OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

[HIM]

Can someone explain to me why Westbrook isn't the MVP? He's basically averaging a triple double for the entire season.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Underrated playoff performance against the raptors last year

 

[air jsarg]

I don’t think you watched those games. No way you would’ve cited these stats if you did.

These are just the raw stats, so I guess at this point i'm just saying, head to head theres no solid argument for who's better statistically. So the next thing on the checklist is team success and that doesn't evens tart to compare when evaluating the talent from top to bottom of both rosters.

 

[jc619er]

Is he putting fear in guys yet?

This right here. Regular season is not the post season. Just ask Ginobli how scared he was of Harden last playoffs.

 

[100027]

These are just the raw stats, so I guess at this point i'm just saying, head to head theres no solid argument for who's better statistically. So the next thing on the checklist is team success and that doesn't evens tart to compare when evaluating the talent from top to bottom of both rosters.

The way you put it team success might as well be irrelevant then, because the only reason the Cavs talent has looked so bad all season is because they are playing so bad. You're creating a Catch 22 situation where LeBron always has an excuse.

And again i think MVP voters recognize the fact that LeBron is more responsible for the current talent level of the team than probably anyone else.

 

[hardens beard]

These are just the raw stats, so I guess at this point i'm just saying, head to head theres no solid argument for who's better statistically. So the next thing on the checklist is team success and that doesn't evens tart to compare when evaluating the talent from top to bottom of both rosters.

Harden clearly outplayed Lebron in the 1st game and that was without CP3.

The second game garbage time started halfway thru the 1st quarter. The Rockets were up as much as 40 at one point in the game.

 

[Quincy McCall]

These are just the raw stats, so I guess at this point i'm just saying, head to head theres no solid argument for who's better statistically. So the next thing on the checklist is team success and that doesn't evens tart to compare when evaluating the talent from top to bottom of both rosters.

So Bron having less help in a lesser conference means MVP

 

[storm2006]

The Nate slander in here last night was great

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Any Rockets fans picked them to win the ring yet?

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Any Rockets fans picked them to win the ring yet?

Pussyfoot boys

 

[air jsarg]

So Bron having less help in a lesser conference means MVP

Not at all because if that were the case, I'd be saying Anthony Davis hands down.

 

[air jsarg]

The way you put it team success might as well be irrelevant then, because the only reason the Cavs talent has looked so bad all season is because they are playing so bad. You're creating a Catch 22 situation where LeBron always has an excuse.

And again i think MVP voters recognize the fact that LeBron is more responsible for the current talent level of the team than probably anyone else.

Ok so all i'm trying to get out of you at this point is what do we truly regard as the MVP. Is it best statistics, team success, 4th quarter clutch-ness and so on or do we just throw as many arbitrary categories at the wall until we just throw our hands up and throw a dart at the top 5 candidates and call it a day.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

If rocket fans believe they will lose against the warriors that would mean the rockets arent the best team. So that best team best player argument is meaningless

 

[Quincy McCall]

Not at all because if that were the case, I'd be saying Anthony Davis hands down.

So... Umm.. Why? Similar but worse stats, less success?

Cause he traded his whole roster? That's somehow impressive

 

[air jsarg]

So... Umm.. Why? Similar but worse stats, less success?

Cause he traded his whole roster? That's somehow impressive

Are you bleeping kidding me? Trading half the team and not falling off a cliff in terms of team success is certainly impressive, you only need the bare minimum of knowledge about elite team sports to understand that.

 

[JustBlaze.]

The Nate slander in here last night was great

He was so ******* bad.

 

[Quincy McCall]

Are you bleeping kidding me? Trading half the team and not falling off a cliff in terms of team success is certainly impressive, you only need the bare minimum of knowledge about elite team sports to understand that.

He traded a haul of terrible/mediocre players for their equivalent or better, How many teams behind the Cavs should be ahead of them right now?

 

[Based Jesus]

you only need the bare minimum of knowledge

You shouldnt set yourself up like this. Not in this thread.

 

[air jsarg]

He traded a haul of terrible/mediocre players for their equivalent or better, How many teams behind the Cavs should be ahead of them right now?

So by your logic how come the any of the bottom feeder teams of the East or West haven't made any roster overhauls at any point this year? or do they have really good players and just suck for no reason?

 

[air jsarg]

You shouldnt set yourself up like this. Not in this thread.

I'm here for it.

 

[BIG FISH]

I laugh at the people that still say the East is weaker than the West because 90% of the time it’s only just to throw shots at LeBron

 

[Quincy McCall]

So by your logic how come the any of the bottom feeder teams of the East or West haven't made any roster overhauls at any point this year? or do they have really good players and just suck for no reason?

The hell are you talking about, you're making an MVP case for a player with lesser stats and success but want to include bottom feeder teams in the discussion for whatever reason?

What does other teams needing an overhaul have to do with Lebron somehow overachieving? And deer god, if you can answer it, where should the Cavs be right now and how many of the teams behind them should be afront?

 

[617collector]

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Ray Allen is and always has been the man, I don't give a damn what the haters say. And PP, Rondo, and KG need to “Get off his ****”, because they ain't winning **** without Ray.

QFT!!!

 

[Quincy McCall]

I laugh at the people that still say the East is weaker than the West because 90% of the time it’s only just to throw shots at LeBron

It's not that much weaker but c'mon, and historically... C'mon