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Us needs to get into mining lithium too. China controls that game. They’re gonna act up and withhold the 
I can see it already.
I can see it already.
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My 2024 prediction is Biden steps down in a month or so from the 2024 ballot and someone else fills that spot.
His campaign will be riddled with protestors and also imagine him debating Trump on tv. Lol
His campaign will be riddled with protestors and also imagine him debating Trump on tv. Lol
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Menendez Faces a New Accusation: Aiding the Qatari Government
Federal prosecutors said Senator Robert Menendez, a New Jersey Democrat, accepted tens of thousands of dollars in bribes to help Qatar’s government.
Good ******* grief
He needs to resign at this point
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This guy is definitely not as smart as the keyboard warriors in here but he seems to make decent points re: Biden and impending WW3
“…This shows once more that as time has passed and Biden has refused to push for a ceasefire, we are getting closer and closer to a full war in the region. We are seeing escalation in the Red Sea, where the US just killed 10 Houthi fighters. We are seeing it in Lebanon. And we are seeing it in Iraq and Syria, where militias have targeted US troops. The US will very likely get dragged into a region-wide war.Biden's primary responsibility to the American people is to keep them safe and out of wars that don't serve US interests. The most effective way of de-escalating is by securing a ceasefire in Gaza. There is strong evidence that a ceasefire will stop the Houthi attacks in the Red Sea, the militia…”
“…Israel bombing Lebanon to kill Hamas Deputy Saleh Al-Arouri tells us at least 3 things…
….3) Israel wants to make this a regional war in order to pull American troops into it.Genocide Joe can’t control Israel, and Americans are paying for it.
If you’re black or brown or poor white guy- get your army badges ready folks.
“…This shows once more that as time has passed and Biden has refused to push for a ceasefire, we are getting closer and closer to a full war in the region. We are seeing escalation in the Red Sea, where the US just killed 10 Houthi fighters. We are seeing it in Lebanon. And we are seeing it in Iraq and Syria, where militias have targeted US troops. The US will very likely get dragged into a region-wide war.Biden's primary responsibility to the American people is to keep them safe and out of wars that don't serve US interests. The most effective way of de-escalating is by securing a ceasefire in Gaza. There is strong evidence that a ceasefire will stop the Houthi attacks in the Red Sea, the militia…”
“…Israel bombing Lebanon to kill Hamas Deputy Saleh Al-Arouri tells us at least 3 things…
….3) Israel wants to make this a regional war in order to pull American troops into it.Genocide Joe can’t control Israel, and Americans are paying for it.
If you’re black or brown or poor white guy- get your army badges ready folks.
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Says the man posting in here
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Your schtick is getting old and tiresome. Just admit your a Trump fanboy who is dying for him to win in November so you can gloat.
If he wins, I hope you enjoy what you get as the end result! That's having him be the emperor/king/dictator for the rest of his life and presidential elections will be a thing of the past! Oh, and I hope you're single, because of you have a GF/Fiance/Wife or a significant other, or any dependants who are female, their rights (and the rights of all women) will go right out the window! Don't believe me? Then you have blinders on to what's happening with all the GOP talking points!
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A lot of people are rightfully terrified of what a close US ally is doing to two million extremely vulnerable people right at this very moment.
A lot of people are rightfully terrified of what a second Trump presidency would mean for a lot of vulnerable people within and without the borders of the US.
And there’s obviously a ton of overlap.
The tricky part is that the same guy both plays a role in what Israel is doing to vulnerable people and is the bulwark against Trump. And too much of intra left discourse has become rooted in the idea that you can only act on of those truths.
Either you vote for Biden and you accept what’s happening in Gaza or you decide that , understandably, the notion of harm reduction is out the window and Gazas gotta die in order to prevent Trump from getting elected and causing more total damage.
The fact that we even have to make these choices speaks to deep systemic failures which must be addressed and addressed very soon.
Moreover, if you care about Gaza, you must do everything you can do to pressure the Israeli regime and it’s principle Allies. And if you care about civil rights here in the US, you must do what you can to build countervailing power structures and not rely solely on the state as a guarantor of civil rights since the state is vulnerable to reactionary takeover. Thankfully, those two goals are often interlinked.
On the narrow question of voting, just vote for the most viable challenger to the GOP at every level. Voting is just one item in the tool kit. Sadly, the question of US foreign policy towards Israel will not be on the ballot in 2024 (foreign policy as well as the major questions about the economy are largely immune to popular opinion) but a good deal of civil rights issues will be on the ballot. Vote on those and use direct action to save Gaza because voting/not voting won’t save them.
Vote blue in the morning and then get right back to boycotting, divesting, and sanctioning Israel over Palestine. We can address those two things at the same time. We can and we must.
A lot of people are rightfully terrified of what a second Trump presidency would mean for a lot of vulnerable people within and without the borders of the US.
And there’s obviously a ton of overlap.
The tricky part is that the same guy both plays a role in what Israel is doing to vulnerable people and is the bulwark against Trump. And too much of intra left discourse has become rooted in the idea that you can only act on of those truths.
Either you vote for Biden and you accept what’s happening in Gaza or you decide that , understandably, the notion of harm reduction is out the window and Gazas gotta die in order to prevent Trump from getting elected and causing more total damage.
The fact that we even have to make these choices speaks to deep systemic failures which must be addressed and addressed very soon.
Moreover, if you care about Gaza, you must do everything you can do to pressure the Israeli regime and it’s principle Allies. And if you care about civil rights here in the US, you must do what you can to build countervailing power structures and not rely solely on the state as a guarantor of civil rights since the state is vulnerable to reactionary takeover. Thankfully, those two goals are often interlinked.
On the narrow question of voting, just vote for the most viable challenger to the GOP at every level. Voting is just one item in the tool kit. Sadly, the question of US foreign policy towards Israel will not be on the ballot in 2024 (foreign policy as well as the major questions about the economy are largely immune to popular opinion) but a good deal of civil rights issues will be on the ballot. Vote on those and use direct action to save Gaza because voting/not voting won’t save them.
Vote blue in the morning and then get right back to boycotting, divesting, and sanctioning Israel over Palestine. We can address those two things at the same time. We can and we must.
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EveryDLF post is the same thing.
Wild conspiratorial claim + dubious source = dems are bad.
"So @BasedAdolf1939 said that Biden and his Jewish handlers decided to bomb a Palestinian paraplegic orphanage "
"the democratic party is a joke"
rinse and repeat.
he's like a bizzarro leftwing version of an @aepps20 post
You forgot to mention ZanJi putting the “100%” emoji stamp of approval on the post. (I still haven’t figured out if it’s a legit account or a burner account)
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I see we've reached the point in the cycle in which single issue non-voters begin affecting a cynical disgust for candidate quality, despite sitting out every single primary election - as if the best way to “teach the DNC a lesson” is to forfeit your vote when it’s time to choose a candidate. (Yes, let the Boomers decide. That’ll show them.)
The same nihilists who told us that there was no point to voting in prior elections (because the President is just a figurehead and corporations control everything) are suddenly discovering that Presidents have power after all.
Oddly, their newfound outrage for the evils of settler colonialism has thus far failed to produce any fresh vitriol for their beloved techno-kings:
www.thedailybeast.com
The synchronicity of self-professed “independent thinkers” is nothing if not ironic.
The same nihilists who told us that there was no point to voting in prior elections (because the President is just a figurehead and corporations control everything) are suddenly discovering that Presidents have power after all.
Oddly, their newfound outrage for the evils of settler colonialism has thus far failed to produce any fresh vitriol for their beloved techno-kings:
Pronomos Capital’s New VC Idea: Colonies of Tech Bros
Pronomos Capital has raised at least $13.3 million from free-market evangelists including Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen.
The synchronicity of self-professed “independent thinkers” is nothing if not ironic.
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did no one learn from the Grafton, NH failure?!
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Honestly, Donald Trump is not really an insurrectionist. He just America’d a little too hard that even a majority of America’s ruling class got disgusted/found him inconvenient.
The ability to ignore, overturn, or otherwise subvert elections, is just a normal American thing, especially when we look at the role that America has played in dozens of democratic elections.
All those “good” Republicans also see any electoral outcome that they don’t like as being illegitimate. The difference is that they want to ensure permanent minority rule by more quiet means. January 6th was so spectacular and grotesque that it may prove to be a factor in an ultimate unraveling of the GOP’s post 2010 campaign of trying to subvert democracy. The GOP’s lawfare, gerrymandering,, voter suppression, and moneyed capture of State Houses may have succeeded if Donald Trump didn’t try what may be the most oafish coup attempt in history.
The mainstream GOP was building a racist, plutocratic ship in a bottle and Donald Trump and his hoards of leathery ghouls trampled all over it.
The ability to ignore, overturn, or otherwise subvert elections, is just a normal American thing, especially when we look at the role that America has played in dozens of democratic elections.
All those “good” Republicans also see any electoral outcome that they don’t like as being illegitimate. The difference is that they want to ensure permanent minority rule by more quiet means. January 6th was so spectacular and grotesque that it may prove to be a factor in an ultimate unraveling of the GOP’s post 2010 campaign of trying to subvert democracy. The GOP’s lawfare, gerrymandering,, voter suppression, and moneyed capture of State Houses may have succeeded if Donald Trump didn’t try what may be the most oafish coup attempt in history.
The mainstream GOP was building a racist, plutocratic ship in a bottle and Donald Trump and his hoards of leathery ghouls trampled all over it.
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I mean, the MAGA/GOP folks seem to want it more.
One side is willing to kill and die for a fascist game show host. The other side is trying to defeat that game show host by getting mad at niche socialist podcasts and drive-time radio show hosts or telling grieving Palestinian Americans to suck it up.
Like I’m not saying liberals should start going dril mode but ya know, it wouldn’t be a great look through the lens of history to have talked in such existential terms about Trump when it will be known that his people were trying to unalive unfriendly judges while Trump’s opponents were, well not doing anything that emphatic.
But that’s IF Trump wins which I see as quite unlikely because Trump will negatively polarize enough people and until in 2016, a number of his voters will stay home because he already was president and didn’t do the things that low propensity, culturally conservative voters wanted. No wall, no return to plentiful jobs for high school grads, no government issued girl friends, and no tanks rolling (under their own power at least) through DC. as part of a military parade.
Whatever problems Biden might have with parts of his 2020 coalition being disillusioned with him, Trump is going to have as well in trying to replicate his 2016 campaign. Trump lacks the bully pulpit of a sitting president but also has all the baggage of any incumbent, and then some.
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They could have mentioned literally anybody. Like, pick a name. I mean, Gene Simmons is right there. And they pick Neil Young.
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The best part is he didn't qualify for the debate.
