OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

Which Kobe was better

  • No. 8

    Votes: 29 49.2%
  • No. 24

    Votes: 30 50.8%

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Never said Bron had a bigger impact.
My overall point is it was way closer than you guys make it seem and y’all also try to disregard the situation around each player as if that doesn’t play a role in anything.

That wasn’t your original point....


Yeah the Finals LeBron averaged a triple double in on great efficiency while KD arguably wasn’t even the best player on his team in that series :lol:

Goal posts.....MOVED
 
If he averaged 1 less assist....He couldn’t be on his Cry-rese.

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Warriors have won their championships due them having a far superior supporting cast. In 2014, Bron is the primary reason that injured *** team won any games in the series. His efficiency wasn't great because he literally had to do EVERYTHING with no Kyrie, no Love. In 2017, Cavs Big 3 of Bron/Kyrie/Love averaged more PPG than KD/Steph/Klay.

My question is why is this not a factor when people continuously bring up is "dominance" through the east the past 6-7 years. The talent disparity between whatever team he was on & the second best team in the east is far wider then Cavs/Warriors, yet somehow his fans or the media never wanna deduct points for that. He's already better than any player in the east then to add on the second/third best players in the conference are on his team.

KD played Bron in his second finals & hung 30+ on his head. he's gonna do it again this year, and somehow people are gonna say he's not the better player, despite him being just as good offensively & at this point a much better defender.
 
If he averaged 1 less assist....He couldn’t be on his Cry-rese.

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Or when they down huge and they aint going to catch up and instead of taking threes, hes dunking and doing layups. Told you , box scores and finals losses all Bron fans have.
 
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How can you say KD had a way bigger impact on his team than Bron did on his when it’s arguable KD didn’t have the most impact on his team?
Moving what goalposts? lol
 
My question is why is this not a factor when people continuously bring up is "dominance" through the east the past 6-7 years. The talent disparity between whatever team he was on & the second best team in the east is far wider then Cavs/Warriors, yet somehow his fans or the media never wanna deduct points for that. He's already better than any player in the east then to add on the second/third best players in the conference are on his team.

KD played Bron in his second finals & hung 30+ on his head. he's gonna do it again this year, and somehow people are gonna say he's not the better player, despite him being just as good offensively & at this point a much better defender.

Gospel....

Take em to church!

 
Bron was def stat padding in game 5.
Don’t remember him doing it in any other games.
Even if you completely throw out game 5 where you could say he stat padded, he still averaged 32/12/11 on 54% shooting from the field in Games 1-4.
 
Steph, Klay and Draymond put up 54.2 ppg

Kryie, Love, JR put up 57.2 ppg

Yet Bron had more responsibility than KD even though Bron was only playing on one side of the floor...

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Yea if Bron was bout bout it he would of put the straps on KD

Shiiiii I know MJ would
Bron just doesn't have that killer instinct |l|l
 
Even if you completely throw out game 5 where you could say he stat padded, he still averaged 32/12/11 on 54% shooting from the field in Games 1-4.
more box scores without context.
Whole plan was to let bron do as he pleases. Where his second half stats. Still no mention of his d either.
 
Steph, Klay and Draymond put up 54.2 ppg

Kryie, Love, JR put up 57.2 ppg

Yet Bron had more responsibility than KD even though Bron was only playing on one side of the floor...

:emoji_thinking::emoji_thinking::emoji_thinking:

And this is factual but really players 4-15 were better than what the Cavs had 4-15.

But that’s what Lebron wanted.
 
I vividly remember a certain poster saying the Cavs acquiring Korver was equal to GSW getting KD :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
My question is why is this not a factor when people continuously bring up is "dominance" through the east the past 6-7 years. The talent disparity between whatever team he was on & the second best team in the east is far wider then Cavs/Warriors, yet somehow his fans or the media never wanna deduct points for that. He's already better than any player in the east then to add on the second/third best players in the conference are on his team.

KD played Bron in his second finals & hung 30+ on his head. he's gonna do it again this year, and somehow people are gonna say he's not the better player, despite him being just as good offensively & at this point a much better defender.
Regarding the first paragraph, I agree, and all of that can easily be said for Jordan and the Bulls too. Best player in the East and then had the 2nd best player in Scottie. Nobody should be arguing this.

Is Bron also not hanging 30+ on KD's head despite KD's elite defense? Is KD shouldering the responsibility of being the primary playmaker for the rest of the offense like LeBron is?
 
Still not understanding how the stats are hollow when most of the games were close until he ran out of gas?
 
Regarding the first paragraph, I agree, and all of that can easily be said for Jordan and the Bulls too. Best player in the East and then had the 2nd best player in Scottie. Nobody should be arguing this.

Is Bron also not hanging 30+ on KD's head despite KD's elite defense? Is KD shouldering the responsibility of being the primary playmaker for the rest of the offense like LeBron is?

What waa Bron shooting to get those points vs KD compared to the other way around when they were guarding each other?
 
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