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Feel like he's just the new version of the Affluenza kid. He's going to mess up and be royally screwed the next time around. Unless he becomes a cop (which is what he wants to do) and then he can kill people legally with no repercussions.
 
Feel like he's just the new version of the Affluenza kid. He's going to mess up and be royally screwed the next time around. Unless he becomes a cop (which is what he wants to do) and then he can kill people legally with no repercussions.

that kid and rapist Brock Turner didn't have a legion of racist idiots and rich politicians behind them though. I can only hope someone catches him slippin in the streets...
 
So the only thing everybody can agree on is increasing the military budget, but have to be “fiscally responsible” about paid sick leave in the middle of a ****ing pandemic?

Do ppl realize how insane that is??
We see how insane that is. But for those at the Capitol...that's another story.
 
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If you wanna trust that go ahead.

These issues polls are extremely sensitive to question framing.

and your next post should cast doubt on how much you should rely on these issue polls.
if +43 of west Virginians allegedly want a giant expansion of the welfare state.

yet they keep electing republicans and donald trump carried the state by 40 points....

outside of WV the most popular governors are do nothing republicans in blue states.

at some point you gotta ask what is the revealed reference of the voters?


and after the programs in BBB are sabotaged by republicans at the state level
and don't get renewed by newly re elected president donald trump

you think this stuff will still poll at +43
 
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if +43 of west Virginians allegedly want a giant expansion of the welfare state.

yet they keep electing republicans and donald trump carried the state by 40 points....

outside of WV the most popular governors are do nothing republicans in blue states.

at some point you gotta ask what is the revealed reference of the voters?
The simple form of the answer is that they expect those things from Republicans.

Look at how rebranding of the ACA in Kentucky in ways that do not reference Obama's involvement made it more popular in the state. Look at how GOP Congress members run victory parades in their states about Democratic policies they voted against from the committees to the floor.

There are a lot of poorly informed Republicans out there who believe that the GOP supported the stimulus checks and the infrastructure bill, and they simply ignore the deaths threats (from their side) received by the 13 republican congresspeople who went against the party's official stance.

I think you underestimate the level of animus that exists for the Democratic brand in this country, and after having lived here for so many years and having observed the dissonance that exists between what the Republican voter knows they need and how they vote, the only explanation I have for that is what McGee describes in The Sum of Us.
 
I don’t live in Oklahoma, and I didn’t support any of their state legislators.

What are you talking about?

you didn’t support republicans for years?

you still can’t call trump a crook, racist and/or antisemitic.. he directly empowered these people

we told you and yet you spent years defending and justifying
 
you didn’t support republicans for years?

you still can’t call trump a crook, racist and/or antisemitic.. he directly empowered these people

we told you and yet you spent years defending and justifying

I have supported both republicans and democrats for years.

I stopped supporting Trump over a year ago and I support President Biden and Vice President Harris now.

You tagging me in random links to legislation by Oklahoma state legislators, when I don’t live in Oklahoma, is silly.
 
I have supported both republicans and democrats for years.

I stopped supporting Trump over a year ago and I support President Biden and Vice President Harris now.

You tagging me in random links to legislation by Oklahoma state legislators, when I don’t live in Oklahoma, is silly.

you stopped supporting the man when he lost, allegedly

yet you cant admit the damage that has been done in his time as president and continues to happen in his name

you cant even admit the man is a racist, a crook and/or antisemetic when provided with evidence
 
The simple form of the answer is that they expect those things from Republicans.

I don't think voters are as stupid as you describe.

I think people are well aware that republicans are the party of a stingy welfare state, low taxes and low regulations.

Look at how rebranding of the ACA in Kentucky in ways that do not reference Obama's involvement made it more popular in the state. Look at how GOP Congress members run victory parades in their states about Democratic policies they voted against from the committees to the floor.

Obamacare is not BBB, like I said do you think when these half funded programs expire after being sabotaged by republicans and the state level

do you think they will rebound in popularity like Obamacare?


I think you underestimate the level of animus that exists for the Democratic brand in this country, and after having lived here for so many years and having observed the dissonance that exists between what the Republican voter knows they need and how they vote, the only explanation I have for that is what McGee describes in The Sum of Us.

lol I def do not, my whole theory of politics is that Democratic brand is toxic and democrats need to fix it.

but I do not think that move further to the left on policy is going to do it.



and I think you underestimate the number of americans who are mostly comfortable with the status quo
and do not want large upheavals in american welfare state policy.
stimulus checks sure, build bridge fix some roads okay, but not the same thing as big new government programs that maybe designed poorly and rely on the good will of republican governors to be implemented correctly.

a large amount of americans seem to like america.
and I think you are living in a technicolour dream world if you really believe that +43
west Virginia's are fiending for BBB.
 
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