Official NBA Draft Lottery/ 2010 NBA Draft Thread Vol. June 24th 7ET

[the wizard]

I want Trevor Booker with one of those 2nd round picks, the combine stats just backed it up for me.

 

[airjordan jb23]

Give me Cousins or Favors (If Turner isn't there). Im not sold on Udoh for a #3 pick...

I'd have more confidence in those 2 (Cousins & Favors).Besides, whoever we draft will end up playing behind Yi this year

 

[rook]

More & more everyday, i hope the Sixers draft Favors. Dude just seems like a perfect fit for us

 

[durden7]

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by Im Not You

LOL...I read New Jersey is giving Udoh a legit look at #3.

They should. I'd love that frontcourt of Udoh and Lopez. Udoh is NBA ready right now, and the Nets are going to be competing really soon with whatever free agent they sign.

They absolutely SHOULD NOT.

If Favors, Cousins, or Turner is available at #3, one of those guys should be taken....Udoh at #3 is a RIDICULOUS stretch. 

  

Turner won't be there, Demarcus Cousins and Brook Lopez would probably hate eachother, and Favors is NOT ready to start in the NBA right now on a playoff team. They should trade back for Udoh and get another really good player in return for the #3 pick. Whoever they do draft to be that power forward is not going to be getting too many shots, they need to be able to do the dirty work and hustle. Devin Harris, Brook Lopez and whatever free agent they sign will all be averaging around 20 points a game.

   WHAT?

 

[buc em]

Originally Posted by RoOk

More & more everyday, i hope the Sixers draft Favors. Dude just seems like a perfect fit for us

And what do we do with Brand, Speights AND Jason Smith? Hell even Thad is gonna play some 4. None of those guys is gonna bring back as much value as they should right now because Speights and Young both had off years last year under Eddie Jordan. You wanna play Favors at the 5? We draft Favors and then we STILL have nobody that can score the damn ball besides dunking it.

 

[IATT]

sixers would be better off with cousins.. although that is ideally, since i wouldn't want to put cousins on a  team unless it is a positive WINNING environment

if they can somehow unload brand's contract to minn for something and the 4th pick.. then they should do it

 

[buc em]

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by Im Not You

LOL...I read New Jersey is giving Udoh a legit look at #3.

They should. I'd love that frontcourt of Udoh and Lopez. Udoh is NBA ready right now, and the Nets are going to be competing really soon with whatever free agent they sign.

They absolutely SHOULD NOT.

If Favors, Cousins, or Turner is available at #3, one of those guys should be taken....Udoh at #3 is a RIDICULOUS stretch. 

  

Turner won't be there, Demarcus Cousins and Brook Lopez would probably hate eachother, and Favors is NOT ready to start in the NBA right now on a playoff team. They should trade back for Udoh and get another really good player in return for the #3 pick. Whoever they do draft to be that power forward is not going to be getting too many shots, they need to be able to do the dirty work and hustle. Devin Harris, Brook Lopez and whatever free agent they sign will all be averaging around 20 points a game.

   WHAT?

The New Jersey Nets will be a playoff team in the next two years. They'll be one next year if they get any of these max free agents, which I'm sure they will. Prokhorov can throw these dudes like 50 mill under the table in cash and no one would have a clue.

 

[jpzx]

Originally Posted by Buc Em

+%*% it, I'm sold on Turner. I think he's gonna be a star, and no matter who we get in a trade I'd be pissed to not see this guy on my team. I also think he's a loyal guy that would want to spend his entire career with one team.

Or maybe, just maybe, you didn't expect the Sixers to have a chance at Turner and now that they do you're supporting him?

...

ESPN.com's blogger/columnist Chris Sheridan says that Beasley will be traded to clear Cap space and that both the Wolves and Nets are 2 likely destinations. Here's what he says a Wolves/Heat trade will look like....

"Miami offers Beasley, Daequan Cook, James Jones, $3 million and a future No. 1 to Minnesota for basically nothing. The Heat thereby clear all their contracts and get their payroll down to zero (besides Wade), and the Wolves get the No. 2 pick of the '08 draft and a future No. 1."

 

[im not you]

Honestly...the Sixers need to unload Dalembert/Brand before they even think about taking Cousins/Favors. I don't really like the Turner pick either for them with Iggy there, but he's a safer pick than anyone else right now.

 

[rook]

looks like the heat goin ALL out for this summer man smh.

Beasley still a very young guy & their giving up already

 

[durden7]

Originally Posted by Buc Em

The New Jersey Nets will be a playoff team in the next two years. They'll be one next year if they get any of these max free agents, which I'm sure they will. Prokhorov can throw these dudes like 50 mill under the table in cash and no one would have a clue.

One max free agent wont make that team a playoff contender.  They were almost the worst team in the history of the sport this year.  One guy isnt going to turn the team round.

Youre suggesting Prokhorov is going to throw these guys money under the table? 

  

 

[IATT]

i actually think they should just keep dalembert (same for willie green and kapono), because his (their) contract(s) end at the end of next season.. soo they will either be GREAT trade assets or give them much needed cap relief..


the two worst contracts the sixers have are (drum roll please):

                  2010/11          2011/12         2012/13         2013/14
brand:        15,959,099     17,059,726    18,160,354
iggy:           12,345,250     13,531,750    14,718,250    15,904,750

 

[franchise 55]

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by Buc Em

The New Jersey Nets will be a playoff team in the next two years. They'll be one next year if they get any of these max free agents, which I'm sure they will. Prokhorov can throw these dudes like 50 mill under the table in cash and no one would have a clue.

One max free agent wont make that team a playoff contender.  They were almost the worst team in the history of the sport this year.  One guy isnt going to turn the team round.

Youre suggesting Prokhorov is going to throw these guys money under the table? 

  

LeBron James makes the Nets a playoff team.

 

[buc em]

Originally Posted by JPZx

Originally Posted by Buc Em

+%*% it, I'm sold on Turner. I think he's gonna be a star, and no matter who we get in a trade I'd be pissed to not see this guy on my team. I also think he's a loyal guy that would want to spend his entire career with one team.

Or maybe, just maybe, you didn't expect the Sixers to have a chance at Turner and now that they do you're supporting him?

...

ESPN.com's blogger/columnist Chris Sheridan says that Beasley will be traded to clear Cap space and that both the Wolves and Nets are 2 likely destinations. Here's what he says a Wolves/Heat trade will look like....

"Miami offers Beasley, Daequan Cook, James Jones, $3 million and a future No. 1 to Minnesota for basically nothing. The Heat thereby clear all their contracts and get their payroll down to zero (besides Wade), and the Wolves get the No. 2 pick of the '08 draft and a future No. 1."

$@@*. So they could basically sign all of the free agents this summer and have a bench of Chris Quinn and a bunch of D-Leaguers? They would still win like every single game.

 

[raptors29]

Philly needs a guard that can get the bigs the ball. What do some of y'all want? Elton Brand making entry passes from the wing?

 

[rook]

Favors over Turner makes alot of sense to me.

 

[doublejs07]

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

 

[biggieeb0y]

From Espn Insider via realgm forum


NBA DRAFT COMBINE MEASUREMENTS
Player - No step vert - Max vert - Bench press (185 lbs) - Lane agility - 3/4 court sprint
Solomon Alabi 22.5 26.0 10 13.2 3.68
Cole Aldrich 23.0 28.0 10 11.48 3.35
Aminu, Al-Farouq 27.0 33.5 13 11.29 3.3
James Anderson 30.0 35.5 14 11.86 3.19
Luke Babbitt 29.5 37.5 15 10.98 3.4
Eric Bledsoe -N-a -N-a 9 -N-a -N-a
Trevor Booker 31.0 36.0 22 11.15 3.1
Craig Brackins 26.0 35.0 6 11.65 3.39
Avery Bradley 31.5 37.5 2 11.47 3.14
Derrick Caracter 25.0 30.5 22 12.78 3.61
Sherron Collins 27.5 33.0 -N-a 12.31 3.24
DeMarcus Cousins 23.5 27.5 -N-a 11.4 3.55
Jordan Crawford 31.5 34.5 7 11.03 3.37
Ed Davis 31.0 36.0 -N-a 11.7 3.21
Devin Ebanks 23.5 32.0 6 11.69 3.44
Derrick Favors 31.5 35.5 14 11.74 3.25
Keith Gallon 23.5 28.5 14 13.44 3.7
Charles Garcia 24.5 30.5 2 11.65 3.23
Paul George -N-a -N-a 4 -N-a -N-a
Luke Harangody 24.0 28.5 23 11.83 3.41
Manny Harris -N-a -N-a 11 -N-a -N-a
Lazar Hayward 31.0 36.0 15 10.87 3.31
Gordon Hayward 30.5 34.5 10 11.73 3.22
Xavier Henry 28.5 36.5 8 11.1 3.18
Darington Hobson 29.0 34.0 -N-a 11.68 3.25
James, Damion 29.0 33.0 13 10.89 3.2
Armon Johnson 31.5 38.5 18 11.25 3.19
Wesley Johnson 32.0 37.0 16 11.43 3.14
Dominique Jones 26.0 32.5 19 10.88 3.31
Jerome Jordan -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a
Sylven Landesberg 28.0 32.0 8 11.59 3.36
Gani Lawal 27.0 31.5 20 11.61 3.24
Greg Monroe 25.0 29.0 15 12.1 3.35
Daniel Orton 24.0 30.5 13 12.32 3.39
Artsiom Parakhouski 25.5 26.5 16 12.07 3.33
Patrick Patterson 28.5 33.5 17 11.14 3.25
Dexter Pittman -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a
Andy Rautins 23.5 30.5 8 11.27 3.49
Ryan Richards 25.0 28.5 4 11.33 3.37
Stanley Robinson -N-a 37.5 6 11.65 3.23
Larry Sanders 25.5 28.0 7 12.49 3.27
Jon Scheyer -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a
Lance Stephenson 27.0 33.0 10 11.39 3.38
Mikhail Torrance 23.0 32.0 8 11.43 3.17
Evan Turner 27.5 34.5 9 11.06 3.27
Ekpe Udoh 31.0 33.5 10 11.15 3.29
Jarvis Varnado 29.5 32.5 3 11.61 3.37
Greivis Vasquez -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a -N-a
John Wall 30.0 39.0 -N-a 10.84 3.14
Willie Warren 23.0 31.5 10 11.21 3.5
Terrico White 31.0 40.0 10 11.38 3.15
Hassan Whiteside 27.0 31.5 12 11.83 3.54

According to these numbers it doesn't seem like there are many freak athletes like in years past.
It was reported earlier that wall had a 43 in vert...guess not. 39 is good nonetheless.
Cousins with a 27.5 vert?

Dude is extremely long so that will help.

Favors overall numbers and measurements are very similar to Dwight Howard's.
I'm sure Favors is still growing as Dwight probably did. Favors is stronger than Dwight at age 18 but slower.
Favors has the size and athleticism to be a very dominate center if not PF.
Derrick Favors  6' 8.75" 6' 10.25" w/shoes 245 7' 4" wingspan 9' 2" reach 31.5 35.5 14 11.74 3.25
Dwight Howard  6'9"  6'10" w/shoes  240  7' 4.5" wingspan 9' 3.5 reach      30.5 35.5  7  11.21 3.14

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[nicedudewithnicedreams]

Originally Posted by biggieeb0y

Cousins with a 27.5 vert?

Dude is extremely long so that will help.
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I really hope his vert improves after he gets into NBA basketball shape... Dude losing to Cole Aldrich right now...

 

[buc em]

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm not really serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there is DEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.

 

[devi0usb0y]

What are the chances of Wesley Johnson slipping past Minnesota (#4) and Sacramento (#5) to the Warriors at #6? I would really love for them to take him if Cousins doesn't fall out of the Top 3-5.

 

[durden7]

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm not really serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there is DEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.

You really are an idiot, huh?

 

[raptors29]

Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams

Originally Posted by biggieeb0y

Cousins with a 27.5 vert?

Dude is extremely long so that will help.
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I really hope his vert improves after he gets into NBA basketball shape... Dude losing to Cole Aldrich right now...

Nothing he's doing in the next few months is gonna significantly increase his vert. 

 

[buc em]

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by Buc Em

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dude can't be serious about guys getting 50 %*+$$%# mil under the damn table. There's NO way they'd even get 50g's under the table. C'mon now....

Bro that's pocket change for him. I'm not really serious that he'd give them that exact amount but there is DEFINITELY going to be some under the table stuff done with Prokhorov.

You really are an idiot, huh?

Nah, are you? This guy is a genius. I believe he came here with the idea that he wants to build the Yankees of basketball.

 

[dacomeup]

Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason

A ton of iffy "lottery" players, man...