OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

[P C H]

Kyrie might be my favorite player in the L right now

But...has he actually been better in Boston than he was in Cleveland last year? (So far)

 

[hardens beard]

Kyrie might be my favorite player in the L right now

But...has he actually been better in Boston than he was in Cleveland last year? (So far)

Offensively his numbers are down across the board but the leap he made on defense makes him a better player to me.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I'm not sure he's that great of a defender tho. I know the numbers say he is but watching games he's still pretty bad at times. Effort is definitely there tho

 

[squatchnt]

I've had this argument before and I think the answer is obvious but apparently it isn't.

Who is better on Iso, James Harden or Kyrie Irving?

Harden regular season and Myrie in post season game 7s

 

[nick.]

 

[antidope]

More moves =/= better scorer. Same thing i tried to ppl on here & in real-life years ago when Melo being the best "pure scorer" in the league was a popular opinion.

This is the same thing I said when I said that Tony Parker was better at the rim than Kyrie ever was.

Substance > Flash.

 

[hardens beard]

I'm not sure he's that great of a defender tho. I know the numbers say he is but watching games he's still pretty bad at times. Effort is definitely there tho

whenever I watch him, I see him fighting over screen, sprinting back in transition and contesting shoots.



He did none of this with the Cavs.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Kyrie might be my favorite player in the L right now

But...has he actually been better in Boston than he was in Cleveland last year? (So far)

Defense is on a different gear but it was basically a flat line on defense last year

 

[yobyellav]

It’s 4 people y’all would take in an iso over Kyrie?! Hard pressed for me to go with anyone besides Harden, and that’s arguable.

 

[hardens beard]

Bari favoring his knee or am I tripping?

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

whenever I watch him, I see him fighting over screen, sprinting back in transition and contesting shoots.



He did none of this with the Cavs.

This is 3 plays

 

[atransta]

Tough stretch to be a Thunder fan right now. Defense is good but for some reason when the game is close in the 4th teams just start getting hot as hell. They will eventually figure things out on offense and right the ship.

 

[hardens beard]

This is 3 plays

Example B. They're plenty more

Cant see how you watched him and not noticed this?

Edit: you can be a good defensive player and not be a lockdown defender by playing with effort and following a good game plan which Stevens obviously has.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Okc has a gatorade switch they can hit

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Tough stretch to be a Thunder fan right now. Defense is good but for some reason when the game is close in the 4th teams just start getting hot as hell. They will eventually figure things out on offense and right the ship.

I think it could be because they can rest on defense all game because nobody passes. So when the 4th comes they're full of life

 

[pmatic]

 

[lynchpin33]

Figured this was coming when Westbrook didnt get a triple double last night.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Example B. They're plenty more

Cant see how you watched him and not noticed this?

Edit: you can be a good defensive player and not be a lockdown defender by playing with effort and following a good game plan which Stevens obviously has.

I did say the effort was there. But like in the magic game he really wasn't doing that much, playing off ball. But when your team's defense is good the metrics will make you look good in a scenario like that

 

[B Sox]

I've watched every minute Kryie has played this year. He's not Avery Bradley or Marcus Smart, but he's been a serviceable defender.

 

[shotsrangout]

Thunder should just blow it up. Send pg to the cavs for JR and Tristan Thompson.

 

[hardens beard]

I. But when your team's defense is good the metrics will make you look good in a scenario like that

I'm saying he's contributing to the teams good defense not just benefiting from it.

 

[hardens beard]

I've watched every minute Kryie has played this year. He's not Avery Bradley or Marcus Smart, but he's been a serviceable defender.

I'd say he's more than serviceable. Can he get beat off the dribble? Yep. Will he occasionally use bad technique when being screened? Yep. But overall he's been a plus.

Will he be able to continue it for the whole season will be the key.

 

[B Sox]

I'd say he's more than serviceable. Can he get beat off the dribble? Yep. Will he occasionally use bad technique when being screened? Yep. But overall he's been a plus.

Will he be able to continue it for the whole season will be the key.

I think that's fair. As of now, he seems to have completely bought-in to Brad's system.

 

[100027]

I've watched every minute Kryie has played this year. He's not Avery Bradley or Marcus Smart, but he's been a serviceable defender.

And that's all that people have asked of him. And it's all the Celtics need from him, too.

 

[HIM]

Contrary to the narrative, Kyrie is an elite defender.