***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[osh kosh bosh]

Dude has a security detail as a royal. He criticized his Throne for taking it away when he left. His being a royal and an Afghan war vet makes him a target. but as a royal, he was provided a big security detail

Harry was a millionaire from the inheritance from their mother.

As a working member of the Royal Family, he received financial support from his dad, I don't think Charles and William had to line-item approve every purchase he made.

Again, I feel you are putting a lii too much sauce on it to basically say that you value personal autonomy to the point being a royal doesn't seem appealing to you. Ok cool, that is a personal choice

However, I would guess a good bit of middle-class people in developed countries would trade with Harry too. A middle-class life comes with its own set of constraints

I feel sorry for the dude for the unique life circumstances he experienced, and he didn't get to pick his life. But on paper, I just don't see being a royal being that bad compared to much of middle-class life.

it's ultimately just my opinion. I wouldn't take it.

needing a security detail to just to exist in public would really suck imo
and it seems like they were holding it over him as a means of control.

to the point that an accused sex criminal got to keep the security but he lost his.

the millions that you can't really spend without public scrutiny okay from the crown
and it must just warp your mind being born into being strange ritualistic prop for the rest of your life.

it just seems like a horrible gilded cage.
Id rather have the constraints of normal middle class life.

his bro had him and his girl living in a cottage built for 5'4 18th century humans,
and you gotta deal with racist press insulting your wife?

nah man im good, ill go to work and live a normal life thanks.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Millionaire, no question.

Nobody said you gotta be a scumbag when you get money.

all money aint good money

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I really like Jerrod Carmichael. Love Rothaniel.

but a smart and incisive message aint enough, you also gotta be funny.
while I enjoyed how uncomfortable he made people, the jokes just weren't that strong.

 

[Based Jesus]

Poverty is a cage too. I'll take the gilded one.

 

[mplsdunk]

all money aint good money

No argument from me there.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Poverty is a cage too. I'll take the gilded one.

well yes and hence why I said;

"excluding the poor and destitute."

 

[osh kosh bosh]

see but I can't just let you say you'd rather work graveyard at Wal-Mart or drive randoms around in your car instead of being in the Royal ****ing Family of England.

those are "regular jobs."

I'd aim my sympathies elsewhere, that man will never miss a meal in life.

...how you follow up that previous post of yours with this?

to clarify by "regular" I meant, solid middle class

obviously if you are poor and struggling that's a different equation.

 

[Belgium]

I’ve assumed this from the start but it’s looking very likely he’s going to get indicted.
There’s what looks like pretty obvious tax evasion and indisputably willfully lying on a gun firearm purchase form. Doesn’t look like they have anything criminal that Republicans have been campaigning on.

 

[cragmatic]

I would easily choose to be a millionaire (which Harry would be) with complete personal autonomy instead of being 6th in line for the throne with the press hounding me, and my life being under threat.

Yeah of course.

Affluent Upper middle class

Sure

Upper middle class

Maybe

But making 60K, having ****ty insurance, not being apple to afford housing in my area, having to spend my kids in underfunded schools, and hoping the economy doesn't squeeze me.

Nah, give me the ****ty family, security detail, and the other ****ery. I'll manage

Ehh, I think I’m with Osh on this one.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Ehh, I think I’m with Osh on this one.

I don't care

 

[cragmatic]

I don't care

You cared enough to respond Rusty.

 

[cosmiccoffee9]

to clarify by "regular" I meant, solid middle class

obviously if you are poor and struggling that's a different equation.

I mean that's kinda my point, "middle class" is super aspirational for more people than not...a significant amount of large US employers do not provide solid lifestyles.

you gotta take a lot for granted to say some guy they call 'prince' has a bad life.




...only semi-related, but TIL the US has no federal guidelines around paid time off and many states don't address it either...I'd take a spare crown for the vacation days alone.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I mean that's kinda my point, "middle class" is super aspirational for more people than not...a significant amount of large US employers do not provide solid lifestyles.

so? im still not swapping lives with harry and i wouldn't if i was a middle class american/canadian/western european.

you gotta take a lot for granted to say some guy they call 'prince' has a bad life.

i disagree, I would hate his life. so for me, hating life = bad life.

we can all value things differently.
for me compared to a middle class life, the loss of personal autonomy is not worth whatever comforts of modern royal life.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I think "middle-class" life is doing a lot of work here

Almost like it is being used in the British sense, where the middle class is what Americans know as being upper middle class

Not the true economic reality, and insecurities, of being in the middle of the middle

Someone in the middle of the income distribution is closer to someone that is poor than they are someone that is even somewhat affluent. In earnings and economic realities

I would think if you take someone that is middle of middle, and make a royal, it probably adds over a decade to their life expectancy

Middle-class life restrains people in a lot of ways

 

[RustyShackleford]

Being a royal was also literally Harry's job too

Like I have a hard time buying that dudes making below 60k are not constrained in many ways by their job directly

And constrained some more indirectly by how much economic insecurity that wage comes with

 

[IATT]

 

[Fozz]

I really like Jerrod Carmichael. Love Rothaniel.

but a smart and incisive message aint enough, you also gotta be funny.
while I enjoyed how uncomfortable he made people, the jokes just weren't that strong.

His joke about Shelley Miscavige was good though lol.

 

[mplsdunk]

Why would you want to be middle class over rich? **** is expensive af out here.

If money would change you that much it’s not the money’s fault.

 

[elpablo21]

This might be worse than the people choosing the dinner with Jay-Z

 

[mplsdunk]

I won the lottery and burnt the ticket because it will only make me hustle harder lookin asses.

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[Nike Jordan]

 

[cragmatic]

We have seen how many well off people kill themselves and y’all still think it would be just peaches and cream being a royal? I mean sure maybe, but that lifestyle does not seem all that at all.

Mental health > wealth

If your wealthy but you hate your life, what difference does it make?

 

[IATT]

 

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