***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[pmatic]

High since the tour starts tomorrow.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Pretty naive take.

This is bad take

You know what changed? Polling of Hispanic constituencies changed to favor harsher restrictions. Can’t we just admit they didn’t do a damn thing at the border for 2+ years while crossings reached record highs?

Hispanics have been right of the current Dems on the border for a while. Probably since Obama left.

Obama himself tried his best to drive down border crossings to all time lows. Some Progressives even started calling him deporter-in-chief

Obama is also the same dude that started DACA

The Dems position on immigration since Clinton left always been compromise.

With Bush, Obama, and Trump they have shown they are willing to compromise. Biden continues that traditional but the bill in question was narrower in scope.

They didn’t pass anything with a super majority because they didn’t want to.

The Democrats didn't have a supermajority during Biden. They technically didn't have one under Obama either.

A supermajority means 60 Senators. Enough to overcome a fillibuster. The Dems had 50 Senators after 2020.

They had a majority in all three Houses. Besides certain things like Budget Reconciliation, the GOP can block any legislation they please.

Oh btw, the bill didn't die in the House. Republican Senators flipped and killed it after pressure from Trump.

Then it looked bad heading into another election. I’m not sure how any democrat feels this administration did anything good on immigration reform or helping young kids stuck here illegally

You are using the same action to are two points

Joe Biden's prioritize letting unaccompanied minors cross the border.

Biden's main move on the border was letting people go through the normal longer process to get an amesty trial. So capacity at holding facilities not get overwhelmed. But as a result, that incentivzed more people to try to cross. Also, Venezuela and Haiti is pretty much melting down as a county so we see a surge.

Immigration reform compromise has been offered for decades to Republicans. They always kill it.

The Dems have limited power on what they can actually do legislatively, and with DACA they are pretty close to maxed out with other avenues.

I didn't like parts of the recent immigration bill but it was a net positive because capacity is the major issue driving issues at the border and it helps address that.

If you are mad about the filibuster, okay. But I only like two Dems (who both left the party) are too blame.

But blaming the Dems for not working some magic otherwise sounds silly to me.

 

[Betonblck]

If this persists it will impact the US election. Biden and Kamala have benefitted from the US economy being relatively strong throughout their administration. If the US heads towards a recession and global markets tank, it will hurt Kamala and help Trump.

The Fed is going to keep rates high to tank the economy. Biden should have gotten rid of Jay Powell a long time ago.

 

[RustyShackleford]

People should not start panicking yet.

And I think unless there is a large tick up inflation, the Fed cuts rates next month

 

[ballinsam23]

90% chance of rate cuts in September.

Republicans really had no plan whatsoever if Biden stepped down. Even a bigger mess now.

 

[RustyShackleford]

RFK is a weird dude

 

[dragicon]

Why couldn’t the markets wait like 4 months before they tanked?

 

[pmatic]

 

[trappedintime]

Why couldn’t the markets wait like 4 months before they tanked?

Well they kind of did. Unemployment rate has gone up every month this year, almost every month has had downward revisions from already weak numbers.

 

[Based Jesus]

RFK Jr is unreal

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

[Betonblck]

People should not start panicking yet.

And I think unless there is a large tick up inflation, the Fed cuts rates next month

September is too late. It takes at least 6 months for rate cuts to have an impact.

 

[cragmatic]

Funny, the party of God doesn’t care about protecting the land he gave us.

 

[pmatic]

 

[ballinsam23]

September is too late. It takes at least 6 months for rate cuts to have an impact.

Markets been priced in for this. There may be a knee-jerk reaction, but overall the economy doesnt look bleak if companies still making profits.

 

[Benny Hinn]

Shams is going to break the VP pick first

 

[Mark Antony]

"Spin that, New Yorker!"

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

Shams is going to break the VP pick first

Shams and woj the only real news we got left

 

[aepps20]

People should not start panicking yet.

And I think unless there is a large tick up inflation, the Fed cuts rates next month

I think my wire will hit Ninja’s account next month as well. I’m not sure how to wire funds with Bass but I tried.

 

[essential1]

Guy protected his tweets.

 

[BranchLifestyle]

psychopath behaviour

 

[kdawg]

I think we need to cut RFK some slack - that was ages ago. Who among us hasn’t been pressured into a stupid prank by their buddies when they were in their

[checks notes]…

Spoiler

60s?

 

[wavycrocket]

Damn Cheryl …..that’s what you like huh