxing pay-per-views, but they now opt for the UFC instead.

"It's a difficult pill to swallow, I'm sure, but that's the reality of the situation and taking little digs at the UFC and MMA fans won'tchange this.

MASKED MAN ... Bernard Hopkins favoured this look on his way to the ring against Felix Trinidad in 2001

MASKED MAN ... Bernard Hopkins before a 2001 fight

"It seems Hopkins has a tendency to speak before thinking, what with his racist comment before his fight with Joe Calzaghe fight, and now his homophobicremark."

Hardy also rubbished the American's allegation that most MMA fans have chains and masks in their closets and offered to settle the score with himface-to-face.

The Outlaw blasted: "Insinuating that UFC fans must have chains and masks in their closets is just ridiculous.

"If I remember correctly, Hopkins enters the ring wearing a gimp mask, right?

"I think most MMA fans will give his criticism the contempt it deserves, but Hopkins is welcome to come and have a go if he doesn't take UFC fightersseriously.

"I'll take that fight and would promise not to wear panties and to keep my nuts off his face."
 
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"I get the feeling Hopkins lashed out at the UFC and MMA like he did because he knows nobody under the age of 35 cares about boxing any more.
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%+++! most ppl that are in love with UFC i find are uneducated morons around here, boxing is still huge and will stay huge
 
^ funny thing is uneducated people are the type of people who cant seem to grasp the very simple fact that the sport is called mixed martial arts and notultimate fighting.

uneducated people are the ones who call grappling 'gay' when it is in fact the oldest form of combat competition in existence.
"I'll take that fight and would promise not to wear panties and to keep my nuts off his face."
forget that +#%%.

slap him in triangle and have him be embarrased and outraged as he loses blood to his brain and passes out due to the fact that he is hugging balls.
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Originally Posted by Clutchshooter

hendo/ufc talks breaking down. leaving ufc now a possibility.

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Dan Henderson hasn't closed any doors yet with the UFC, but he's ready to move on if necessary.

Henderson, 39, fought the last fight of his latest contract at UFC 100, knocking out fellow "The Ultimate Fighter" coach Michael Bisping in the second round.

A Friday report from Yahoo! Sports said that UFC president Dana White has been unable to come to terms on a new contract with Henderson, all but confirming an exit for the former two-division Pride champion.

Henderson on Friday laughed at news he's been shown the door by the UFC.

"I'm still hoping to come to terms with the UFC, until I heard this," he said. "And I will be exploring other options for sure, but I definitely need to make sure I get paid."

Henderson acknowledged a stalemate with the promotion since he became a free agent in early August. In late September, he met with White and UFC co-owner and CEO Lorenzo Fertitta in Las Vegas, but remained at a distance on the numbers needed to secure his future services.

Henderson, however, said he hasn't made a final decision to leave the UFC and is still open to negotiations. His agent had talked with the promotion as recently as this week.

The former Olympic wrestler made his Octagon debut at UFC 17 and fought overseas for much of his career before returning at UFC 75 after the promotion's parent company, Zuffa LLC, purchased Pride in February 2007. He went 3-2 in his recent stint.

Henderson denied claims that he has been shopping his services to rival promotion Strikeforce, though he had an informal coffee meeting with Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker last weekend.

"I've never even seen an offer from them," he said.

Next week, Henderson plans to hunt in New Mexico and Utah and assess the situation when he returns. He remains firm on his terms for a deal with the UFC.

"UFC's got a business to run and I'm not doing charity work with this," he said. "I don't believe that I'm asking for too much money, and I know for a fact that I'm taking less money than other fighters."

On Nov. 7, Henderson will corner Team Quest teammate Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou at Strikeforce's CBS debut. Aaron Crecy, Henderson's business partner, said the show would give them a chance to scout out the promotion, and it was possible that a deal might be reached down the line.

Still, both asserted that nothing was set in stone, and Henderson wasn't worried about the situation.

"I'm sure that I'll find a job somewhere," he said.
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he's one of the top 5 fighters in the history of the sport and it doesnt sound like he's being unreasonable.

ufc needs to realize that as the sport grows, so will fighters' salaries.
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This.

You know what I think...Dan is giving Dana a hard time about Vitor going to fight Silva when he (dan) should have gotten the fight and rightfully so and Danadoesn't want to cave and let Dan fight Silva because he feels theres more profit to come from the Vitor vs. Silva fight because Silva and Wanderlei areclose and Wanderlei and Vitor have hated each other from a long time ago so my thought is that Dana see's how he can make that fight into a big rivalryfight to draw in the crowds and the money... UFC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HENDO IS WORTH and I also feel he's not asking for anything outrageous(sorrysp?
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On another note:

Mirko trying to commit suicide?:
"I was very, very disturbed after the loss to [Junior] dos Santos. I was in such a state that I wished to hang myself in my hotel room so I would be gone.Three losses in my last seven fights is nothing but a disaster to me. That's a terrible score, and I'm not happy about it. I am seriously thinkingabout hiring a psychiatrist to help me out. I have already made some calls about it." -- Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic to Croatian news siteNokaut, as translated by FightersOnly.com

Also these remnants of boxing past need to *%#$ already and stop hating...that is all.
 
Mirko trying to commit suicide?:

"I was very, very disturbed after the loss to [Junior] dos Santos. I was in such a state that I wished to hang myself in my hotel room so I would be gone. Three losses in my last seven fights is nothing but a disaster to me. That's a terrible score, and I'm not happy about it. I am seriously thinking about hiring a psychiatrist to help me out. I have already made some calls about it." -- Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic to Croatian news site Nokaut, as translated by FightersOnly.com

i think that was a line used figuratively that the media took and ran with.
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New matchups reported by sherdog:

• Takanori Gomi vs. Tony Hervey, Vale Tudo Japan 2009, Oct. 30, Tokyo

• John Kolosci vs. Shamar Bailey, Strikeforce "Fedor vs. Rogers," Nov. 7, Hoffman Estates, Ill. (The Northwest Times of Indiana)

• Jorge Santiago vs. Mamed Khalidov, Sengoku "Eleventh Battle," Nov. 7, Tokyo

• Ronnie Mann vs. Shigeki Osawa, Sengoku "Eleventh Battle," Nov. 7, Tokyo

• Danny Castillo vs. Shane Roller, WEC 44 "Brown vs. Aldo," Nov. 18, Las Vegas • Alex Karalexis vs. Kamal Shalorus, WEC 44 "Brown vs.Aldo," Nov. 18, Las Vegas

• Tyron Woodley vs. Rudy Bears, Strikeforce "Challengers Series 5," Nov. 20, Kansas City, Kan.

• Rafael Cavalcante vs. Aaron Rosa, Strikeforce "Challengers Series 5," Nov. 20, Kansas City, Kan.

• Sarah Kaufman vs. Takayo Hashi, Strikeforce "Challengers Series 5," Nov. 20, Kansas City, Kan.

• Kendall Grove vs. Jake Rosholt, UFC 106 "Lesnar vs. Carwin," Nov. 21, Las Vegas

• Caol Uno vs. Fabricio Camoes, UFC 106 "Lesnar vs. Carwin," Nov. 21, Las Vegas

• Paulo Thiago vs. Thiago Alves, UFC 107 "Penn vs. Sanchez," Dec. 12, Memphis, Tenn.

• Johny Hendricks vs. Ricardo Funch, UFC 107 "Penn vs. Sanchez," Dec. 12, Memphis, Tenn. (MMAWeekly.com)

• Carlos Condit vs. Paul Daley, UFC 108 "Silva vs. Belfort," Jan. 2, Las Vegas. (Fighters Only)

• Dan Lauzon vs. Cole Miller, UFC 108 "Silva vs. Belfort," Jan. 2, Las Vegas (MMAWeekly.com)

• Junior dos Santos vs. Gabriel Gonzaga, UFC 108 "Silva vs. Belfort," Jan. 2, Las Vegas (MMAJunkie.com)

• Josh Koscheck vs. Mike Pierce, UFC Fight Night 20, Jan. 11, Fairfax, Va. (MMAWeekly.com)

• Efrain Escudero v. Nik Lentz, UFC Fight Night 20, Jan. 11, Fairfax, Va. (MMA Fanhouse)

• Tom Lawlor vs. Aaron Simpson, UFC Fight Night 20, Jan. 11, Fairfax, Va. (MMAJunkie.com)

• Michael Guymon vs. Rory MacDonald, UFC Fight Night 20, Jan. 11, Fairfax, Va. (MixedMartialArts.com)

• Wanderlei Silva vs. Yoshihiro Akiyama, UFC 111, Feb. 21, Sydney, Australia
 
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DAN HARDY has hit back at Bernard Hopkins' claim that mixed martial arts is nothing more than 'entertainment pornography'.

Boxing legend Hopkins, 44, said he would never pay to see an MMA bout and rubbished claims it could replace boxing as the world's No1 combat sport.

He said: "I'm not buying a ticket to watch two grown men with panties on, sweating, with nuts in their face. It's a porno - it's an entertainment porno."

However, B-Hop's comments have left UFC superstar Dan Hardy fuming.

The 27-year-old has carved an impressive reputation in the UFC and is now regarded as Britain's No1 MMA fighter.

But he is outraged by the Executioner's derisory comments and insists the veteran is scared the lack of top talent in boxing will see more people switch from the sweet science to MMA.

Speaking exclusively to SunSport, Hardy roared: "Hopkins is allowed his opinion but I don't think this is what he really thinks.

"He knows that MMA is a tough sport and that the people involved are professional athletes.

"I remember him talking very well of Randy Couture a couple of years ago after watching Randy train.

"I get the feeling Hopkins lashed out at the UFC and MMA like he did because he knows nobody under the age of 35 cares about boxing any more.

"It must be hard to accept for people of his age, he has dedicated his life to a sport and now it is being eclipsed by something more exciting - the UFC.

"A large percentage of UFC fans are the people that used to buy boxing pay-per-views, but they now opt for the UFC instead.

"It's a difficult pill to swallow, I'm sure, but that's the reality of the situation and taking little digs at the UFC and MMA fans won't change this.

MASKED MAN ... Bernard Hopkins favoured this look on his way to the ring against Felix Trinidad in 2001

MASKED MAN ... Bernard Hopkins before a 2001 fight

"It seems Hopkins has a tendency to speak before thinking, what with his racist comment before his fight with Joe Calzaghe fight, and now his homophobic remark."

Hardy also rubbished the American's allegation that most MMA fans have chains and masks in their closets and offered to settle the score with him face-to-face.

The Outlaw blasted: "Insinuating that UFC fans must have chains and masks in their closets is just ridiculous.

"If I remember correctly, Hopkins enters the ring wearing a gimp mask, right?

"I think most MMA fans will give his criticism the contempt it deserves, but Hopkins is welcome to come and have a go if he doesn't take UFC fighters seriously.

"I'll take that fight and would promise not to wear panties and to keep my nuts off his face."
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Hardy should have ignored Hopkins, he talks out his %%# routinely. Anyway Hardy is wrong, boxing is still bigger than MMA. And it will be that wayfor many more years in the future.
 
boxing is still way bigger and more popular than mma

but mma is growing fast while the sports of boxing is slowly dying out. theres no more mike tyson, evaner holyfield, roy jones jr., and oscar de la hoya.theres no true all american champion anymore that the americans can root and cheer for. sure mayweather is back and everything, but the fact is hes not thatmarketable.

boxing critics come with their usual defensive comments and attack mma in a negative way.

mma is the closest sport u can have to actual real combat, its as simple as that.
 
Originally Posted by Battousai701

boxing is still way bigger and more popular than mma

but mma is growing fast while the sports of boxing is slowly dying out. theres no more mike tyson, evaner holyfield, roy jones jr., and oscar de la hoya. theres no true all american champion anymore that the americans can root and cheer for. sure mayweather is back and everything, but the fact is hes not that marketable.

boxing critics come with their usual defensive comments and attack mma in a negative way.

mma is the closest sport u can have to actual real combat, its as simple as that.
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True, but that is part of the charm of boxing. It being a science, two guys highly skilled trying to impose there will on the other fighter. Thereis so much to learn in MMA that you get fights with guys who are good at everything but not great at anything and alot of the time the fight is justunentertaining. It being more real does not necessarily make it better or more entertaining.
 
sure mayweather is back and everything, but the fact is hes not that marketable.


i dont know why people say this or who can actually believe it. it's not coincidence that his ppv numbers are so high. he's a controversial figurewhich only adds to the fact that he is the biggest draw in boxing.


True, but that is part of the charm of boxing. It being a science, two guys highly skilled trying to impose there will on the other fighter. There is so much to learn in MMA that you get fights with guys who are good at everything but not great at anything and alot of the time the fight is just unentertaining. It being more real does not necessarily make it better or more entertaining.

the whole use of the word 'science' to describe boxing was conjured up to make people feel more intelligent about watching guys club each other aboutthe face and torso.

it's a combat sport plain and simple and it's no more technical than mma.

you also cant really be claiming that most boxing matches are entertaining.

and i guarantee that most mixed martial artists are great at something. some of the best pure grapplers and strikers in the world participate in mma. thedemein maia's, bj penn's, ricardo arona's, dan henderson's, the georges st pierre's, the nogueira's. the jerome lebanner's,anderson silva's, mirko filipovic's, semmy schilt's.

fact of the matter is that most boxing enthusiasts comments about mma are made in a severely defensive manner, and more importantly, they are made out ofnowhere, when nobody asked.

it's a sign of insecurity and fear.
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thats the thing with boxing. its too much of a science sometimes. its a very limited sport. mayweather is arguably the most technically defensive fighter wehave today. but all his defensive techniques is not gonna work in a real fight, with no rules.

ive taken martial arts, including boxing, for a long time now. so i appreciate something more realistic.

if u really want to be a true fighter, u have to train EVERY part of ur body. not just the hands.

but this is besides the point i was trying to make...

what i was trying to say was that if america had a true legit champion again, like the ones i mentioned before, then boxing would see a rise to its formerglory. its kinda like how soccer is popular everywhere else in the world, but not here in the U.S. thats because the US soccer team sucks, hence no fans.

imagine if Fedor was american. think of how much bigger mma would be than it already is. hell even if he was an eloquent english speaking russian, the sportsof mma would be off the charts.
 
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sure mayweather is back and everything, but the fact is hes not that marketable.
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i dont know why people say this or who can actually believe it. it's not coincidence that his ppv numbers are so high. he's a controversial figure which only adds to the fact that he is the biggest draw in boxing.


people say this because its true and its a fact.

he was never a blockbuster ppv buy in his career before. he can thank de la hoya for his greatest ppv buy ever. his last ppv buy generated the numbers it didbecause it was his first return fight from retirement. his last fight was good. but it was nowhere near exciting that it left u off the edge of ur seat.

mayweather great boxer? YES

mayweather great entertainer and does he have that high level marketability? NO

he is no way near on the level of muhammad ali, sugar ray leonard, mike tyson, roy jones jr., and oscar de la hoya when is comes to entertainment value.
 
Originally Posted by Battousai701

Originally Posted by Clutchshooter


sure mayweather is back and everything, but the fact is hes not that marketable.
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i dont know why people say this or who can actually believe it. it's not coincidence that his ppv numbers are so high. he's a controversial figure which only adds to the fact that he is the biggest draw in boxing.
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people say this because its true and its a fact.

he was never a blockbuster ppv buy in his career before. he can thank de la hoya for his greatest ppv buy ever. his last ppv buy generated the numbers it did because it was his first return fight from retirement. his last fight was good. but it was nowhere near exciting that it left u off the edge of ur seat.

mayweather great boxer? YES

mayweather great entertainer and does he have that high level marketability? NO

he is no way near on the level of muhammad ali, sugar ray leonard, mike tyson, roy jones jr., and oscar de la hoya when is comes to entertainment value.



Stop it.

mayweather is the biggest draw in boxing. period.
 
mayweather is Not marketable?
da hell U smokin son?

u check his ppv numbers? U see his viewing numbers for his 24/7s? U see him in commercials?

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put it this way, HBO had a marketing meeting plan for 2010 couple weeks ago in NYC, and the only boxer invited was Floyd Mayweather. theres a reason for that,
 
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