OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

bostoiah · Mar 21, 2018

100027 said:
Ray Allen is and always has been the man, I don't give a damn what the haters say. And PP, Rondo, and KG need to “Get off his ****”, because they ain't winning **** without Ray.

Throwback:

Damn bruh what they do to you.

In all honesty tho it sounds like Rondo is at fault here for not even attempting to reconcile their relationship and also bumping heads with everybody. Obviously this is only one side of the story but it seems realistic since we know how his tenure with the Mavs ended

100027 · Mar 21, 2018

bostoiah said:
Damn bruh what they do to you.

In all honesty tho it sounds like Rondo is at fault here for not even attempting to reconcile their relationship and also bumping heads with everybody. Obviously this is only one side of the story but it seems realistic since we know how his tenure with the Mavs ended

Just knowing Rondo it makes sense. And the guy was one of my favorite players in the league at one point but his personality has done him no favors.

air jsarg · Mar 21, 2018

Retroballer said:
Or Harden should be MVP in both seasons. Love when people move the goal posts for everyone but Harden. Lol
Love the blazers talking spicy then laying a big goose egg in the backcourt.

Harden has been incredible this year and IS the MVP in my personal record book for last year and this year, but I can't help wondering how LeBron doesn't get the recognition for carrying a team that lost it's 2nd best player, went through a huge trade turnover and is still managing a top 5 seed and playing some of the best basketball in his everlasting career. This is almost the same reason Anthony Davis started being brought up into the conversation.

LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs · Mar 21, 2018

Cant lie harden was hitting some clutch shots last night

100027 · Mar 21, 2018

air jsarg said:
Harden has been incredible this year and IS the MVP in my personal record book for last year and this year, but I can't help wondering how LeBron doesn't get the recognition for carrying a team that lost it's 2nd best player, went through a huge trade turnover and is still managing a top 5 seed and playing some of the best basketball in his everlasting career. This is almost the same reason Anthony Davis started being brought up into the conversation.

Because a top 5 seed in the East isn't impressive. He was in MVP discussion when they were in top 2. The Cavs season has been disappointing.

jsindaa · Mar 21, 2018

second2nonee said:
put em in rice

Imagine thinking this is boring.

shotsrangout · Mar 21, 2018

100027 said:
“He never took a game off. A possession off,” he wrote. “I can’t say that of anyone else I played with, and I played with some of the best.”

Ray never watched KG's Nets career I guess.

Dont do that. He was 40 playing on a ****** team

Scarborough · Mar 21, 2018

bron is responsible for that record because of his trash defence.
hes been crazy offensively(i have him on my fantasy team) defensively tho hes trash bag

air jsarg · Mar 21, 2018

100027 said:
Because a top 5 seed in the East isn't impressive. He was in MVP discussion when they were in top 2. The Cavs season has been disappointing.

Definitely disappointing for the Cavs when measuring it against themselves, but not within the scope of the entire league. How can Cavs fans be disappointed? You lost the 2nd best player/top 10 player in the league and again gone through a complete team overhaul mid-season, but are still in solid playoff position and still being considered favourites for another finals appearance.

Scarborough said:
bron is responsible for that record because of his trash defence.
hes been crazy offensively(i have him on my fantasy team) defensively tho hes trash bag

Didn't know Harden was in consideration for DPOY....... oh wait

100027 · Mar 21, 2018

air jsarg said:
Definitely disappointing for the Cavs when measuring it against themselves, but not within the scope of the entire league. How can Cavs fans be disappointed? You lost the 2nd best player/top 10 player in the league and agian gone through a complete team overhaul mid-season, but are still in solid playoff position and still being considered favourites for another finals appearance.

Kevin Love isn't a top 10 player.
The team overhaul only took place because they were already so disappointing.
They were expected to be significantly better coming into the season even after trading Kyrie.

You are doing a lot of goal post moving to create an "overachieving" narrative for LeBron. "They were supposed to be really good but they aren't that good therefore they are doing better than expected because they still aren't that good but aren't that bad either."

wavycrocket · Mar 21, 2018

If the Cavs finish with a top 4 seed in the East....Bron deserves the MVP. Nobody has had to deal with as much turmoil and roster change as Bron this year. And he’s 33 jeers old in his 15th season carrying family men without an all star by his side. Harden has Cp3 and Dantoni. Bron has nobody and he doesn’t even have a coach. Nobody has had to go through that.

100027 · Mar 21, 2018

wavycrocket said:
If the Cavs finish with a top 4 seed in the East....Bron deserves the MVP. Nobody has had to deal with as much turmoil and roster change as Bron this year. And he’s 33 jeers old in his 15th season carrying family men without an all star by his side. Harden has Cp3 and Dantoni. Bron has nobody and he doesn’t even have a coach. Nobody has had to go through that.

Bron is the reason Kyrie asked for a trade and J.R. and Tristan got those contracts...

A top 4 seed in the East means absolutely nothing, it's all one glob from 4-8.

wavycrocket · Mar 21, 2018

100027 said:
Bron is the reason Kyrie asked for a trade and J.R. and Tristan got those contracts...

A top 4 seed in the East means absolutely nothing, it's all one glob from 4-8.

air jsarg · Mar 21, 2018

100027 said:
Kevin Love isn't a top 10 player.
The team overhaul only took place because they were already so disappointing.
They were expected to be significantly better coming into the season even after trading Kyrie.

You are doing a lot of goal post moving to create an "overachieving" narrative for LeBron. "They were supposed to be really good but they aren't that good therefore they are doing better than expected because they still aren't that good but aren't that bad either."

I'm referring to Kyrie, and I've already said that Harden is the MVP this year, but like most people do almost every single year when talking about the award LeBron is always brought up and given a reasonable case as to why he should win it every year but then gets shot down because it would be "voters fatigue" or "but we can't just give it to LeBron every year". Why say those things at all if we know who the true MVP is?

addict4sneakers · Mar 21, 2018

Myrie not a top 10 player either

air jsarg · Mar 21, 2018

addict4sneakers said:
Myrie not a top 10 player either

didn't know NT felt this way, i'm out of touch

VARNELL HILL · Mar 21, 2018

James Harden has that award sewn up. If ya'll wanna argue about who the runner up will be...I'm sure there are some compelling arguments to be made for a couple of guys.

100027 · Mar 21, 2018

air jsarg said:
I'm referring to Kyrie, and I've already said that Harden is the MVP this year, but like most people do almost every single year when talking about the award LeBron is always brought up and given a reasonable case as to why he should win it every year but then gets shot down because it would be "voters fatigue" or "but we can't just give it to LeBron every year". Why say those things at all if we know who the true MVP is?

I mean yeah LeBron is always "in the discussion" and deserves to be... He is the best player. But I don't think he has much of a case this year.

hardens beard · Mar 21, 2018

ABH

LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs · Mar 21, 2018

Cavs and warriors cursed with injuries. Rockets vs raptors 2018 nba finals

jsindaa · Mar 21, 2018

air jsarg said:
LeBron should be MVP this year

This is where I stopped reading

wavycrocket · Mar 21, 2018

hardens beard said:
ABH

Y’all would riot (deservedly so) if that happened this year :lol:

.

I’m always down for chaos.

Peep Game · Mar 21, 2018

hardens beard said:
ABH

“15 years in the league” “his second best player his Jordan Clarkson” “look at the weight on Lebron’s shoulders” “Lue’s in the hospital”

hardens beard · Mar 21, 2018

wavycrocket said:
Y’all would riot (deservedly so) if that happened this year .

I’m always down for chaos.

For selfish reasons I would like to see how good he would come back if he didn’t win.

Every year he felt he was snubbed he came back a better player.

air jsarg · Mar 21, 2018

100027 said:
I mean yeah LeBron is always "in the discussion" and deserves to be... He is the best player. But I don't think he has much of a case this year.

If we go off the entire season on a numbers perspective, the numbers say otherwise as Harden is only scoring 4 more points per game while also having 4 more FT attempts per game than LeBron. Both he and Harden are almost identical in 3PT% and its and even further gap in favour of LeBron for overall FG%. LeBron has played more minutes and a few more games, better in rebounding and right there in assists and thats with Harden having only a slightly higher usage rate.