imo it increases the power of the police unions when politicians support unpopular, counter-productive rhetoric.
I agree with purging the police as an idea, but imo you have a better chance of doing that with carrots, as i said back then it's prob going to cost more moneyh not less.
basically bribing toxic officers to retire early.
increasing pay for detectives and requiring a college degree.
hiring more poc officers and women.
that way you erode the conservative base of the police union and increase the number of liberals and progressives.
imo
people want accountable and effective policing
but time after time, voters are willing to abandon accountability for what they perceive to be effective.
can't let police unions trick people into making that trade.
-But again, most liberal and progressive politicians didn't support unpopular or counterproductive rhetoric. The municipal government, which controls most of the spending on law enforcement, are often pro-police. The Democratic party actually gave more money to cities for police since last year. Many liberal cities didn't even follow through with their accountability measures.
The crime wave (which was really a misrepresented increase in murders) has resulted in police budgets growing on aggregate, not shrinking. Places they seem not to be growing, accounting tricks are being used to hide overtime pay.
There was this great threat of the liberal left being captured by out-of-touch progressives, and none of that had come to fruition. Yet I'm still to believe it is some major threat?
-How much thought is being put into how exactly offering these carrots will work? Large sums of money were injected into police forces in the 90s, police forces dudes just recruited more ****heads to fill up their ranks. What carrot is gonna prevent that from happening? We are just gonna hope again that people that run police forces will hire a massive number of cops to change the culture around policing?
For someone that criticizes shallow liberal solutions to problems, right now you are suggesting that to overcome one of the largest hurdles to reform is ideologically diversifying police forces. Right now the people most eager to join police forces are non-college-educated white men. Seems like there is a major risk that police forces will replace old ****heads with new ****heads. I might be wrong on this, but many more police forces have become more white than less white in recent years. Throwing money at this situation doesn't seem like it will reverse this trend.
Also, I want to know what carrot is gonna stop police officers on the street from vetoing reforms they don't like. Or what carrot is gonna make police commanders that won't comply with civilian oversight be willing to own their own purge their ranks if you promise to give them more funding.
Honestly, I think reformers like yourself think that their plans are better than the progressive they hate so that is enough. But never truly consider how their plans will fail to bring desired reforms.
Whether we defund the police or not, or try to purge ****head from their rankings, governments at all levels need to be willing to use the stick more often.
There need to be harsh legal, and civil consequences for police misconduct beyond termination. I don't think there is any getting around that. In places where Dems have the numbers, centrists and liberals need to cut the ******** and pull the trigger on that.
