OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

If we go off the entire season on a numbers perspective, the numbers say otherwise as Harden is only scoring 4 more points per game while also having 4 more FT attempts per game than LeBron. Both he and Harden are almost identical in 3PT% and its and even further gap in favour of LeBron for overall FG%. LeBron has played more minutes and a few more games, better in rebounding and right there in assists and thats with Harden having only a slightly higher usage rate.

Chill your making too much sense

 

[Quincy McCall]

Almost as bad as the excuses given for Westbrook last year, although I could live with a Bron MVP if his fate in the first round's to be the same

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Almost as bad as the excuses given for Westbrook last year, although I could live with a Bron MVP if his fate in the first round's to be the same

His first first round exit of his career?

 

[air jsarg]

His first first round exit of his career?

Joining a group of maybe 5 guys that have won MVP and lost in the first round, not the greatest look when being awarded best player in the league that year

 

[617collector]

 

[100027]

If we go off the entire season on a numbers perspective, the numbers say otherwise as Harden is only scoring 4 more points per game while also having 4 more FT attempts per game than LeBron. Both he and Harden are almost identical in 3PT% and its and even further gap in favour of LeBron for overall FG%. LeBron has played more minutes and a few more games, better in rebounding and right there in assists and thats with Harden having only a slightly higher usage rate.

So LeBron has similar but slightly worse stats and his team has underperformed while Harden's is #1 in the league.

your point is....

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Rockets were better than the thunder last year. Its not always best player on the best team.

 

[Cashflow]

Can’t be the MVP crying for more help every week

 

[100027]

Rockets were better than the thunder last year. Its not always best player on the best team.

You honestly believe LeBron should be MVP this year? You are that much of a homer?

 

[shotsrangout]

People actually think LeBron isn't going to make the nba finals? Yikes

 

[air jsarg]

So LeBron has similar but slightly worse stats and his team has underperformed while Harden's is #1 in the league.

your point is....

What is your point? you seem to know alot more about what it means to be MVP, but you haven't actually said much.

 

[hardens beard]

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

You honestly believe LeBron should be MVP this year? You are that much of a homer?

Poking holes in your argument. I said weeks ago its hardens to lose.

 

[100027]

What is your point? you seem to know alot more about what it means to be MVP, but you haven't actually said much.

My point is LeBron isn't MVP because he has worse stats than the MVP while playing on a worse team that is also underachieving whereas the actual MVP is playing better on the best team in the league?

Seems pretty simple to me.

Poking holes in your argument. I said weeks ago its hardens to lose.

"poking holes" = can't resist stanning opportunities even when wrong

 

[bballkid11]

People actually think LeBron isn't going to make the nba finals? Yikes

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

"poking holes" = can't resist stanning opportunities even when wrong

Cant say the best player on the #1 team automatically wins MVP. Westbrook won MVP on a .500 team almost a year ago

 

[617collector]

People actually think LeBron isn't going to make the nba finals? Yikes

Could be interesting if it's Cavs vs Wizards 1st and Cavs vs Toronto 2nd

 

[smedroc]

Harden should be unanimous imo. It's not like he's putting up Steve Nash numbers.

31/8/5, 60 point triple double, a handful of clutch moments in the 4th, best record in the league.

Given the other 'contenders' level of play or team records anybody else is a reach.

 

[air jsarg]

My point is LeBron isn't MVP because he has worse stats than the MVP while playing on a worse team that is also underachieving whereas the actual MVP is playing better on the best team in the league?

Seems pretty simple to me.

They are almost on the same level statistically with the differences being minor for the sake of the stats arguement. And yes Harden has the better team as a by-product of more talent, and like LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs has pointed out, just because you've got the best record doesn't make you the MVP, hence why medai love to use "narrative" as a factor when voting.

 

[bballkid11]

Could be interesting if it's Cavs vs Wizards 1st and Cavs vs Toronto 2nd

Agree
But I totally expect Cavs to find a way last couple games to draw the Pacers

 

[air jsarg]

Harden should be unanimous imo. It's not like he's putting up Steve Nash numbers.

31/8/5, 60 point triple double, a handful of clutch moments in the 4th, best record in the league.

Given the other 'contenders' level of play or team records anybody else is a reach.

Not a huge stats guy, but once again here's the 4th quarter match-up between the 2 for the season so far, and i've already posted that their statically similar for the season overall.

 

[ballinsam23]

caught the replay....man Harden is impossible to guard

 

[geno90221]

caught the replay....man Harden is impossible to guard

He truly is

 

[addict4sneakers]

caught the replay....man Harden is impossible to guard

Is he putting fear in guys yet?

 

[hardens beard]

Not a huge stats guy, but once again here's the 4th quarter match-up between the 2 for the season so far, and i've already posted that their statically similar for the season overall.

I don’t think you watched those games. No way you would’ve cited these stats if you did.