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After the midterms debacle, people are finally seeing the light on NY dems. It's a different kind of blue here
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and richer countries have higher suicide rates.
Money is nice, but clearly it isn't everything.
if you are living a solid middle class life, in a rich country, would trade that to live in a cottage on your grandmother's estate and give up almost all personal autonomy
to live a life as a assassination target/ritualistic prop??
maybe you would, im good on that.
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Will never wrap my head around how the royals are important.
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the ability for politicians to turn every subject into a partisan culture war
is truly astounding.
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If it takes 20 minutes to explain why we should get rid of gas stoves probably not going to get a lot people.
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they are a place to put the humans instincts to worship and elevate leaders
into an a ineffectual box.
americans revere politicians and presidents in king like ways, and that can lead to bad outcomes (Trump)
in a constitutional monarchy, the reverence is reserved for a person with zero political power.
allowing the citizens to treat politicians in a more practical less emotionally charged way.
basically they are important, by not actually being important.
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Gotta love the "independents" (who only seem to be interested in "owning da libs") trying to virtue signal over these dead covid deniers who preached death and murdering Fauci.
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Taibbi, Greenwald, Musk and that entire contingent are by far, some of the worst actors out there. Like, they straight up are great at being dishonest liars and being real propagandist. It’s insane.
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This is kind of a pointless thing to bring up
The suicide rate of British Royals I would assume it very low
Below that of middle-class people in advanced economies
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it seems to me to indicate it's possible to be materially well off and be very unhappy.
and if it's possible saying "Why would you want to be middle class over rich"
doesn't make much sense to me as a rebuttal.
there must be circumstances that exist where you would it would be rational to choose a happy middle class life, over unhappy rich life.
now you may think you'd be happier living as a b teir royal over middle class life,
but life having more money doesn't automatically end the argument.
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-But there is a serious flaw in using that metric. Even putting aside being a member of the royal family
The switch would be someone living a middle-class life in a "rich country" to someone being rich in a rich country.
That is fundamentally the argument going on, and Britain is an advanced economy.
Going from middle class to rich in an advanced economy I would think would lower someone's suicide risk
Within the context of this discussion, bringing up suicide rates seems to help
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argument, not yours.And don't think anyone was trying to just end the argument there. Again,
mplsdunk
just made a simple reasonable point.And the suicide thing doesn't really push back on it in any meaningful way, because you changed the groups being discussed.
So that is why I called it kinda pointless.
-Adding back in the Royal aspect
Like you are trying to argue that there are unique things about being a royal that would make one unhappy
And then point to suicide rates to show unhappiness among the rich
But again, British Royals have an even lower suicide rate. So that there undercuts your general argument
As I said, I get your point but you are putting too much sauce on it
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You telling me you wouldn’t take this over half a milli?This might be worse than the people choosing the dinner with Jay-Z
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im not using it as a metric to prove that harrys life is worse than a middle class life.
im using to show that having money doesn't prevent you from having an unhappy life.
so it doesn't mean it's automatically obvious that Harrys life is better than a middle class life.
if he wasn't using it as an argument ender, well then i guess i misread it.
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I don't think anyone was arguing this specific point.
I think people, including dude, were just trying to try in the realities, especially economic ones, that middle-class people face that rich people don't
And to make an honest comparison, those things need to be considered
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Just watch the video.
It explains why the gas industry uses gas stoves to appeal to people's emotional attatchment to gas.
American Public Gas Association hired PR company Porter Novelli to figure out how to manipulate people's emotions enough to keep them using gas.
People don't really care if their furnace, water heater is gas or electric but they do care about their stove.
The goal is to keep people on gas as long as possible even if electric is the better option.
"Emotional arguments can shape the public narrative even when the facts don't support them."
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Manchin gonna retire if Justice runs.
Justice would put a Georgia v. TCU level beating on Manchin
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Just watch the video.
It explains why the gas industry uses gas stoves to appeal to people's emotional attatchment to gas.
American Public Gas Association hired PR company Porter Novelli to figure out how to manipulate people's emotions enough to keep them using gas.
People don't really care if their furnace, water heater is gas or electric but they do care about their stove.
The goal is to keep people on gas as long as possible even if electric is the better option.
"Emotional arguments can shape the public narrative even when the facts don't support them."
Curious, emotional in what way? I used to sell appliances years ago and gas stoves are more efficient energy wise.
If we are saying emotions in the sense that people prefer cooking on them to an electric stove top, then maybe that makes sense?
And this is a very small percentage but people who do canning require a gas stove.
Also if you are properly using your vent hood (which many people don’t) that should help properly vent gases.
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Economic realities certainly should be considered, but for myself, I would hate being in the limelight and having every move you make always being debated by the public/media/etc.
I’m sure if Harry was a regular person he would t get nearly as much flack for marrying Megan has he did.
Not to mention the effects it probably has on their kids as well. But money fixes everything right ? Can’t imagine that having a negative effect at all as a child/kid growing up with your family constantly in the limelight. (Sarcasm)
To me, the psychological effects it would have on myself and my family would not be worth it. Not to
Mention constantly feeling like there’s a target on your back. No thanks.
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I didn’t know where else to post this but
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