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Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm not really serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there is DEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.
You really are an idiot, huh?
Nah, are you? This guy is a genius. I believe he came here with the idea that he wants to build the Yankees of basketball.
By giving players money under the table?

Yupp, thatll do it.
 
Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm not really serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there is DEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.
You really are an idiot, huh?
Nah, are you? This guy is a genius. I believe he came here with the idea that he wants to build the Yankees of basketball.
Kevin McHale and Joe Smith give this idea a thumbs up.
 
Originally Posted by Buc Em

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm notreally serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there isDEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.


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Originally Posted by raptors29

Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams

Originally Posted by biggieeb0y

Cousins with a 27.5 vert?
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Dude is extremely long so that will help.
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I really hope his vert improves after he gets into NBA basketball shape... Dude losing to Cole Aldrich right now...
Nothing he's doing in the next few months is gonna significantly increase his vert. 
Good thing the new season starts end of October. What I'm trying to say is: dude needs to lose some weight...
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You guys are idiots if you don't think Nets new owner wouldn't try to give Lebron, Bosh or Wade 50-60 Mill outta his own pocket even if its not allowed. The dude is straight LOADED & will do anything to get the Nets into a championship-caliber team.
 
Originally Posted by RoOk

You guys are idiots if you don't think Nets new owner wouldn't try to give Lebron, Bosh or Wade 50-60 Mill outta his own pocket even if its not allowed. The dude is straight LOADED & will do anything to get the Nets into a championship-caliber team.

Thanks for being the only logical person on here. This dude wants to be the Russian Steinbrenner.
 
Originally Posted by RoOk

You guys are idiots if you don't think Nets new owner wouldn't try to give Lebron, Bosh or Wade 50-60 Mill outta his own pocket even if its not allowed. The dude is straight LOADED & will do anything to get the Nets into a championship-caliber team.
Do you all understand how stupid you sound?  I mean, really?  As shady as Mikhail Prokhorov's rise to fame and fortune was in Russia, that !@!! isn't going to fly in the NBA.  There are 29 other teams who will be watching his every move with a close eye waiting for the moment that he slips up.  There are whistle-blowers on every team from the players to the front office.  When your livelihood is tied into the (American) business dealings of Prokhorov, you best believe he's going to be on his best behavior.  I dunno why you think he's going to be coming into the NBA on some Al Capone !@!!.  The Nets have a ton of cap-space and Prokhorov will be playing by the rules...believe that.  And as a new owner, he's not going to ruffle any feathers by doing things "under the table."  The T-Wolves tried to be sneaky back in the day, and they were HARSHLY penalized.  EVERYONE took notice. 
 
Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm not really serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there is DEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.
Why cause he's foreign?  You sound like a $@!+%+$ idiot.  And after the Evan Turner thread earlier this year and saying the Nets are a playoff team you've all but backed up your stupidity, fam.
 
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by RoOk

You guys are idiots if you don't think Nets new owner wouldn't try to give Lebron, Bosh or Wade 50-60 Mill outta his own pocket even if its not allowed. The dude is straight LOADED & will do anything to get the Nets into a championship-caliber team.
Do you all understand how stupid you sound?  I mean, really?  As shady as Mikhail Prokhorov's rise to fame and fortune was in Russia, that !@!! isn't going to fly in the NBA.  There are 29 other teams who will be watching his every move with a close eye waiting for the moment that he slips up.  There are whistle-blowers on every team from the players to the front office.  When your livelihood is tied into the (American) business dealings of Prokhorov, you best believe he's going to be on his best behavior.  I dunno why you think he's going to be coming into the NBA on some Al Capone !@!!.  The Nets have a ton of cap-space and Prokhorov will be playing by the rules...believe that.  And as a new owner, he's not going to ruffle any feathers by doing things "under the table."  The T-Wolves tried to be sneaky back in the day, and they were HARSHLY penalized.  EVERYONE took notice. 

^ Exactly.

It took a long %#$ time for the NBA to approve him buying the Nets, because they went through a massive months long background check to make sure the skeletons in his closet wouldn't pop up and stain the NBA. Stern is firmly up his %#$. These aren't chump change millionaires, they're wealthy men who don't give a damn how much money Prokhorov has, if he tries to get around the rules on their product.
 
And another thing...as image-conscious as Lebron is in promoting his GLOBAL brand, do you honestly think he'd allow himself to be tied up into anything that remotely resembles money-laundering????

And after the Evan Turner thread earlier this year and saying the Nets are a playoff team you've all but backed up your stupidity, fam.


Just went back and read that ET thread....dude formulated a negative opinion of the dude without having watching him play
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....now he's on the bandwagon
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One of the mods at RealGM put this together....

Name            Height    Wt.    Wngspn    Reach     Fat           
Chris Paul      5' 11.7   178    6' 4.25   7' 9"     -             
Darren Collis   6' 0.25   166    6' 3"     8' 0.5"   5.7           
Deron William   6' 1.75   202    6' 6.25   8' 2"     -             
Derrick Rose    6' 1.5"   196    6' 8"     8' 2.5"   4.6           
Dwyane Wade     6' 3.75   212    6' 10.7   8' 6"     6.7           
George Hill     6' 1.25   181    6' 9"     8' 1.5"   3             
Gilbert Arean   6' 2.25   199    6' 9.5"   8' 3.5"   -             
Jameer Nelson   5' 10.2   193    6' 2"     7' 9.5"   6.7           
Jameer Nelson   5' 11"    199    6' 2.5"   7' 11"    -             
John Wall       6' 2.75   196    6' 9.25   8' 5.5"   5.6           
Jonny Flynn     5' 11.2   196    6' 4"     7' 11.5   6.3           
O.J. Mayo       6' 3.25   200    6' 6"     8' 3.5"   6.3           
Russell Westb   6' 2.25   192    6' 7.75   8' 4"     4.8           
Stephen Curry   6' 2"     181    6' 3.5"   8' 1"     5.7           
Tyreke Evans    6' 4"     221    6' 11.2   8' 8"     7.1   


Name            NS Ver   Max Vr   Bench   Agility   Sprint         
Chris Paul      32       38       10      11.09     3.22           
Darren Collis   30.5     33.5     9       10.45     3.1             
Deron William   30       35       15      10.83     3.25           
Derrick Rose    34.5     40       10      11.69     3.05           
Dwyane Wade     31.5     35       9       10.56     3.08           
George Hill     34       37.5     9       12.2      3.07           
Gilbert Arean   31.5     36       12      -         3.25           
Jameer Nelson   30       35.5     9       10.66     3.16           
Jameer Nelson   28.5     33.5     15      10.95     3.14           
John Wall       30       39               10.84     3.14           
Jonny Flynn     33       40       10      10.86     3.23           
O.J. Mayo       30.5     41       7       11.04     3.14           
Russell Westb   30       36.5     12      10.98     3.08           
Stephen Curry   29.5     35.5     10      11.07     3.28           
Tyreke Evans    28.5     34       7       11.81     3.17   
 
Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm not really serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there is DEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.
Why cause he's foreign?  You sound like a $@!+%+$ idiot.  And after the Evan Turner thread earlier this year and saying the Nets are a playoff team you've all but backed up your stupidity, fam.
How the %@!# does that have anything to do with him being foreign? Are the dudes that sneak top prospects money and free stuff when their in high school and college foreign? No. You guys are acting like this is some out of this world *#$# that nobody else has thought about except me and Ro0k. Just because the T-Wolves got caught up before doesn't mean that this dude will too. You think Stern got him bugged everywhere he goes? He can just throw Lebron or Wade money and all they have to do is not tell anyone. You don't think there's anything shady going on with this whole summer? You think none of the free agents have a damn clue where they're going? And what's keeping us on our toes is WE don't have a damn clue other than Lebron wearing New York stuff, D-Wade being from Chicago and supposebly William Wesley doing some behind the scenes work with Calipari (and we don't even know what teams he's talked to about that). These are grown men were talking about, they aren't gonna come out and stunt and brag about it to everyone. And damn I must have really hurt you guys feelings by starting a thread saying "Evan Turner = overrated?" You notice that question mark right there, right? Right? That means I was asking for YOUR opinion. Go back and read what I said in that thread. Did I say he was hot trash? No. I also said I didn't watch too much of him compared to the large amount I watched John Wall play. I never said I straight up never saw a damn game of him. You can't have a first opinion anymore? I'm sure when Kwame and Eddy Curry got drafted there was a bunch of "Curry is a beast 
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", "Rip, MJ and Kwame 
sick.gif
pimp.gif
" And yep, I did say I think the Nets will be a playoff team within the next two years. Quote me on it. And save that *#$#. I don't even know how you do that *#$# because I don't sit here all day analyzing what other screen names on here say. Now get off my @%!@ since I just sat here and wrote all this *#$# for a few dudes I'll never meet in my life.  
 
Favors over turner doesnt make sense with the #2 pick, Iggy has proved this season that he's not a 2 guard and thad can't play 3 full time. Why not get a legit 2 to put next to dre? I would rather lock up my backcourt for the next decade and worry about getting a bruiser big man later in draft or offseason, brand & speights are already playing at the 4, Favors is obvously no center. either try to trade thad to get back in the late lottery or pick up a Bj mullens or Aaron Gray. Granted GTech had horrible guard play this season, im still not sold on favors over turner...turner did everything for his team this season, & last season he still put up great numbers playing off the ball.
 
Originally Posted by Buc Em

How the %@!# does that have anything to do with him being foreign? Are the dudes that sneak top prospects money and free stuff when their in high school and college foreign? No. You guys are acting like this is some out of this world *#$# that nobody else has thought about except me and Ro0k. Just because the T-Wolves got caught up before doesn't mean that this dude will too. You think Stern got him bugged everywhere he goes? He can just throw Lebron or Wade money and all they have to do is not tell anyone. You don't think there's anything shady going on with this whole summer? You think none of the free agents have a damn clue where they're going? And what's keeping us on our toes is WE don't have a damn clue other than Lebron wearing New York stuff, D-Wade being from Chicago and supposebly William Wesley doing some behind the scenes work with Calipari (and we don't even know what teams he's talked to about that). These are grown men were talking about, they aren't gonna come out and stunt and brag about it to everyone. And damn I must have really hurt you guys feelings by starting a thread saying "Evan Turner = overrated?" You notice that question mark right there, right? Right? That means I was asking for YOUR opinion. Go back and read what I said in that thread. Did I say he was hot trash? No. I also said I didn't watch too much of him compared to the large amount I watched John Wall play. I never said I straight up never saw a damn game of him. You can't have a first opinion anymore? I'm sure when Kwame and Eddy Curry got drafted there was a bunch of "Curry is a beast 
pimp.gif
pimp.gif
", "Rip, MJ and Kwame 
sick.gif
pimp.gif
" And yep, I did say I think the Nets will be a playoff team within the next two years. Quote me on it. And save that *#$#. I don't even know how you do that *#$# because I don't sit here all day analyzing what other screen names on here say. Now get off my @%!@ since I just sat here and wrote all this *#$# for a few dudes I'll never meet in my life.  
Tell 'em how you feel buc!!!!!!!!!!

*Plays Pastor Troy*

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Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by Ricardo Malta

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm not really serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there is DEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.
Why cause he's foreign?  You sound like a $@!+%+$ idiot.  And after the Evan Turner thread earlier this year and saying the Nets are a playoff team you've all but backed up your stupidity, fam.
How the %@!# does that have anything to do with him being foreign? Are the dudes that sneak top prospects money and free stuff when their in high school and college foreign? No. You guys are acting like this is some out of this world *#$# that nobody else has thought about except me and Ro0k. Just because the T-Wolves got caught up before doesn't mean that this dude will too. You think Stern got him bugged everywhere he goes? He can just throw Lebron or Wade money and all they have to do is not tell anyone. You don't think there's anything shady going on with this whole summer? You think none of the free agents have a damn clue where they're going? And what's keeping us on our toes is WE don't have a damn clue other than Lebron wearing New York stuff, D-Wade being from Chicago and supposebly William Wesley doing some behind the scenes work with Calipari (and we don't even know what teams he's talked to about that). These are grown men were talking about, they aren't gonna come out and stunt and brag about it to everyone. And damn I must have really hurt you guys feelings by starting a thread saying "Evan Turner = overrated?" You notice that question mark right there, right? Right? That means I was asking for YOUR opinion. Go back and read what I said in that thread. Did I say he was hot trash? No. I also said I didn't watch too much of him compared to the large amount I watched John Wall play. I never said I straight up never saw a damn game of him. You can't have a first opinion anymore? I'm sure when Kwame and Eddy Curry got drafted there was a bunch of "Curry is a beast 
pimp.gif
pimp.gif
", "Rip, MJ and Kwame 
sick.gif
pimp.gif
" And yep, I did say I think the Nets will be a playoff team within the next two years. Quote me on it. And save that *#$#. I don't even know how you do that *#$# because I don't sit here all day analyzing what other screen names on here say. Now get off my @%!@ since I just sat here and wrote all this *#$# for a few dudes I'll never meet in my life.  
It would only make sense that you and Rook would be the only ones to agree.
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Birds of a feather...
 
Originally Posted by dreClark

Originally Posted by Buc Em

How the %@!# does that have anything to do with him being foreign? Are the dudes that sneak top prospects money and free stuff when their in high school and college foreign? No. You guys are acting like this is some out of this world *#$# that nobody else has thought about except me and Ro0k. Just because the T-Wolves got caught up before doesn't mean that this dude will too. You think Stern got him bugged everywhere he goes? He can just throw Lebron or Wade money and all they have to do is not tell anyone. You don't think there's anything shady going on with this whole summer? You think none of the free agents have a damn clue where they're going? And what's keeping us on our toes is WE don't have a damn clue other than Lebron wearing New York stuff, D-Wade being from Chicago and supposebly William Wesley doing some behind the scenes work with Calipari (and we don't even know what teams he's talked to about that). These are grown men were talking about, they aren't gonna come out and stunt and brag about it to everyone. And damn I must have really hurt you guys feelings by starting a thread saying "Evan Turner = overrated?" You notice that question mark right there, right? Right? That means I was asking for YOUR opinion. Go back and read what I said in that thread. Did I say he was hot trash? No. I also said I didn't watch too much of him compared to the large amount I watched John Wall play. I never said I straight up never saw a damn game of him. You can't have a first opinion anymore? I'm sure when Kwame and Eddy Curry got drafted there was a bunch of "Curry is a beast 
pimp.gif
pimp.gif
", "Rip, MJ and Kwame 
sick.gif
pimp.gif
" And yep, I did say I think the Nets will be a playoff team within the next two years. Quote me on it. And save that *#$#. I don't even know how you do that *#$# because I don't sit here all day analyzing what other screen names on here say. Now get off my @%!@ since I just sat here and wrote all this *#$# for a few dudes I'll never meet in my life.  
Tell 'em how you feel buc!!!!!!!!!!

*Plays Pastor Troy*

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Boy, stop. 

Even on the first page of that ET thread, you come off looking foolish.  You're making guarantees of how a dude is going to perform when you said you haven't watched him play all that much.  Don't even try to backpeddle....its easy tell you just look at stats (hency your comment about looking at his freshman year #'s) and try to come up with an argument....u are about as transparent as that marques houston suit.  C'mon now. 

i also can guarantee this dude will NOT look too good in the combine or workouts they'll have him go through since most of his points come off just being bigger than the person that's guarding him.


damn i take it back i was looking at his freshman stats 
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and evan turner doesn't have the handles, vision, athleticism or jumper of stephenson. the two things he does have over him though are maturity and control



i don't think this dude sucks or anything i just don't think he's top 3 pick and player of the year material when you look at the players that were in those spots in the past few years.


That's some of your comedic gold from the first 2 pages of that thread......
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36237
Dominique Jones, Jr., G, South Florida: The common comment at the Chicago pre-draft camp was that Jones knew how to score big-time against Big East opponents.

So, too, did Luke Harangodyof Notre Dame. But there are shortcomings with Harangody that teamswill have to get over (athleticism, defensive liability, not long).With Jones, though, the upside is high with his body of work and hisphysical presence, earning him plenty of praise.

"Anyonegood enough to get in the lane will play,'' said one general manager."His jumper needs a lot of work, but what he can do against second-unitguys in the NBA is score. He can help teams that need a scorer off thebench. He really defends and is a better passer than people think. Hisinterview was off-the-charts good.''

Jones averaged 21.4 points a game for the Bulls in the Big East.

There will be other three-to four-year players who didn't get much hype and will turn out to be solid additions, such as VCU's Larry Sanders. But what this proves, yet again, is that the formula to make the league isn't always about the one-and-done.


could be a steal. Played well in a team concept even as 'the man'. Strong as all hell going to the basket and defends.

Like him more than Willie Warren or Lance for the 2 guards in that range.
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36237
Dominique Jones, Jr., G, South Florida: The common comment at the Chicago pre-draft camp was that Jones knew how to score big-time against Big East opponents.

So, too, did Luke Harangody of Notre Dame. But there are shortcomings with Harangody that teams will have to get over (athleticism, defensive liability, not long). With Jones, though, the upside is high with his body of work and his physical presence, earning him plenty of praise.

"Anyone good enough to get in the lane will play,'' said one general manager. "His jumper needs a lot of work, but what he can do against second-unit guys in the NBA is score. He can help teams that need a scorer off the bench. He really defends and is a better passer than people think. His interview was off-the-charts good.''

Jones averaged 21.4 points a game for the Bulls in the Big East.

There will be other three-to four-year players who didn't get much hype and will turn out to be solid additions, such as VCU's Larry Sanders. But what this proves, yet again, is that the formula to make the league isn't always about the one-and-done.

could be a steal. Played well in a team concept even as 'the man'. Strong as all hell going to the basket and defends.

Like him more than Willie Warren or Lance for the 2 guards in that range.



Reminds me a little bit of Rodney Stuckey....
 
Jones is on my list of guys I want at 30 if Lance isn't there.

I want Lance & Sanders or Lance & Vanardo. If Lance is gone...I want Jones and Lawal.
 
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