***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[whywesteppin]

GOP gonna GOP
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...clintons-presidency.html?mid=twitter-share-di

 In an interview
 touting fellow Republican Senator Pat Toomey, McCain pledges that he and his party will continue the Supreme Court blockade throughout Clinton’s term. “I promise you that we will be united against any Supreme Court nominee that Hillary Clinton, if she were president, would put up,” McCain said. “I promise you. This is where we need the majority and Pat Toomey is probably as articulate and effective on the floor of the Senate as anyone I have encountered.”

Edit: already walked back his comments 
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-acti...pledge-to-block-clinton-supreme-court-nominee

it's ***** boy behavior like this that opens the door for an even bigger **** boy like trump to question his manhood. you mean you can survive years as a POW but you can't stand up for yourself to the GOP?

I'll always respect McCain for some of what he did during his 2008 campaign but he has squandered a lot of his moral high ground this year.

 

[aepps20]

The GOP is fully of **** boys with ***** made tendencies. They really think they can stall the Supreme Court appointment 4 years? Can't stand McCain who took the L Obama gave him and hasn't been the same since.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

RustyShackleford
I don't know who he answers to, but IMO he didn't come to the conclusion to not pursue charges against her on his own. When people within the FBI, who would know better than you and I about the situation, are upset that no charges were brought it should make you think harder about the situation. She mishandled classified info which is a crime. Therefore criminal. But she skated on it.
Not much attention to the TV coverage, I was following loosely online. I wouldn't even call Trump's coverage positive, he was just getting a lot of coverage.

It was determined that the emails were retroactively declared classified after journalist hit em with FOIA.

No one was ever going to jail for this, it just looks bad.

We need to have the Hillary coverage just like the Trump coverage. Just because the dirt has been out or been collected over time doesn't mean it shouldn't be covered currently or revisited.

Wait, what about Hillary hasn't been covered?

Here's the thing with Hillary and the Clinton's that should be pretty obvious.

They clearly think they are on the side of righteous and they are clearly willing to push it right up to grey area to get things done, but this idea that they are enriching themselves through politics, or engaging in blatantly illegal actions is pretty dumb.


Clintons do stuff that LOOKS bad, then the media investigates, and discovers no real wrong doing.

Headline: CLINTONS DO THING THAT LOOKS SHADY

3 paragraphs later: turns out it wasn't shady.

rinse and repeat.

 

[essential1]

Like the quid pro quo story today. The FBI said there was no quid pro quo... and the FBI Agent was the one who brought the idea to Clinton

 

[ninjahood]

an attempt is just as damaging as a actual quid pro quo.

 

[essential1]

You legitimately have no idea what the story is.

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

[osh kosh bosh]

It's funny how the absurdity of the Clinton corruption arguments never seem to dawn on conservatives and Bernie Bros.


Clinton is somehow criminally incompetent, and a hyper competent criminal master mind at the same damn time.




Like she's so incompetent her sloppiness and bad decision making led to, the email server hacking, the death of Americans and the destruction of the middle east...


But so competent that she is somehow able to turn the state department into a pay for play op, murder Vincent foster, convince a republican FBI director to not charge her with a crime...


HOW SWAY?

 

[RustyShackleford]

It's funny how the absurdity of the Clinton corruption arguments never seem to dawn on conservatives and Bernie Bros.


Clinton is somehow criminally incompetent, and a hyper competent criminal master mind at the same damn time.




Like she's so incompetent her sloppiness and bad decision making led to, the email server hacking, the death of Americans and the destruction of the middle east...


But so competent that she is somehow able to turn the state department into a pay for play op, murder Vincent foster, convince a republican FBI director to not charge her with a crime...


HOW SWAY?

La Abuela is so nice wit da corruption, dudes can't figure out which direction the hustle is going in.

 

[Master Zik]

Dudes make her out to be the Columbo and Inspector Clouseau of criminals while at the same time the Keyser Soze and Moriarity of good guys

**** don't make sense.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Headline from 538... Hit the link for the full story if you care to.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ans-a-steadier-forecast/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

Updated forecast as of an hour ago for the presidential race & senate.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

The Tax Policy Center has cosigned with the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School's findings stating -

In the short run, Trump's tax plan reduces taxes on business and higher income Americans, boosting investment and work, which results in more economic growth. However, in the long run, the Trump tax plan increases federal debt more than current policy, resulting in less economic growth.

Here's why: The Trump tax cuts are estimated to reduce revenue by trillions in the first decade. Absent offsetting measures, that means the United States would have to borrow a lot more money than it already does. That, in turn, means the U.S. government will be competing with the private sector to attract investors' dollars, and that will drive money away from a productive part of the economy.

"If the tax cut substantially increases government debt ... the debt competes with private capital for household savings and international capital flows," the report said.

The UPenn/Wharton model estimates that Trump's plan could add an additional 1.1% to GDP in 2018 relative to current law. But by 2024 that positive effect is erased and by 2027 it could lower GDP by 0.78%. By 2037, it could produce 4.6% less GDP than expected.

There are ways that the long-run effects of the revenue loss created by Trump's plan would not be negative. But the changes needed to offset them might not be realistic.
For instance, Trump and his economic advisers have asserted that revenue losses under his tax plan could be offset in part through spending cuts. But he's ruled out touching Medicare and Social Security. To fully offset the negative effects of the debt created by his tax plan, Trump would have to cut non-Medicare, non-Social Security spending by 50%, said Kent Smetters, faculty director of the Penn Wharton Budget Model.

Or, Smetters noted, the amount of foreign investment in new U.S. debt would have to reach levels far above the historical average of 40%.

The numbers, like Shakira's hips, don't lie...

 

[RustyShackleford]

I for one believe Hillary is highly competent, it is just that the Clintons are arrogant and extremely entittled.

Are they overly scrutinzed, yes.

Do people look for any and everything to paint them as evil, of course.

Is almost all the stuff sad about them overblown, without a doubt.

Do they routinely make matters worst for themselves because they can't handle a situation not being altered for their conveince, or throw fits when a sitation doesn't go there way, absolutely.

 

[RustyShackleford]

The Tax Policy Center has cosigned with the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School's findings stating -

In the short run, Trump's tax plan reduces taxes on business and higher income Americans, boosting investment and work, which results in more economic growth. However, in the long run, the Trump tax plan increases federal debt more than current policy, resulting in less economic growth.

Here's why: The Trump tax cuts are estimated to reduce revenue by trillions in the first decade. Absent offsetting measures, that means the United States would have to borrow a lot more money than it already does. That, in turn, means the U.S. government will be competing with the private sector to attract investors' dollars, and that will drive money away from a productive part of the economy.

"If the tax cut substantially increases government debt ... the debt competes with private capital for household savings and international capital flows," the report said.

The UPenn/Wharton model estimates that Trump's plan could add an additional 1.1% to GDP in 2018 relative to current law. But by 2024 that positive effect is erased and by 2027 it could lower GDP by 0.78%. By 2037, it could produce 4.6% less GDP than expected.

There are ways that the long-run effects of the revenue loss created by Trump's plan would not be negative. But the changes needed to offset them might not be realistic.
For instance, Trump and his economic advisers have asserted that revenue losses under his tax plan could be offset in part through spending cuts. But he's ruled out touching Medicare and Social Security. To fully offset the negative effects of the debt created by his tax plan, Trump would have to cut non-Medicare, non-Social Security spending by 50%, said Kent Smetters, faculty director of the Penn Wharton Budget Model.

Or, Smetters noted, the amount of foreign investment in new U.S. debt would have to reach levels far above the historical average of 40%.

The numbers, like Shakira's hips, don't lie...

When your alma mater runs you da fade.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

^ They won't publicly acknowledge him any bit & this was even well before he had political aspirations. His classmates don't either remember him or don't have the kindest things to say about him.

 

[whywesteppin]

Oh lord, I think I'm going to vomit. Did you guys sees this? OMG... After everything these past couple weeks and the video of him telling a 10-year-old he'd date her after 10 years, he does this:



I can't even. This can't be real life.

He says, "And do you know that you're ..." Then cuts himself off. What do you think he was going to say?

a) Do you know that you're 10 years away from dating me?
b) Do you know that you're a black?
c) Do you know that I'm going to ruin your future?

For those too scared to watch the video, he calls out to a girl in the audience, "That is the most beautiful little girl." Brings her on stage, lifts her up, then kisses her twice, the second time it appears he is going for her lips.

:x :x :x :x

Reminds me of some things he's said:

[quote name="Trump the Chump"]I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.[/quote]

[quote name="Trump the Chump"]I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?[/quote]

 

[everysingletime]

I don't even want to click the video. What he do? Lol

 

[aepps20]

Scumbag probably scoping out his future wife

 

[MVP]

Bruh these Drumpf surrogates, be having me rolling on CNN this Betsy lady is crazy as hell. Brought up the Salem Witch Trials in defense of her guy and sexual assault allegations. They are so shameful.

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[mister friendly]

What was wrong in the video? I didn't see anything egregiously bad.

 

[RustyShackleford]

What was wrong in the video? I didn't see anything egregiously bad.

The video alone is cool. It when you watch the video and remember he was checking out lil girls talking about "I will date them in 10 years" then it becomes kinda creepy.

Like is dude awkawardly campaigning, or plotting on a future sugar baby

 

[Master Zik]

What were her parents really thinking? :x

 

[whywesteppin]

What was wrong in the video? I didn't see anything egregiously bad.

i was a bit over the top, it wasn't anything criminal. but it becomes more and more creepy the more you remember the stuff trump has said, as rusty said.

maybe trump is just trolling us.

 

[everysingletime]

Still haven't watched the video.

But sounds like something Trump wouldn't do if he wasn't desperate for the minority vote.